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www.xn--spermario-q9a.com





Already Added Added \bxn--spermario-q9a\.com\n + IP globally blocked for 15 minutes to make the spambl work because of ongoing crosswiki spamadditions.

Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 14:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)




too, which I've locked.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

www.bonsaici.com





Wutsje 13:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Already Added Addedvvv 13:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)




too  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 01:08, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

dickensurl.com



URL redirector - new, not in use on Wikimedia sites as of the time of this report, reported for completeness. Gavia immer 18:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Added Added  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:39, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

iltwistacapri.blogspot.com

Spammed on en and es.wikipedia in spite of warnings on both.









--A. B. (talk) 18:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Added Added --A. B. (talk) 19:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

sabiometria.net

en and es.wikipedia:





--A. B. (talk) 18:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think 3 link additions qualifies as widespread unmanageable spam. Not done Not done — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


howtofriends.com

Slow-moving spam on en., de., es., and ja.wikipedia over a 2 year period:

Domains:







tiny-url.org is a URL redirect domain
redirects to:


geocities.com/nozomsite was previously blacklisted




Google AdSense IDs: 9291277970845941, 8773563949971611

Accounts:

















































References:

--A. B. (talk) 19:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added --A. B. (talk) 20:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

guide-to-slovenia.com

Sites spammed




Spammers




References

--A. B. (talk) 21:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added --A. B. (talk) 21:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

rasora.com



Spammers


See WikiProject Spam item. MER-C 12:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added (looks like a slew of IPs involved too)  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Amazon tag links

Please adjust the line for Amazon affiliates which is currently:

  • \bamazon\.com\/.*&tag=
  • to change it to:
  • \bamazon\.com\/.*(\?|&)tag=

This is to prevent tags being added as the first parameter in the querystring (see[1]). Thanks. zzuuzz (talk) 20:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added
\bamazon\.com.*(?:\?|&)tag=
 — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

inugg.co.uk





Already added the domain and locked the account.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 03:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, added it to the log.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

2 more Universe Daily domains

Long-standing problem. Here are two new domains:





For more background, see:

--A. B. (talk) 05:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added --A. B. (talk) 05:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

40 more Universe Daily domains

Long-standing croos-wiki problem. Here are 40 new domains:

















































































For more background, see:

--A. B. (talk) 15:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added --A. B. (talk) 15:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

bascarsija.info







Just for the record: Ongoing x-wiki spamming, link already Added Added and IP globally blocked by Drini. Best regards, —Dferg (talk) 15:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

cescfabregas.3dn.ru

















 — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 13:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Added AddedDferg (talk) 15:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

zobyhost.com











 — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 13:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Added AddedDferg (talk) 16:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

30 more Universe Daily domains

Prolific, long-time, cross-wiki spammer.

Today's batch from [2]:





























































Primary long-term tracking and discussion pages for this domain-owner:

Meta discussions and records:

  1. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-10#Universe Daily
  2. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-10#Universe Daily again
  3. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-10#lochnessmonster.name, jerrypournelle.org, monsternews.org, and minotaur.name
  4. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-10#bindiirwin.info, richardfinnila.com
  5. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-10#janogibson.com
  6. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-10#*irwin.com (removal request)
  7. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-11#Universe Daily back again
  8. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-12#Universe Daily updates for November
  9. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-01#parishiltontoday.com
  10. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-08#More Universe Daily (Wayne Smith) spam
  11. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-11#Universe Daily (Wayne Smith) active again at en:
  12. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-11#another Wayne Smith Universe Daily Linkspam
  13. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-11#More Linkspam from Wayne Smith AKA Universe Daily
  14. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2008-05#Universe Daily
  15. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2008-10#Universe Daily
  16. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2009-03#More Universe Daily links
  17. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2009-03#Additional Universe Daily information
  18. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2009-05#2 more Universe Daily domains
  19. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2009-05#40 more Universe Daily domains
  20. Spam blacklist/Log/Nakon
  21. User:COIBot/XWiki/jimmywales.info

Previous en.wikipedia discussions:

  1. en:Talk:Robert Zubrin#External Links (06-2006)
  2. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive43#Inappropriate username? (06-2006)
  3. en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2006 Archive Sep#A linkspammer confession
  4. en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Universe Today (second nomination)
  5. en:Wikipedia:Requests for investigation/Archives/2006/06
  6. en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics/Archive 8#Massive linking campaign (07-2006)
  7. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive125#300+ hate mail messages from User:203.10.59.63 (07-2006)
  8. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive130#Universe Daily/Today/Bad Astronomy spam again (08-2006)
  9. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive56#Shutting down Universe Daily for good. (09-2006)
  10. en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bindi Irwin (09-2006)
  11. en:Talk:Bindi Irwin/archive1#LINKSPAMMER active on this page (09-2006)
    • Interesting comment from the Universe Today spammer about his tactics
  12. en:Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 23#Steve Irwin (09-2006)
  13. en:Talk:Bindi Irwin/archive1#bindiirwin.com heads-up (10-2006)
  14. en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2006 Archive Oct#bindiirwin.com heads-up
  15. en:Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 24#Article on Wayne Smith and bindiirwin dot com (10-2006)
  16. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive60#Spam site / Wikipedia impersonator (10-2006)
  17. en:Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 24#Wayne Smith (aka. Universe Daily) is back (11-2006)
  18. en:MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/November 2007#Linkspam from vandal Wayne Smith AKA Universe Daily
  19. en:Talk:Doctor Who/Archive 10#Spinoffs (02-2008)
  20. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive143#Question re: URL structure (06-2008)
  21. en:MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/October 2008#badastronomy.com
  22. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive186#Reminder: our ongoing Universe Daily spam problem (03-2009)
  23. en:Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 33#Reminder: our ongoing Universe Daily spam problem (03-2009)
  24. en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive189#User:124.185.153.3/Wayne Smith (04-2009)
  25. en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Queensland#John Paul Langbroek (04-2009)
  26. en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics/Archive 4#John Paul Langbroek (04-2009)

Media references:

At least 30 projects are known to have been spammed:

  • cy, de, en, eo, es, fi, fr, id, it, la, nl, no, pl, pl, pt, pt, pt, ru, ru, scn, sv, tr, vi, vo, zh, commons, meta, n:en, q:en, wikt:en

--A. B. (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added --A. B. (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Redirect sites





For the archive. Redirect sites, addition Doing In progress...Dferg (talk) 09:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Added AddedDferg (talk) 09:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

chopper-apparel.de





Added Added already  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

rickrolled

See en:Rickrolling

There is a next xwiki catch, User:COIBot/XWiki/rickrolled.fr. Background:







And now



The purpose of rickrolling is a form of abuse, and I think we will see ongoing attempts on this. What about blacklisting '\brickroll(ed|ing)\.' or something similar? The redirect will be caught in another way, but what is next? Rickroll.co.uk, rickrolled.it, rickrolling.co.jp, rickroll.to ... ?? --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 15:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Done Done. The following has been added and logged:
  • \brickroll
  • \bliturl\.net\b
Dferg (talk) 15:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
My mistake, liturl was wrong, it was litlurl.net, which is already blacklisted. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 16:21, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

lavalit.com



Spammed on

Lavalit.com appears to be some sort of homebrewed game download website. Spamming of this website became prevalent on w:en, but also appeared on w:it and w:es (the article is currently up for speedy deletion at w:es at my request). This does not appear to have any relevance or use on the Wikimedia projects.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 10:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Doing In progress...Dferg (talk) 21:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello. At this moment I do not think we need to blacklist the link. It's mainly enwiki problem so I suggest you to request blacklisting on enwiki. Notwhisthstanding, we will be monitoring closely lavalit.com with the bots and if it becomes an issue, we will add it to the blacklist. Sorry but this request is, at this moment,Declined declinedDferg (talk) 18:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

syntext.com





Observed via cvn-sw. Added Added already, but not logged.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Logged. —Dferg (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


too; Added Added  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

xvideos.com























Seems encyclop. irrelevant for me. —Dferg (talk) 21:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Also found:






































Dferg (talk) 21:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added, obviously.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

thatsnotsexy.com



























212.24.91.66 was spamming today; the other users and IPs linked in the past (from COIBot). I've placed a global block on today's IP.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 19:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Added Added - sin comentarios...Dferg (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed removals

Symbol comment vote.svg This section is for archiving proposals that a website be unlisted.

aceshowbiz.com



See discussion at this wikipedia page. - Peregrine Fisher 20:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Also, could you post a note on my wikipedia talk page when you comment? I don' check meta very often. - Peregrine Fisher 20:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Due to past problems with excessive linking to this domain, I do not believe this request should be fulfilled. However, if you believe that links to this domain will enhance the content, you can request whitelisting of specific URLs for specific uses on w:en:MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:35, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. We should add this one to /recurring requests as well, I would think. JzG 19:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

wikipedia.un.mythe.over-blog.com



This is a critical blog, often excessive if not worse, against Wikipedia, mainly Wikipedia in French. There was a discussion yesterday at our "Village Pump" fr:Wikipédia:Le_Bistro/10_avril_2009#Blocage_automatique_des_pourriels_de_la_liste_noire where appeared an obvious majority approving the block of this site, with a few dissident voices, some from experienced Wikipedians.

This site has been blacklisted in 2007 by David Monniaux with comment "site spams tons of articles, policy and discussion pages with links to this blog" [3] ; as far as I remember this blacklisting has not been discussed here, though I discovered there was a discussion in 2007 on our sysop noticeboard : [4] (see section "Pages protégées pour pourriel"), again with a majority strongly in favour of blacklisting and with significant discordant

Personally, I don't think there are really serious spamming problems, or the spamming problems in 2007 were local in time and linked to disruptive editors and did only marginally connect to the "Main" namespace. As can be seen for instance by the explanation given by Kropotkine_113 on our Village Pump, some other motives seem to have been implicit in this blacklisting ("parce qu'il diffame, insulte et traîne dans la boue des contributeurs, détourne des propos, manipule l'historique de ses commentaires pour faire régner la confusion").

Note that this site is obviously useless on "Main" namespace but could obviously be used on Talk pages, and is quite often indeed quoted on Talk pages by various Wikipedians who are forced by this blacklisting to give a non-clickable link (a few random examples here or there).

I should add that, again very personally, I think this blacklisting is unproductive : it does not forbid good faith editors to give a (non-clickable) link to this site on a Talk page when they find it useful, but it gives a bad image of "censorship". Since this censorship is unefficient the cool think to do would be to bring it to an end.

For all these reasons, I would appreciate an independant review of David Monniaux's decision by some Meta admin, ideally somebody reading French but not active on :fr Wikipedia.Touriste 20:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

A few additional facts which can help to make your decision :

  • I have no relation to the blog whose delisting I query (except as a reader), and am (hopefully) a "trusted, high-volume editor" on :fr (sysop with several thousand edits) as suggested by the delisting rules ;
  • I don't really assert that removing the blacklisting would be "in support of our projects" but rather than keeping it is counter-productive ;
  • I took more time today to try to find out how often there had been spamming sprees towards wikipedia.un.mythe. I found only one, four months before blacklisting, indeed limited both in size and in time : [5] ;
  • I checked throughout David.Monniaux contributions here and on fr and the state of his Talk pages (here and on :fr) before the date of blacklisting (May 30th 2007) to see if the question had been subject to debate. It does not seem to have been ; I simply noticed that roughly at the same time when he added wikipedia.un.mythe to the blacklist, DM erased a substantial list of external links in the Wikipedia namespace of :fr towards critical sites, including one to wikipedia.un.mythe : [6] ;
My first take (though looking at this only briefly) is that the entry should be moved to frwiki's blacklist as there seems to be no concern about spamming elsewhere. It'd be up to the frwiki community to discuss whether to leave it blacklisted or not.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:35, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems OK to me, a debate in French with editors knowing exactly what this blog is would be more reasonable - local blacklists did not exist when DM blacklisted this blog here, and no difficulty has been noticed there. If I get a green light here, I'll add it into local :fr blacklist, inform you that it is done and you'll remove it there ; debate will keep on on :fr you shall not have to bother reading hundreds of pages in French. Touriste 08:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good - just let us know when it's been added to frwiki & it'll be removed here.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
That's done [7], you can remove it from this meta-page now. Thanks ! Touriste 18:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Removed Removed  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Can't say I agree with this. Quoting this in talk pages is about as useful as quoting Wikipedia Watch or trash-sites like that.
Also, from what I saw on the french discussion, almost everyone is against a de-blacklisting of any kind. It's far from "a few dissident voices".
And to finish, Wikipedia isn't the only french project : at least, the french wikibooks/wikiversity/wiktionary have to be protected too.
DarkoNeko 07:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Questions:
  1. Does this site attack individual editors
  2. Is this site a forum with postings from a number of different contributors or is it the project of one or two editors?
  3. What is the history of this site regarding breaching Wikipedia editors' privacy through "outing" (revealing editors' off-line, real world identities)? If this is a forum with multiple contributors and a Wikipedia editor is "outed", do the sysops quickly delete the post?
  4. I suggest checking other French projects (wiktionary, etc.) for links to this site. Also, any French-related languages (Occitan, etc.)
--A. B. (talk) 13:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  1. yes. Not mainly in the posts themselves but in the comments (posted by banned trolls and the maintener faking another identity).
  2. It's a blog, but the "comments" system could fit your description of a forum (because of point 1).
  3. I'll have to ask more ifnormed people on that one (they'll complete below). Also, apart from the maintener, the only recourse is to write mails to over-blog's abuse address, not too successfully.
Darkoneko 17:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
My own answers:
  1. Yes, many times.
  2. It's a blog hosting only attacks against Wikipedia, in the posts and, many times, in the comments, stinking as a garbage.
  3. See above.
  4. Ask the other French projects has no sense. Alithia, "webmaster" of this blog, never speaks about anything else than Wikipedia (always ti say nonsense) and other French Wikimedia projects never talk about her blog. Also, Occitan (spoken by a very little minority in France) is not a "French-related language" (a huge majority of French speakers do not understand Occitan), no more than, for exeample, Catalan or Asturian (Roman languages, relatively close to Occitan), spoken in Spain.
I request the quick return of this address \bwikipedia\.un\.mythe\.over-blog\.com in the blacklist. The request of Touriste cannot be considered as reflecting the French users' wish. And almost no one, at the moment, agreed with his proposition, on wp-FR, to remove any prohibition about this site. See: fr:Discussion MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist#Rapatriement en local du blog d'Alithia. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Contributors who did not (each one with his own commentary) really agree, on wp-FR, with Touriste proposition: Dionysostom (not sysop), Hégésippe, Ice Scream (Like tears in rain), Ludo29, Chandres (not sysop), Kropotkine 113, Ceedjee (not sysop), Dereckson, Xic667, Gdgourou, Diti, Sardur and Lgd).

Note I've re-added this pending further discussion in light of Darkoneko's statements above. Thanks  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Though my opinion on the right thing to do has not changed during this debate, for the sake of sanity I withdraw my request. No objection any longer to the permanent listing of this blog here (or more exactly, I keep them for myself). Touriste 18:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

  • It sounds as if the reason David added it still applies now - i.e. that without blacklisting there will be abuse which is hard to control. I don't see any good reason for removing it, we have no need of attack blogs as sources. JzG 19:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, this is Not done Not done, per concerns raised above.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

www.yoyita.com/gueguense.htm



It's a description of the nicaraguan play "el Güegüense", that dates from pre-Columbian times, and has a translation of the play from the original náhuatl to spanish. It's used in the spanish Wikipedia in Literatura nicaragüense and el Güegüense. Comu nacho 19:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Given the domain was added after spamming, what is the problem with whitelisting?  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 21:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Declined DeclinedDferg (talk) 19:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

kinbacon.org

KinbaCon is the first European Convention dedicated exclusively to the Japanese art of erotic bondage. There are similar Conventions such ShibariCon and BoundCon, but their sites are not blacklisted. This year KinbaCon will be at the first time, in Lviv (Ukraine), on 23-24 May. Official KinbaCon website fully translated into 7(!) different languages (English, German, French, Spanish, Polish, Russian, Ukrainian), that more visitors can read the info about Convention and can visit it. That's why BooBSD tried to add KinbaCon webpage to Wikipedia articles about japanese bondage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_bondage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_(BDSM)) also on 7 different languages and for what official website was blacklisted as spam (for adding the same link to the different translations). But he added link to the official KinbaCon website only in the languages, in which KinbaCon website is translated. Thx for understanding.OpenBDSM 21:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Here's the report:
Here are the relevant content and editing standards from the English Wikipedia; other Wikipedias have similar standards:
If it seems like I'm citing a lot of rules, it's because BooBSD broke a bunch. Perhaps he wasn't aware of what they were at first, but then he received 3 warnings which he chose to ignore. These warnings had links to all the relevant rules on the Russian Wikipedia:
Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their encyclopaedic value in support of our encyclopaedia pages. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your links may well be removed.
Unlike Wikipedia, DMOZ is a web directory specifically designed to categorize and list all Internet sites; if you've not already gotten your sites listed there, I encourage you to do so -- it's a more appropriate venue for your links than our wikis. Their web address: http://www.dmoz.org/.
Declined Declined--A. B. (talk) 03:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

silvers.servehttp.com