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Requests for new languages (Wikisource Georgian)

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Contents 1 Arguments in favour 2 Arguments against 3 Other discussion

Proposal summary
Language details: Georgian (ქართული, ka ISO 639-1)
Users interested in forming an editing community: Add N beside users that are native speakers, and P beside the original proposers' names. George Mel (NP)
Relevant pages: test-wiki
External links: Wikipedia
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[edit] Arguments in favour

Georgian is the most pervasive of the South Caucasian languages, a family that also includes Svan and Megrelian and Laz . The Georgian alphabet is traditionally said to have been invented in the 5th century BC and reformed by King Parnavaz I of Iberia in 284 BC. Most modern scholarship puts its origin date at some time in the 5th century AD, when the earliest examples can be found. Generally speaking the most ancient Georgian written book is the Martyrdom of the Holy Queen Shushanik (also translated as The Passion of Saint Shushanik; Georgian: წამებაჲ წმიდისა შუშანიკისი დედოფლისაჲ, C’amebay C’midisa Shushanikisi Dedop’lisay) is the first extant piece of Georgian literature. Purported to have been written between 476 and 483, the earliest surviving manuscript dates from the 10th century. The author is Iakob Tsurtaveli (Jacob of Tsurtavi). --George Mel 14:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

P.S. see also Wikipedia - the article about Georgian literature --George Mel 14:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

• &Y Support --Zangala 17:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support--Jaba1977 17:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support --Misho 05:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support - The list of Georgian literary and other written works linked above, is not of course full. Georgia has one of the oldest and richest literature in the world. In favour I'll add, that putting full documents in a wikipedia articles became more frequent last time, like this one. That is the matter of demand for such project. Rastrelli F 07:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support--მოცარტი 12:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support - Island 12:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support – --Lika2672 13:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support – --| Narke 17:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support--ლევანი 17:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support--Tskiria 17:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support ----თეკა 19:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC),
• &Y Support--დათო_დათო 11:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
• Strong Support --თოგო ^(D) 09:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Georgian has a long tradition of literature and writing, so there is plenty of texts to digitalize.
• &Y Strong Support --94.43.112.105 14:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC) I agree with Thogo.
• &Y Support -- დათო
• &Y Support -- Sandro 13:32 10 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support -- antonio 17:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 17:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Strong Support -- ბესო 00:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Fully agree with Rastrelli F
• &Y Support -- Lukakhim 13:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Strong Support --ჭანო17:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support --Sandrosaxel 19:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Strong Support--Elo20 08:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y  -- As a very old language and with a written tradition dating back to the 5th century, Georgian has a very large collection of old texts and is thus a good candidate for its own Wikisource. Malafaya 13:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support -- Undeniably relevant language/project, and from the activity on oldwikisource, there is a thriving community that will make the project a success. Hope the langcom acts swiftly on this one...― Teak 18:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support It sounds fine to me. I will say it to LangCom. Evertype 14:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
• &Y Support Sounds like a future great source of information. Too bad the localisation of MediaWiki (72%) and MediaWiki extensions used by Wikimedia (8%) is still pretty bad. How about a translation rally on translatewiki.net and you guys will be able to rock soon in your own Wikisource!? Siebrand 23:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm there already:) (With an old account)I've even stopped editing ka-wiki:)--George Mel 05:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Arguments against

[edit] Other discussion

კი მაგრამ ეს პროექტი გიორგის დაარსებული კი არ არის, ეს პროქექტი ჩემი და ანტონიოს დაარსებულია , და ესე კულტურულად რომ ამოიღო იქიდან ჩემი სახელი ეს საძაგლობაა და არაკაცობა!!! ისტორიაში ნახეთ , თუ ძალიან გინდათ

ისიც გაიხსენე, რომ ორივემ მიატოვეთ :) ისევე როგორც ყველა სხვა შენ მიერ წამოწყებული პროექტი. ანუ სახელის ამოღება სრულად მართობულია.--George Mel 04:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

მაშინ იმასაც მოგახსენებ, რომ მე და ანტონიო ნელ–ნელა ვმუშაობდით, და სხვათაშორის არაერთი სტატია დავწერეთ ! თეკა

[1] რაღაც ძალიან ნელა, იანვრიდან არაფერი გაგიკეთებია. კმარა, პასუხს აღარ გაგცემ. --George Mel 09:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

თავის კამრებით სარკეში სილუეტს ელაპარაკე

--George Mel 10:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

All discussion and arguments provided should be translated to English, please. --თოგო ^(D) 10:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing interesting in it, that's talk of a user, who has severally been blocked in Ka-wiki for his "bad behaviour", & who's trying to become "unchangeable" in other projects. He says, that he must be NP, as it was he who had started the project & that I'm not a man (In georgian it is equal to "_bastard") I answered him, that he had left this and many other projects (Wikinews & etc.) and asked him to stop harming wiki-projects. He again answered that I'm a "very bad man":)--George Mel 10:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

P.S. as you see, my answer is a Smile :)--George Mel 10:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't tell that I wanna be NP, but it was not nice when you change it without some mention to me... Yes and it is very bad doing with your hand and do not order an innocent lamb, Хо-хо парниша.... თეკა

I hope you have some mention about him. I repeat : I'll deal with you no more, according to Don't Feed the Divas & Не кормите троллей. Finito la Comedia. --George Mel 13:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Не, ну весело... Безусловно... Но тупо!!! =)))

Просто когда людей кусают вампиры они становятся вампирами, а тебя по моему баран укусил, нет лучше осел =))) Поки-Чмоки

თეკა

--George Mel 14:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)