Talk:Wikimania05/Presentation-JW1

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Edit history from English Wikibooks[edit]

  • 19:01, 18 October 2005 Sj m
  • 13:07, 28 September 2005 JonathanWerrett (Link to video was incorrect)
  • 12:59, 27 September 2005 Zenogantner (put abstract into template)
  • 13:05, 20 August 2005 JakobVoss (+video, +slides)
  • 21:48, 12 August 2005 JakobVoss m (presentation up)
  • 10:19, 6 August 2005 62.206.65.6
  • 12:53, 2 August 2005 Jdforrester (Update licence.)
  • 10:50, 2 August 2005 Fuzheado (templateize)
  • 16:40, 26 July 2005 65.106.67.2 (→No title yet)
  • 05:37, 21 July 2005 Angela m
  • 02:45, 4 July 2005 Lynx7725 (rv linkspam by 218.80.68.136)
  • 02:42, 4 July 2005 218.80.68.136 (→No title yet)
  • 01:20, 4 July 2005 JakobVoss m
  • 06:30, 30 June 2005 JakobVoss m (Sentence from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo_Wales ;-))
  • 06:22, 30 June 2005 JakobVoss (new page)

Discussion history from en.wikibooks: 

   * (cur) (last)  09:54, 29 August 2005 Stevietheman (→More things to free - Added another how-to site, although it's not a wiki)
   * (cur) (last) 03:20, 19 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge - added one example)
   * (cur) (last) 16:42, 15 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge - (elaborated text))
   * (cur) (last) 04:17, 15 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge)
   * (cur) (last) 04:17, 15 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge)
   * (cur) (last) 04:16, 15 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge - +* Important foreword: this is meant to be a serious contribution, because the possibility for indexing and searching the trivial prior art is the)
   * (cur) (last) 14:03, 12 August 2005 Stevietheman (→More things to free)
   * (cur) (last) 14:00, 12 August 2005 Stevietheman m (→More things to free)
   * (cur) (last) 13:52, 12 August 2005 Stevietheman (More things to free)
   * (cur) (last) 04:43, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free the (elements of) language: words - free elements of speech and languages: the words)
   * (cur) (last) 04:26, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free the (elements of) language: words)
   * (cur) (last) 04:26, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free the (elements of) language: words)
   * (cur) (last) 04:26, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free the (elements of) language: words)
   * (cur) (last) 04:25, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge)
   * (cur) (last) 04:24, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge - +http://www.centerforthepublicdomain.org/)
   * (cur) (last) 04:23, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (+example link to TEKPAD (tradtional ecological knowledge Prior Art Database))
   * (cur) (last) 03:42, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge)
   * (cur) (last) 03:40, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:39, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:39, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (+license cc-by-sa)
   * (cur) (last) 03:34, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:33, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (→free trivial things and traditional knowledge)
   * (cur) (last) 03:32, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:32, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:32, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (cosmetic)
   * (cur) (last) 03:31, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut m (cosmetic)
   * (cur) (last) 03:30, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:29, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut
   * (cur) (last) 03:24, 9 August 2005 Wikinaut (added two more freelets to Jimbo's list: free the elements of languages: words ; free traditional knowledge and even trivial things (purpose: to form searchable and provable prior art))

Discussion from Wikibooks[edit]

Jimbo:

perhaps you want to add two issues to your list of freelets (the word freelet ©User:Wikinaut licence: cc-by-sa)

free the elements of speech and languages: the words[edit]

so that words and even stupid and trivial names and things like

  • blog
  • memory
  • WM plus a year number such as in WM 2006
  • Kinder.* (law suits filed by a food company against use of word "Kinder"; .* being a regular expression)
  • .*ix (law suits filed by a publisher against companies and websites; .* being a regular expression)

are free to use for mankind without any risk of infringements. This shall not be seen as overlapping with trademark issue, but trivial words shall never be issue of law suits.

Remark: how to circumvent the use of trademarked words:

contributed by --Wikinaut 10:29, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

free trivial things and traditional knowledge[edit]

  • Important foreword: this is meant to be a serious contribution. The freelet shall foster the ability to index, search and retrieve even trivial prior art: also the trivial prior art and traditional knowledge need to become digitally stored, somewhere, somehow.

Trivial things appear to be free but this fact is often denied by certain people claiming rights on obvious stuff (things, methods...), as long as no quick and unambiguous proof of evidence for this and that can be presented. The purpose of noting even trivial things in a list of freelets is to form digitally searchable and retrievable prior art, which can be proved.

Examples:
  • how-to's: how to check eggs, whether there are boiled, how to empty a bottle very quickly ...
  • software and business methods (one-click, two-click..... progress bar and so on: give anyone a chance to publish and place his and her simple ideas into public domain in order to create prior art.
  • contributed by --Wikinaut 10:29, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
  • amended by --Wikinaut 23:42, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

More things to free[edit]

I wholeheartedly agree with Wikinaut's ideas for things to free, especially how-to's and software/business methods. I would add these six:

  • Laws, regulations, case law, etc. from all levels of governments around the world, including historicities (bill drafting, politics behind it, etc.) and old laws/regs/etc. no longer in force. Place the law in the hands of the people, as after all, we paid for it!
  • Prices — We should have access to an always current reference to the price of all goods (and within reason, services) available from any source, whether a bricks-and-mortar store or a website. Adam Smith might have drooled over this possibility. I'm sure the implementation would be too gargantuan to attempt at this time, but I'm willing to bet doing this would be feasible within the next 5 to 10 years.
  • Community news gathering — Aren't we all tired of the local "murder, weather and sports" brigades passing themselves off as "news"? Wikinews seems to be more news regurgitation on a global scale rather than news gathering on a local scale. I'm far more concerned about community news and who controls it.
  • Voting guides — It's high-time the people took control of putting together voter guide information for the electorate to consume before elections.
  • Government information — The people deserve to have access to all information created by the governments we pay for, with narrow exceptions for content related to national security.
  • Accounting records of public corporations, mainly for the sake of boards and shareholders, but since these are entities granted existence by the public, doesn't the public deserve to see the books too?

As for how-to's, there are four significant efforts going on that I know of:

And I have a little proposal called the WikiLifeGuide, the How to Do Everything in Your Life Guide.

contributed by Stevietheman 20:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

No Such Thing as a Free Lunch[edit]

There is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone somewhere is paying for it with their time, their money and their life.

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