Meta:Babel/Archives/2011-12

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Meta policy and local Wikimedia project image policy

Hello!

I understand some Wikis can, say, choose not to display certain religious images (I.E. Arabic Wikipedia does not show images of Mohammed) - So from my understanding, for cultural reasons certain language edition Wikis can choose not to display certain images.

Somebody on the Acehnese Wikipedia proposed the following:

  • "We do not display images that violate Islamic law that is awrah.

What we consider awrah is based on Shafi'i mazhab, that is all parts of body except face and palm (women) and between navel and knee (man)."

Aceh is a region of Indonesia which has religiously conservative people.

As I noted on ace:Wikipedia:Pool on Sharia Law in Acehnese Wikipedia we can't declare that a wiki is "under sharia law" - But from my understanding I think it can say "we do not want images of what Acehnese consider to be nudity/lack of dress"

Under WMF policies, is the Acehnese Wikipedia allowed to implement this? If not, what is it allowed to do? It doesn't sound like it technically violates any of the pillars, but I'm willing to hear what other people think :) WhisperToMe 05:34, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Provided there is consensus (meaning in this case probably an overwhelming majority) that's okay (until and unless some of those guys start going on rampage outside Acehnese wikipedia). Seb az86556 06:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good! I proposed a wording which said something like "This wiki does not allow images that are considered nudity in Acehnese culture"
I think all of us should understand that such a proposal wouldn't be feasible in a wiki with large groups of contributors from multiple cultures (Indonesian, French, English, Arabic) so there wouldn't be a good reason for anyone to go "on rampage outside Acehnese wikipedia"
WhisperToMe 19:17, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I remember the guy who went around deleting Mohammed-images from other wikipedias... that came from Aceh... Seb az86556 00:22, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah - Anyway, hopefully hopefully the Aceh editors will understand the point I made above. WhisperToMe 01:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
ace:Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe/Draft proposed draft for local ACE policy
WhisperToMe 02:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't think you should be involved so much; let them do this on their own, else they'll always feel colonized. Seb az86556 03:59, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Okay - In any case, SGA seems like he's fine with having what I proposed. WhisperToMe 14:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Meta has a bad HTTPS setup?

When I use https://en.wikipedia.org in Chrome the padlock lights up green (№ 2 in this table), but on https://meta.wikimedia.org it has a red X (№ 4). The message is:

'Your connection to meta.wikimedia.org is encrypted with a 256-bit encryption. However, this page includes other resources which are not secure. These resources can be viewed by others while in transit, and can be modified by an attacker to change the behavior of the page.

'This connection uses TSL 1.0.

'The connection is encrypted using AES_256_CBC, with SHA1 for message authentication and RSA as the key exchange mechanism.

'The connection is compressed with DEFLATE.'

Should I be worried? It Is Me Here t / c 15:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

No, not worried, just annoyed. This is probably some badly written banner, do you always have the same error? Nemo 15:33, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
It looks like it does change. When I initially browsed to meta just now (and was logged out) it was green, then it turned red upon logging in, but stayed red when I logged out again and then logged in once more. It Is Me Here t / c 13:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
There were some scripts or gadgets transcluding scripts from user space which were still using hardcoded http links; I've briefly tested all gadgets and they should all be fixed now. Did the problem disappear (clear you cache first)? Nemo 16:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Looks good ATM, although I did see the yellow triangle (№ 3) at Commons the other day – although all is green there at the moment, too. It Is Me Here t / c 15:20, 16 December 2011 (UTC)