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Moksha Wikipedia[edit]

submitted verification final decision
This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

The closing committee member provided the following comment:

This wiki was created at mdf.wikipedia.org. —{admin} Pathoschild 02:32:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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Moksha language is widely spoken in Russia among more then half a million native users. It has the same value as Erzya language. And it already has a developing wiki test project. Sura 15:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Strong support. A living language. Wikipedia will coordinate Moksha speakers. --Yaroslav Blanter 19:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. About 500 000 speakers, official status in Mordovia, has ISO-639-2 code. A.M.D.F. 21:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Language used in media. Wikipedia will be of great help for all native speakers in different countries in their work and study. --Numulunj pilgae 09:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. One of the oldest Europian languages is still living. Many Mokshas live far from their native land and cannot use Moksha in their everyday life. Wikipedia will help them to find old and new friends among contributors and talk Moksha liaising with them. All people interested in Finno-Ughric studies will have opportunity to obtain more links and information in this ancient language for their work.--Moxelanus 20:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support. Moksha literary language needs support for further development in modern world. Wikipedia will help this! --Kranch14:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support. Moksha is very beautiful language. I heard about Moksha even in Canada. Mokshas want to keep it and to develop it. Wikipedia will help to unite moksha people who use the language.--Kolaksaj 12:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support--Leonst 13:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support: A Native speaker is willing to contribute to this project in the long-term, hence this project has the potential to flourish like the other Finno-Ugric Wikipedia language editions such as Finnish, Estonia and Hungarian etc. Therefore the Moksha language ought to be given the opportunity and priviledge to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 22:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Upper arguments and the most important for me is that there's a native speaker willing to contribute to this project!--Visconsus 10:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support. Moksha is a living language among other Finno-Ugric languages and is worth of own Wikipedia. - Artomo 22:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support. Got no argu against therefore two thumbs UP! Odessa
  • Strong support. My native language is the sweetest to my ear. I know Mokshan is one of the oldest languages of Europe. I believe Mokshan is a missing part of rich European culture. We, Mokshas must work to fill East European culture and history gaps. I'm sure Moksha Wikipedia will be of great value and help for both related Finno-Ugric and all Indo-European languages resources.Khazar II 18:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against[edit]

  • Funny! I've always thought that Moksha is spoken only in some distant villages by uneducated people. Where did you take these figures about the quantity of the native speakers of the language? I guess you are very much exaggerating.
    Why you think Mokshas are uneducated. I can give you a list of famous scientists, linguists, writers, composers and they were Moksha. Look here http://www.ethnologue.com/14/show_language.asp?code=MDF BUT They do not include data about Moksha abroad! We do not have exact data --Kolaksaj 12:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with Kolaksaj about the general number of Moksha speakers. I'm trying now to collect more precise data. As to Moksha population living in villages that's true. Mostly Moksha s lived in villages. That's because we do not have Moksha cities but it's not a problem I guess. Kranch 18:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I would say it was not an argument against. Should we prove Mokshans do exist? I met Moksha people in many places pretty far from Volga. Australian Mokshans do not live in villages. Mokshans live in cities though the cities are not Mokshan. So what?--Moxelanus 18:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion[edit]

Still I don't see visitors with arguments against I would like to start discussion on old sources (Paasonen works) and recent neologisms we would like to use in Moksha Wikipedia. Pls share your opinion. We must not use dialectisms here or comment them every time when using.--Numulunj pilgae 15:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can anybody tell me what happened to the Community line with all voters? It is not displayed now. --212.176.248.70 12:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the discussion about it. Sura 17:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Jalgat
I'm sure we must use correct Moksha literary language. Still Modern Moksha is having problems with terminology we must discuss every single case before using a rare, obsolete or new word/term. I'm not sure all terms used in Wp/mdf Welcome page are correct and we have to check what about "psychology", "liberal arts", "sociology" and some other names of sciences.--Moxelanus 11:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am for correct Mokshan language af 'paelaes mokshaks paelaes ruzks korxtamanksa'. For instance we must admit Iosif Cherapkin terms which are still being neglected in official sources. And let us discuss all terms in discussion pages. All suggestions are welcome as usual.Numulunj pilgae 12:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Final translation[edit]

Thank you for your perseverance; this request is ready for approval and will soon be created. Please provide the following translations so that we can create the wiki:

Variable English Explanation
$wgSitename Википедиесь The name of the website, which will appear in the title bar or when you use {{SITENAME}} on the wiki.
$wgMetaNamespace Википедиесь The name of the project namespace, which contains policies, processes, et cetera.
$wgMetaNamespaceTalk Википедиеть корхнеманза The name of the talk namespace associated with the project namespace.

—{admin} Pathoschild 18:59:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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