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[edit] Alabama Wikipedia

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Proposal summary
Language details:
Alabama (Albaamo innaaɬiilka, akz ISO 639-3)
Users interested in forming an editing community:
Add N beside users that are native speakers, and P beside the original proposers' names.
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Alabama is a Native American language, spoken by the Alabama-Coushatta tribe of Texas. It is a Muskogean language, and is believed to have been related to the Muklasa and Tuskegee languages, which are no longer extant. Alabama is closely related to Koasati and distantly to Hitchiti, Chickasaw and Choctaw. Also known as Alibamu. Though there are only 100 monolingual natives, there are many schools teaching it. I can't give approxamate number, but it are least 2,000 learning people.

--Ulohnanne 14:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

  • Betawiki: ~250/500, 1 translator, source: [1]
  • Incubator: ~2600 pages, ~3100 edits, 2-3 editors, source: [2]

[edit] Arguments in favour

  • I am in favor because it can not only help to preserve the language, but it can also be usefull for people studying the language and people with only knowledge of Alabama and little knowledge of other linguamatica.

--Ulohnanne 14:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Though the number of natives might be a little at the low side, an interested user has already started some pages and has translated about one-fifth of the most used messages. I'm in favour of this project. Also, the page on Alabama on en.wiki is rather small. This project can give us a better view of the language. --OosWesThoesBes 05:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Support: An expert speaker of Alabama is willing to contribute to this project in the long-term, hence this project has the potential to flourish like the other Native American language Wikipedia editions such as Cherokee, Seri, Nahuatl, and Guarani etc. Therefore the Alabama language ought to be given the opportunity and priviledge to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 21:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Support! - El tiu Cancho 12:27, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Arguments against

  • Nowadays, my experience concerning wikipedias in native northamerican languages is very bad: no active projects, no active community, no interest. Alabama language has only a few of potential speakers and, as the language is not teached, young people don't know it. However, I will change my oppinion if there is an higher number of people interested in contribute to this project. --Norrin strange 07:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
    I don't know if here people normally refute that one has said? I will, however. Where did you get the information of not teached? The language is taught at some schools and many parents still give the language to their children. I think Alabama Wikipedia will then be the first successful wikipedia of all wikipedias.
    --Ulohnanne 15:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • incubator:Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/akz doesn't look particulary inspiring. Also, currently there is only one user willing to contribute, which is not even remotely enough. 3-4 is the very minimum, and even it does not guarantee that the project will develop, as people leave sometimes. MaxSem(Han shot first!) 07:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
    The project now is three day old. You can't expect it then to be having 100 pages already! Also this is for number of users.
    --Ulohnanne 15:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
    But there are also projects which first were inactive and later on grew like a tree, that can't be denied either. --OosWesThoesBes 17:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • The request is eligible, the fact that other North American Wikipedias are effectively dead, does not have any impact on our wish to support the people who support their language by creating free resources. Thanks, GerardM 07:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other discussion

I hope we can have the incubator checked by an expert in this language before it is formally approved. Although I don't have any personal expertise in the language, I find it very suspicious that the writers' English doesn't seem to be too good - almost any speaker of this language will have very good English proficiency. --149.169.85.117 22:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Localisation update

  • Currently 59.46% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 11:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 50.85% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. When you add to the localisations, you are likely to see them the next day at the Incubator. Thanks, GerardM