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verification |
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Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).
The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.
- Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
- Obtain an ISO 639 code
- Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
- Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
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- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
| What |
Value |
Example / Explanation |
| Proposal |
| Language code |
simple-fr (SIL, Ethnologue) |
A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
| Language name |
French Simple |
Language name in English |
| Language name |
French Simple |
Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
| Community |
You can optionally list your user name if you're a contributor to the wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language. |
| Links |
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Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents. |
| Site URL |
simple-fr.wikipedia.org |
langcode.wikiproject.org |
| Settings |
| Project name |
Wikipedia |
"Wikipedia" in your language |
| Project namespace |
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usually the same as the project name |
| Project talk namespace |
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"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) |
| Enable uploads |
yes |
Files should be uploaded to Commons, but if you want, you can enable local file uploading.
Notes: (1) files on Commons can be used on all wikis; (2) this setting can be changed afterwards; (3) uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons ( more info); (4) localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons |
| Optional settings |
| Project logo |
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135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions) |
| Default project timezone |
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"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
| Additional namespaces |
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For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk" |
| Additional settings |
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Anything else that should be set |
| submit bug request (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings) |
Lot's of resources for this Wiki's existence, particularily here, in Canada where the federal government encourages bilingualism in French and English. As a result, there is material, especially within the Quebec Government, New Brunswick Government and Ontario Government for people trying to learn French as a second language. I am sure this is true with other places in the world too, however I'm not an expert on that. (As a side note to others on the first request that it is a lot easier and "simplified" to learn a Romantic language such as French, than trying to learning English, due to all the rules and lack of patterns in English.)
Arguments in favour [edit]
- Support has potential. Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 21:27, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Support, per the argument made in the proposal. (I've only just come across this, by chance, but I think it's a very good idea.) A "Français simple" Wikipedia would be an excellent way of strengthening Wikipedia's multilingual approach, and of opening up content in major languages to native speakers of other languages. The Simple English Wikipedia has a double value: to provide access to users to content in English that they can more easily understand, while at the same time enabling them to improve their grasp of English. A "Français simple" Wikipedia would do the same. Bear in mind that many people learn French around the world, and that there are many countries where French is an official language without being the native language of the majority; such a project would be particularly useful in those contexts. The French Wikipedia has over 1.3 million articles, making it one of the most comprehensive encyclopediae of all time, in any language; a Simple French Wikipedia would thus have a lot of potential to grow. Aridd (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Arguments against [edit]
- No ISO code; no Wikipedia. Diego Grez return fire 15:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment:Removed for now, am in the process of obtaining one. PopMusicBuff talk 16:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Policy does not allow for more "simple" projects. --dferg ☎ talk 15:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please provide a link to your "so called rules". Otherwise dismissed as no proof, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 16:26, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- I think it is not veru usefull to have two same-language WPs, the "simple" one will simply be a useless double of the "normal" one with very few development in it (cf. "simple English" : I don't think it is very useful too... anyway it exists, let me know why...), and the best to improve one's skills in a language is to have true texts in this language. SenseiAC (talk) 14:12, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: Articles in a Simple French Wikipedia would be "true texts", but written in a way that is more easily understandable to non-native speakers. When someone is learning a language, you don't throw them straight into what is most complex. Aridd (talk) 15:58, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- English Wikipedia is very strong, very encyclopaedic, with more than 4 Million articles of excellent quality. French Wikipedia is much weaker, in quantity (1.2 Million articles) and above all in quality. French Wikipedia has not yet reached the status of a decent Encyclopaedia. Top priority should be to make French Wikipedia stronger, in particular by improving the quality of the articles. "Simple English" WP was justified by the fact that everybody on Earth speaks (or should speak) English. Who speaks French nowadays ? Who feels the urge to practice french nowadays ? Few people in fact. Euroflux (talk) 09:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Very weak-minded comment. Well, let's go to suppress the unnecessary wikipedia in french language. J'ai rarement vu autant de bêtise dans un seul commentaire... Open your mind ? Bourrichon (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Disons que si Euroflux ne s'était pas fait bloqué sur wf:fr (une forme de vengeance ?) ...94.228.187.87 15:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Other discussion [edit]
Français simplifié => "Petit nègre" ou franglais?
- fr:Français fondamental. πr2 (t • c) 19:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
