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Tagalog is the largest language in the Philippines (24 million native speakers), and as Filipino, is the national language of the Philippines. As the old proposal was closed in a "supposed" merger of the Wikinews request process into this process, I guess I should refile this proposal here.
While there is a substantial Tagalog-language press in the Philippines, there is a perceived "lack" of credible news in Tagalog. A substantial majority of Tagalog-language newspapers are entertainment-oriented tabloids with some credible news content, and there is no more Tagalog broadsheet. I think Wikinews can fill that gap, even if it is a primarily online news source.
[edit] Arguments in favour
- If the situation is as described by the proposer, this might be one of the rare cases, where Wikinews really has a chance to make a difference. --Johannes Rohr 14:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Per nom and Johannes Rohr. And I would add free content is not so popular idea in Asia yet: Wikinews, news under free licence might make a difference. --Aphaia 16:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think this project will run. --Ooswesthoesbes 12:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Create this online news source in Tagalog, when there are not a lot now (or not enough for a large overview, in Tagalog language, of World and local news), seems to be interesting, even if it is a primarily online news source, as written by proposer. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- I do not think it would be the most active wikinews but there is enough people who speak Tagalog for this project to make it.--James, La gloria è a dio 23:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Support I also think this project will run.--Absar 10:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Support For the simple reason that there are tens of millions of Filipinos speaking this language and millions of those are active on the net and potential Wikinewsies. To add to that there are about 24 million native speakers and more than 60 million second language speakers. Although even I believe that it won't be as popular as the Tagalog Wikipedia, I still believe that it will be useful in flourishing free and open knowledge to Filipino speakers and be a helping hand to Wikipedia. -- Felipe Aira 12:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Support. World news can be appreciated better in the Philippines through Tagalog rather in English. Starczamora 01:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] General discussion
- FYI Localisation is a precondition to final approval. Given that only 39.31% of the most important messages have been localised at this time, it falls short from what is expected of second projects for a language. Expected is localisation for all MediaWiki messages and all the extensions used in the WMF. GerardM 12:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sadly, most localization before was performed on the Tagalog Wikipedia and not BetaWiki. I'm spearheading efforts to unify the translations used on the Tagalog Wikipedia and Wiktionary in order to make a unified standard translation, as these have two different sets of translated messages. --Sky Harbor 00:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Localisations will be copied into Betawiki on request. Once this is done, there are likely to be many messages that have to be generalised so that they are usable in MediaWiki (project specific information has to be removed).
- Currently 24.84% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.37% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
