Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Tulu
Tulu Wikipedia [edit]
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{{New language proposal
|language = Tulu (Tulu, tcy ISO 639-3) |community = Bluestar (NP), Nharipra(N), Shriranjini(N), H.sanat(N), Arrigolewis(N),Bailbeedu(N),Vkp (N), Pvksharma(N),Namwiki(N) |links = Development Wiki Project |external = The Tulu Script, Tulu Language: Its Script and Dialects, Common Kannada, Tulu and Konkani phrases, Community Website for Tulu speaking community, [Tulu literature
}}
- Speakers: 1,949,000 [1]
- Location(s) spoken: Coastal Karnataka and parts of northern Kerala. (historically known as Tulu Nadu)
Arguments in favour [edit]
- Support: Native speakers of Tulu are willing to contribute to this project in the long-term, hence this project has the potential to flourish like the other Dravidian language Wikipedia editions such as Tamil, Malayalam etc. Therefore the Tulu language ought to be given the opportunity and priviledge to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 05:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support: As the proposer, I strongly support the creation of Tulu Wikipedia. Tulu is one of the 'Pancha Dravida Languages' (Five Dravidian Languages) having approximately 2 million native speakers. In Dakshina Kannada and Udupi districts of Karnataka(India) and northern Kasargod of Kerala(India) it is widely spoken and understood. It has a considerable amount of literary work some of which date back to the 15th century. 'Tulu Mahabharato' is a finest example. Tulu also has oral literature that has been passed from generation to generation in the form of 'paDdanas'. During the past 2 centuries more than 500 books were published in Tulu comprising of poems, novels, stories, prose works etc. The modern day Tulu literature is developing by the contributions of great authors like Kayyara Kinhanna Rai, Amruta Someshwara, B. A. Viveka Rai, Kedambadi Jattappa Rai, Venkataraja Puninchattaya, Paltadi Ramakrishna Achar, Dr. Sunitha M. Shetty, Dr. Vamana Nandavara, Sri. Balakrishna Shetty Polali and a host of writers of repute. Having Wikipedia in Tulu will definitely help in the development of the language, Tulu culture and literature --Bluestar 16:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC) .
- Support: I strongly support the creation of a Tulu Wikipedia. It will immensely help in the preservation and growth of the language, especially on the internet. Tulu Nadu is a very unique region in India with its distinct culture, and the language is an integral part of that culture. A separate Tulu Wikipedia will go a long way in enriching the language. --Nharipra 03:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support: I support the creation of Tulu Wikipedia. This will help Tulu speakers connect through internet and preserve their language and culture. Living in Karnataka, I have many of friends who are interested in contributing for this effort. --Kankanda 06:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Tulu wikipedia is needed for the language to catch up with the advancing technology. Tulu as a language has been preserved by proud Tuluvas all over the world whether it is Mumbai, Bangalore or Dubai with Tulu organizations active in these places celebrating Tulu festivals and preserving language and culture. Here is a list of points - http://www.yakshagana.com/tulu-recog.htm, on why Tulu deserves recognition from Constitution of India too. This may as well apply to creation Tulu wikipedia too. --Namwiki 08:55, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Tulu is a recognised language. It has its own Sahitya Akademi (literature Promotion Academy).. Not only is it the native tongue of 2 million ethnic Tulus , but also serves as a lingua franca among 5 linguistic groups in the districts of Udupi and South Canara. --Deepak D'Souza 05:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Wikipedia will help Tulu language add another dimension by promoting the language,spreading the message to a wider audience, thus giving its users an opportunity to picture the lives of this Coastal Indian Race.Tulu language serves as a lingua franca among 5 linguistic groups in the districts of Udupi and South Canara,certain areas in Coorg and Northern Kerala. Tulu Nadu lies along the Malabar Coast, and shares a number of geographic, culinary, and social traits with the neighbouring Konkan and Kerala regions.Get ready Wiki, we have a lot to share and learn through this culture. --Sushweta 18:15, 8 September, 2008
- Support: I strongly support the creation of Tulu Wikipedia. We Tuluvas need a medium like Wikipedia to propagate our culture and language. --Bailbeedu12:38, 5 November, 2008
- Support: I feel we are actually late to think about creating Tulu Wikipedia. Tulu is one of the oldest and finest languages. Tuluvas have a rich tradition. Tulunad is the land of holy Temples, high standard educational institutions, very good hospitals, brilliant students, birth place for many banks… and the list is endless. Above all Tulunad is the cradle for the folk arts. Yakshagana, Boothada Kola, Siri Jathre, Kambala etc are still popular in Tulunad. Since we have all these to our credit, there should be a centre point to share, post, read, edit and enable the people worldwide to know and contribute about Tulu and its riches. One should be proud to be a Tuluva and a dedicated Wikipedia will help to share the information with others and develop further… --D. Keshav, Bangalore.
- Support: This can be the first step towards the preservation of the language. What I feel is we have our own Tulu script and we have to teach and learn using it through this wikipedia. I mean we have to put tutorials in kannada to teach using the Tulu script. --"K. Ashwin kumar", Bangalore.
- Support. The language is vigorous and should really have it's own project. --Thogo (talk) 12:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support per Thogo. Definitely a language that will need its' own project soon based on its' activity. Cheers, Razorflame 06:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support: Tulu is the oldest living Indian language, which has its own script and a long literary history. Tulu should be considered by Wiki as it has a large number of speakers using its portals. --Dr.Niranjan Rai, Ubaar.
- Support: Tulu should have a Wikipedia. vote Montenegrin CRNOGORSKI PATRIOTA
- Support: Tulu should get a Wikipedia. In order to allow it to be used by all Tulu speakers, I have added a transliteration link which converts the contents into Malayalam. Therefore, all Tulu speakers should be able to read the contents. Hopefully, the Tulu script itself will be unicoded soon as well. --92.8.202.26 08:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Good community and development wiki. Vibhijain 10:26, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
I support this move to create new Wikipedia for Tulu... This will give more boost to the language
- Support --►Safir yüzüklü Ceklimesaj 12:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Arguments against [edit]
General discussion [edit]
Simple model for writing Tulu language in Kannada script for Tulu Wikipedia [edit]
I am not a native user but a scholar interested in linguistics. I just wanted to point out that Tulu language has four special vowels which are denoted in the Tulu Lexicon as ụ, ụụ, ɛ, ɛɛ, and these are distinct phonemes in the Tulu language. So anyone who wants to write Tulu has to have distinct written forms for these vowels. The Tulu Lexicon has modified some letters of the Kannada script and devised new written forms for these, but these are not supported in Unicode, and implementing them would take much time and effort on the part of people who are designing Kannada fonts and Kannada rendering engines. (For more details, see: https://sites.google.com/site/jamadagni/files/utcsubmissions/kannada-script-tulu-language-writing.pdf)
I do not think it is either advisable, practical or meaningful for the Tulu Wikipedia to be waiting till the date that all existing systems are supporting the special vowels for Tulu. Developing Tulu Wikipedia is an immediate and important need for the Tulu people. So such delays should be entirely avoided.
Therefore I wish to suggest a simple alternative which is very easily implemented in Unicode so that Tulu Wikipedia can be developed quickly in the Kannada script. My humble suggestion is to simply use two existing Unicode characters 02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE ʼ and 02EE MODIFIER LETTER DOUBLE APOSTROPHE ˮ as follows:
Independent Vowels:
ụ 0C85 ಅ + 02BC ʼ = ಅʼ
ụụ 0C85 ಅ + 02EE ˮ = ಅˮ
ɛ 0C8E ಎ + 02BC ʼ = ಎʼ
ɛɛ 0C8E ಎ + 02EE ˮ = ಎˮ
Dependent Vowels:
kụ 0C95 ಕ + 02BC ʼ = ಕʼ
kụụ 0C95 ಕ + 02EE ˮ = ಕˮ
kɛ 0C95 ಕ + 0CC6 ೆ + 02BC ʼ = ಕೆʼ
kɛɛ 0C95 ಕ + 0CC6 ೆ + 02EE ˮ = ಕೆˮ
As you can see, all existing good system fonts will be able to display the above sequences without any further glyph design or programming. As I am neither a native Tuluva nor a Tulu scholar, I am only proposing this model in all goodwill for the development of Tulu Wikipedia. If there are any faults, please forgive and make suggestions for improvement. I would be happy to hear. Thank you.
Jamadagni (talk) 03:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Localisation update [edit]
- To be able to open this Wikipedia, you must translate the interface. This can be done at Betawiki (create an account and ask for translator rights). Then translate here. SPQRobin (inc!) 10:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
- Currently 52.81% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 13:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- Currently 61.36% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 09:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)