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Global ban discussion reformation[edit]
Hello, currently some global ban discussions have become messy quarrels among supporters and opposers.
E.g. Requests for comment/Global ban for Slowking4 (2) and Requests for comment/Global ban for PlanespotterA320 (2).
This system may need a little reformation, for example, making the discussion tidier by letting users make their comments just on their own paragraphs, like cases in English Wikipedia Arbcoms, which may also made users cooler without directly commenting each other.
I don't know where to put up a discussion for such a proposal, and is it legitimate? Lemonaka (talk) 03:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- The global ban system is not great. Stewards tend to not want to wade into these discussions (there is very little upside, as any action is almost certain to upset a group of people, and stewards typically are more behind-the-scenes types than dispute resolutioners). I hope that once the U4C is in place, more of these discussions will move out of the public pillory space and into the private committee space, where they are honestly better suited anyway. In the meantime, it would be nice to have more steward clerking and timely closing of these discussions - I can't personally on the Slowking4 one as I have commented / have opinions on the subject. I'll see what I can do about some of the other open ones. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- I believed Global ban consensus got by community, enforced by WMF Office or U4C (likely a global arbcom) is better than nowadays messy battlefields Lemonaka (talk) 02:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- The global ban system is indeed not great, but is at least there is a discussion, and is better than SRG that usually has virtually no discussion (what I mean: for non-VOA unless there are ongoing abuse from the main account - in that case we soon can have short-time global blocks, issues and abuses should either be handled locally or by formal process like global ban or in the future U4C, and stewards should not break community's self-governance. In particular, being blocked in most or all wikis should not be a reason of global locks, since in most cases the abuse is sufficiently handled by community.) The Matlin case is very similar to Slowking4 case, which is a user blocked in multiple wikis but not home wiki. So ideally, we need a formal discussion before locking the main account. GZWDer (talk) 16:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I believed Global ban consensus got by community, enforced by WMF Office or U4C (likely a global arbcom) is better than nowadays messy battlefields Lemonaka (talk) 02:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I kinda prefer it old fashioned. The better way would to have clerks format it, keeping the supports/oppose clean and moving replies to comment section or different section underneath. As long as people keep it civilized, I see no reason to prevent a good arguments. Both of those cases are not black and white, hence they had to be discussed twice. I think this practice is much better and more acceptable for wider community than to have a blind vote or having a body decide where the line that separates the conduct with misconduct exists. Also, I don't think global community bans should be enforced by WMF as mentioned above. Mostly because community is equipped with tools to enforce that, and also because I think there should be clear distinction between WMF ban and community ban. BRP ever 16:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Introducing Edit Patrol: Assisting Rollbackers on the Wikipedia Android App[edit]
The Mobile Apps team has recently released a new feature in the Android app to assist rollbackers in patrolling from their mobile device without leaving the Android app. Edit Patrol is a suggested edit that allows users with rollback rights to view the recent changes feed, with access to undo, rollback, thank, and post talk page messages.
The feature is currently available on Indonesian, French, and Spanish Wikipedia. We hope to make it available to English Wikipedia rollbackers in the coming month.
You can learn more about the feature and its development on our project page. Edit Patrol does not intend to replace existing patrolling tools, rather fill some gaps that have been highlighted in the mobile space. Prior to writing a single line of code, the team conducted interviews with patrollers and conducted a comparative review of existing patrolling tools. Throughout development, we have continued to incorporate feedback from members of the community. We prioritized collaboration with communities that have traditionally had difficulty utilizing existing tools, specifically folks using mobile devices.
After initial release, we heard requests to add access to user talk warning templates in the talk page message flow. Users are now able to search and use user talk warning templates as part of the tool. For languages that do not have user warning templates, the team reviewed messages across languages & created 10 example messages that will be preloaded into the app: you can learn more about those messages and leave feedback here.
The feature currently allows users to view the feed of recent edits for only one language wiki at a time (the primary language set in their app), but we are interested to hear if there is a preference from multi-wiki rollbackers to have the ability of patrolling multiple languages in a single feed.
Please check out this presentation with more information, and a demonstration of the feature to learn more. If you have any questions or feedback, we welcome it on the project’s discussion page, or please attend our open demonstration hours for this feature on Google Meet on the 26th of April 2024 at 18 UTC (You can determine the right time in your time zone using a time zone converter tool).
Looking forward to see you all.
--ARamadan-WMF (talk) 12:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Global ban closure[edit]
Requests for comment/Global ban for Slowking4 (2) has now been open for a month. Per Global bans (Discussion should be open for at least two weeks, but no more than one month) it is now time for it to be closed. * Pppery * it has begun 15:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)