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[edit] Concerns

I don't want to ignore your concerns. In the same time, I feel pretty awkward about it since it's more like a brief fight between two individuals who like each other a lot than anything else, as I told Flcelloguy. Maybe you could just ask Anthere, if you're seriously concerned. You'll see that it wasn't big deal really :) Actually Ant was like one of the first to vote for me ... villy ♦✎ 20:45, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, especially one passage seemed agressive, and suggested a long during fight. I have little knowledge of your both backgrounds, so I couldn't know if this fight was an examption, or happened all the time on the French wiki :S But as I understand from you it was an exemption, and therefor it's okey to me. (If I could read better and especially faster French I would research it better myself, but I'm unfortunately not in that position.) Thank you for your fast respond. Effeietsanders 20:55, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Effeietsanders, i can tell you Ant & Villy don't fight on wp:fr . Sometimes they haven't the same POV, but we never saw blood ;D Alvaro 22:31, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, okey, that's good :) Blood is a nasty thing to clean ;) Effeietsanders 22:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 ;D Alvaro 23:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Material for Wikisource

Regarding our conversation in Boston, it was Johanna Beijerinck whose diary is known for it's description of the events surrounding w:nl:Krakatau's eruption of 1883. I believe I heard her account was read in the 19th century. Whether parts of her diary were published in periodicals or it was published as a complete book, I do not know. I think this is the sort of unique primary source material that could really benefit Wikisource. This is not the kind of thing that many other digital libaries are putting online. I really enjoyed meeting you this past week and I hope your trip home was enjoyable.--BirgitteSB 17:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your question

I wanted to let you know that I have responded to your post on User_Talk:Jon_Cates. Thank you. --Jon Cates 05:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London Wikimania 2007 bid picture

't spijt me - I was looking through the full list of language links and carefully making sure I'd got one of each spelling (quite a few are the same in multiple languages). Mea Culpa! I feel especially bad as I have been coming to the Netherlands since I was 9 and have had many friends there. Corrected now ;-) --Alison Wheeler 22:50, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Hehehehe, don't worry :) Thanks for fixing. Hope to see you sometime when you're in the low countries ;-) Effeietsanders 11:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WMFrance update

Goeiemorgen, Lodewijk,

I have updated the contact field, and asked our secretary about the correct number. Bedankt :)

Greetz! guillom 09:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Halloween!

Hope you have the best!

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Bastique 04:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elections

Hello, thank you for informing me about my mistake in steward elections. I am giong to correct it. Bests, --10caart 09:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TR status

Can you please fix the NL translation status? It is apparently contradict of both their real status of publification on the foundation website and their request page status data, and I am very confused. See also Translation requests/how to use. Thanks. --Aphaia 14:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Aphaia, I guess you mean the About Wikimedia. Yes, I misunderstood that, sorry, but the system is quite complicated and confusing, i hope you can forgive me :) It still has to be published, but the translation is completed, and it is also checked by several people.
Btw, it would be nice if the translation process would become easier... now there are two different places where the status has to be notified, and the number of templates is quite confusing. I found mostly the way now, although I have not found yet the exact fdifference between copyediting and proofreading. The helppages are not really helpfull either... :S I guess i have a vague idea of what it means by now, but to say it is fully clear now... no. Effeietsanders 14:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vote

There's a little bar on the top right where I list other projects I'm a member of. It's a bit hard to see with the sitenotice, but it's usually visible. --Rory096 20:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Simple English Wikiquote

Hello. I see you have a new user page on Simple English Wikiquote. Welkom! You may want to vote on a proposal to close Simple English Wikiquote. If you want to close Simple English Wikiquote, you can vote "Support". If you want to keep the project going, you can vote "Oppose" and you can also help by contributing to the project (editing one or more pages). --Coppertwig 18:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Dank u zeer for granting me admin privileges on Simple English Wikiquote. I'll try to use them wisely and continue learning about policies. --Coppertwig 03:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sysop rights

Hello, Effeietsanders
as a result of the unanimous election held on this page, you've been granted sysop status. Please list yourself in the sysop box. Thank you, M/ 13:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Effeietsanders 13:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Checkuser

I am currently doing another checkuser rewrite, one much larger than the first. I've talked to brion on several occasions about how to move foward. It might be good to have a local db log and the .log file, the later being steward viewable. That would some the filter/speed issues with the current log for checkusers while providing a an overall log visible to all Stewards. Please leave any suggestions here. Thanks. Voice-of-All 22:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi, i tried again to explain my request here. Thanks! Lusitana 09:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

yes, i saw it, thanks. If i'm corrcet, guillom already handled it. Effeietsanders 10:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requests for permissions

please process my request, do not further delay this request because its already too late. Wisesabre 07:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It seems to me that user wahab is not available, but I still got few votes Wisesabre 13:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WM07 scholarship

Hi, Effeietsanders, very sorry for the late reply, and thank you very much for your message. The current status of WM07 scholarships are now updated on http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships, and formal announcement should be out soon. Best regards, --roc (talk) 17:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fundraising notice on sl:

I just thought you might want to know that the fundraising notice is still seen on sl:MediaWiki:Anonnotice. Have a nice day! Timrem 00:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abt temporary adminship

Sir, I think that my adminship request here has been overlooked. Could you do something about it? Thank you.--Eukesh 15:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Temp Sysop re issue

Hello, I would like my temp sysop reinstated as I am still working on the translations for the SG and LG wikipedias (mainly the SG now). My username is Ice201 and they were expired yesterday, so I was about to do the translations for Sango (SG) but I found out my rights have been expired. sg.wikipedia.org and lg.wikipedia.org Thank you! --Ice201 12:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Please make your request on Requests for permissions. Thank you. Effeietsanders 19:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SYSOP of MZN wikipedia

Okay, i was awaiting for that expiration, Is it possible that i convert the system messages into this language? i mean to giving you the php file information and you import it ? Let me know by leaving your message into my user page in mzn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:ali1986, How about, being bureaucrat ? without being sysop ? I mean i am going to opening an election to choosing bureaucrat, Thank you for your care, --Ali 17:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

responded on his talkpage there. Effeietsanders 11:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] ku.wikipedia

Danke für deine Anmeldung in ku.wikipedia.org --Xani 14:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yiddish wiki solution

I would like to inform u that i added a condition to your proposal, what Danny has told us at the time on irc channel when this idea was formulated, that the new sysops are obligated to take care of the community within 16 hours. so please don't make them sysop before they assure u this important obligation. thanks for your help--יודל 12:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I moved it to the comments section, I think it fits better there. Effeietsanders 21:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
OK but please before u make them sysop tell them this because since they are outside users they should come at least once a day to visit us and address the issues. tnx--71.247.92.11 22:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Votes for sysop in the Yiddish Wiki

Since our new sysops are just ignoring us, and their Yiddish is not good, our wiki is on the way to destruction, we need our own bureaucrat and sysops ASAP. This is why we made votes, I am asking you to respect our wish, and ignore this one user who wants to control all by himself the Yiddish wiki.--Jeo100 19:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

One more point. HRAL is now bureaucrat in the Hebrew wiki, and since he was the only one helping us, he has even less time now, the other two never even showed up in our wiki.--Jeo100 19:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
This user user:יודל vandalized our votes by adding himself.[1].--Jeo100 01:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
that page isnt about runi it is about the generel qwestion should we ignore the other sysops and stareds who just made new sysops or we stay like it is now. i just put my name becouse i am also runuing for sysop--יודל 01:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This user voted against it first, explaining that he is against “runy”. now he plays like he doesn’t understand the vote --Jeo100 02:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, this is exactly why I want a confirmation first whether the vote went fair :) I am quite confused by what you guys are saying. I hope that one of them will respond quickly, I have sent them an email. Effeietsanders 20:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
first of all dror danny and harel where all active when the question is vandalism its a simple lie that they are not active. they are simply silent on all those difference of opinion since they are not willing to get involved of inside community issues between the 2 rabbis, because we are not yet a big wiki of multiple users to decide we are simply 2 users one says so and one says another think. thats the reason we got rid in the first place of all those sysops. whenever their is real vandalism or whenever their is a system request on of those guys are responsive.--יודל 16:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Effeietsanders, I will explain you a little bit what’s going on take a take a look here he Disagreed to the vote saying that he is against runy.
here is the first time he added hin name to the vote as a Candidate, after "8" user voted "yes" are you still confused. I don’t believe that after looking into this 2 links you should still be confused, its simple "ALL" of the Disagree users, are one and the same "person", he is known in the YI wiki as "זלמן לייב" "יודל" and with much more names. More to it, that most of the user names never even contributed any thing and even more to it, that most of them signed up after the vote started. Its one and the same "person" trying to manipulate the outcome of the vote. we just need to be blind not to see how 1 "person" is sabotaging the entire community. is it Even fair to consider words from some one That is capable of adding his name to a "ongoing" vote "after 10 people voted" (8 for yes and 2 for no)?!!!!.. Now, for me its not even a question because I know him……. It’s just that you should know whats going on and to save you from the confusions. --Joel.m 16:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

if a sockpupet check is going to be done u will see everythink but please see how he is lying to u he says that dror never visited the wiki its fooling u around. look here his edits in our wiki why should he lie to u? only to further his agenda to force himself upon us. please don't be fooled.--יודל 16:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
If you speak about lying don’t forget that you are the one lying by claiming that the vote was also meant to vote you in, see the above link, you added your name as a candidate in middle of an ongoing vote that did not count you as a candidate, so shut up liar…..(sorry for the expression)…. Now about what you say on dror, “no one” said the “dror never visited the wiki” so the only liar over here will be you. By the way see this he is accepting his sysop right only as "temporary"……. + he is not fluent in Yiddish, see in the link you brought you will find that he signed in as a user on April 25 07 since then he updated his user page and made only minor changes as redirects etc. till may 26 which is his last update. Since may 26 till today you (yidal) violated every day at least one the 3rr rule under several diff user names and he did not take action… now to the point, don’t drag the discussion away, we have now votes for a permanent sysop, (as long as he will not be out-voted) not as dror which admits taking it as temporary, and we do need sysop's that are fluent in Yiddish, Yidel stop making a ful of every one. --Joel.m 17:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] arabic wikipedia arbcom

Hello, arabic wikipedia has what some think is an arbcom. one of its members is 16 yo. not all identities known. but more importantly, arabic wikipedia has neither working dispute resolution policy, nor a mediation committee. do you think it's appropriate to list it here? Many thanks. --Azdiyy 10:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I do not see why you are asking me this exactly. The arbitration committee is a local issue, and is up to the local community. What is the best way to let a community work might differ a lot throughout the different communities. I cannot see how the arabic situation is, and can not give my opinion well based upon facts. The only information I have is rumours. I think this is best to be resolved in the local community. The fact that there might nor be a dispute resolution policy doesnt really prevent one to write such a policy. You can come up with a solution for this missing part yourself, alone or in coorporation with others. Of course the last is advised. Effeietsanders 21:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
today ar was added here. imo only wikimedia approved arbcoms should be listed? if not, please ignore my question. btw, i have translated medcom and mediation policies on ar.wi. i was about to translate dispute resolution when i got banned. so i hope you don't mind seeing me more for a while - rumours won't stay long :) --Azdiyy 23:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Azdiyy, thank you for taking the time to translate that. On the arbcom part, I do not recall any policy that obliges Wikimedia (whatever that may be in this context) to approve or deny arbcoms. I know the Dutch arbcom has not been really approved either. I only were able to find one sentence in the policy for checkuser that wikimedia-arbcoms could appoint checkusers or so (check the policy for the exact wordings), but I was never able to find any more information, and as far as I know, other arbcoms have also just been appointed by the community.
Yours sincerely, Effeietsanders 11:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Username change request.

I'd like my WM usernames to include my surname. Please change my username here on meta from User:Jeandré to User:Jeandré du Toit. Ta. -- Jeandré, 2007-05-27t17:55z

Hi Jeandré, I think you need a local bureaucrat for that. I am steward, but no bureaucrat here. (and I guess there is a request page "somewhere" around here) Effeietsanders 18:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] votes for Yiddish sysop

please run check user and close up the vote, take your findings to heral dror, and let us move on, we are Tired from endless non sense arguments caused by 1 person he voted 5 times already – under diff user names – its time to go. Thanks a million. --Joel.m 17:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


BTW Look at this amazing thing he has 2 votes for no its the same person. --Joel.m 18:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Eff if you don't see how you are being used by this vandal i can only throw up my hands and give up. You were used by him to first time last month to take away my sysop and now to grant himself sysop. Here is one small proof along the way: he claims to u that dror isn't active and hasn't visited our wiki not even once. but look here in this link [2]. he alone has vandalized a page with wrong interwikis. that dror has had to come and fix. after he made an edit fight about it with myself. not talking just reverting like a cheap vandal. So how is that for a lier and a vandal to dare to manipulate you a well respected steward in the foundation is beyond me. Please act responsible and talk to dror before you do again damage to our project.--יודל 10:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Please try to find some thing better out of the 100’s of updates I made. Calling users “vandal” for no good reason and with out any proof or link will not help you, please stop spinning peoples heads, and answer the links I brought. --Joel.m 17:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] please finish the votes for the-Yiddish Viki

we truing to billed up the Yiddish Viki, we can not do any thing till u will finelisz the vote for the Yiddish sysop, please do so, thanks.--Yiddish man 14:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Please don't act on this joke. We have enough sysops, those votes he is talking about are no votes. the community has voted last month to undo all sysops you oversaw that voteing process and lets stay by it until the next fair and normal vote is going to come along. This is ridicules every day difrent votes and whoever has more time that day will win? Please don't let yourself be dragged into this vandalism for good of a whole wiki language project, u don't speak the language trust Danny Dror and Harel who understand Yiddish to do whatever they want. Thanks--יודל 14:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
it is crazy on the Yiddish Viki, it is getting more and more crazy ther, but u ken not punish us to close the Yiddish Viki if u do not give us a chins to fix it.

this man יודל just sad on the Yiddish Viki he have 127 people wite the seme pas word to write on the same name !

thanks

--Yiddish man 15:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

it is a lie, i did not say it! WOW Eff what more do u need for convincing how low this guy is?!--יודל 15:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

איך וויל איר זאלט אלע וויסן אז די ליסטע זענען יא אנדערע מענטשן, ס'איז איין גרופע וואס האלט זיך גוט און יעדער האט יעדעמס פעסווארדס און יעדער האט רשות פון יעדעם צו ניצן דעם אנדערנס אינפארמעשאן, מיר זענען א גרופע פון 127 באנוצער, און מיר וועלן אויסראטן די פאר טארבל מעיקעיר וואס פייניגן אונז. --יודל 14:11, 13 יוני 2007 (UTC) --Yiddish man 15:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Please provide a link where i have written this?--יודל 15:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

http://yi.wikipedia.org/wiki/װיקיפּעדיע:קאווע_שטיבל#.D7.90.D7.9D_.D7.A4.D7.92.D7.A2_.D7.91.D7.9A_.D7.94.D7.90.27.D7.A8.D7.95.D7.A0.D7.99_.D7.94.D7.96.D7.94_.D7.9E.D7.A9.D7.9B.D7.94.D7.95_.D7.9C.D7.9B.D7.90.D7.9F


Yiddish man 15:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Please provide a link to the "last edit change" of this specific edit you are trying to mention here. So Eff can see for himself who is the real author and user name behind the written words you attribute to me and u claim and accuse me that i have written it.--יודל 15:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Enough is enough, the local members and users are not satisfied with the currant Sysops since “none” of them speck a fluent Yiddish, it is now outrages and way out of hand. The way it is now pages are being redirected time and time again every day and no one bothers, Because they don’t understand the situation. including “the current” SySops,see all the user below are 1 and the same person. “וואסה דיף” “גרשון זשעקאבי” “יוּדל” “יאסי” “שומר פיו” “Hebrew” “יוסף 90” “Yiddish wikipedia” “י. מ. סופר” “Jewboy” “זלמן לייב” “יחות” only with his name זלמן לייב he made from may 25-30 59!!!! Redirects.
Redirects done by all of the above name’s together are 105 now here is the point this person is a manipulator, he cannot take some thing that does not go his way, he has an open proxy, every time he resets his terminal he will get a new IP address, he uses this fact rely well and he creates every day new user ID’s and to his luck its always from a diff IP address, now he is fighting against the votes because he wants to gain time and mean wile he creates new user names and does 100 updates on them so by the next vote he will have the majority. Please don’t let this happen. Close the vote and grant Sysop right’s to the new elected user. --Joel.m 16:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

OK this was Quick: Eff please make a check user on this guy who he claims has written it and see whose name it is. the results will astound you. And thats what our sysops know all about this is one guy who tries to make different names to make fun out of our community and to try to convince you that our wiki is crazy. And thats why they are quite to not give this above guy any attention. If you do a check user on him you will see what kind of a man you are falling for. Good luck--יודל 16:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
lessen, if יודל have look to close the Yiddish Viki,or to make people move away from the Yiddish Viki, all of u have here a series problem,

it can be wit any wiki on some way or in a other way, so please take care wit this, make some roles to stop him,

--Yiddish man 16:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

please take a look at this list, this is a partial list of יודל’s user names, he is jumping on me that I have more then one name, yes indeed a have more then one name, since יודל started monitoring my updates and messed around with them however I never ever and again never ever tried to vote with more the one name. I never tried to manipulate the vote I gave my one and only kosher vote, not as יודל voting with diffrant user names in order to get the outcome of a vote in his favor….. I believe I said enough, its not about the individual fighting its about voting for management. we will take the local fighting to the local manegment that understand Yiddish. --Joel.m 16:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
All of the 3 sysops understand Yiddish. Eff does not. So therefore please all yiddish usernames dont leave any meseges on this talk page invovlving fights bewean you. He is not in charge of the yiddish wikipedia. Talk to Danny or Dror or Harel about all local issues. They understand english hebrew and Yiddish. Thanks--B&H 16:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I wont thank you for your advice I’ll let Eff do it, by the way aren’t you יודל with a new name? My question is not on the user name or on the IP address you may have reseted you router my question is on the person sitting behind the key board. --66.114.85.202 17:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I was not sure if I should comment, but since יודל is an expert id changing subjects I don’t want this to happen now, please take a look at this link it’s a clear statement from DrorK “My Yiddish is indeed not good enough to write in the Yiddish Wikipedia, however I speak fluent Hebrew and English, and my parents are fluent Yiddish speakes.” So saying the Sysops are fluent in Yiddish is not really what it is…….We need Sysops that “are” fluent in Yiddish not Ssops with parents speaking Yiddish. However this is not the issue, the issue is that we hade votes no mater for what reason, the majority of users gave the word that we want insiders not out siders. It needs to be accepted ASAP. --Joel.m 17:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
HAHA Dror says that he dosnt want to write becouse its not good enough and he thinks that he does not understand Yiddish. Fact is he does understand prfectly enough to fix your vadalism and dont be fooled tha he does not know who u are. Thats the reason he is silent becouse he sees perfectly whats going on.--B&H 17:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 :::: Don’t play with peoples words he did not write that he doesn’t “want” to write” he wrote My Yiddish is indeed not good enough to write” and he wrote "however I speak fluent Hebrew and English" he left Yiddish aside. you are changing the subject again, its not really a difference what he wrote, the issue is (again) the majority voted and it needs to be accepted. --Joel.m 17:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
This isn't called a majority u have cut and copied signatures to support runi, this is dictatorship and a fraud i ask Eff to refrain himself from acting here and to not let himself be used by a vandal who wants to hijack our community. Please don't mix yourself into this you don't understand Yiddish this isn't something you should act. But if you make runi a sysop you will be responsible. This talk page will serve as a turning point to our problems he will block users day and night like before. he was sysop already and he was found to be an abuser who steped on all wikimiedia foundation's rules and policies. PLEASE DON'T KILL US I BEG YOU!!--יודל 21:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
look who is speaking, you ware the one copying and pasting becouse you wanted to put your name up as well. joel.m
hopefully the check user will say who copied those signatures for votes i am against runi for sysop since he says openly that he is goeing to block me why should i soprt him he was sysop and blocked me daily am i crazy to want him again abusing me? you dont make any sense at all. Eff please dont act look how dror blocked today 3 users for uncivil conduct vandalism is take care there is no need to make more sysops who are proven vandals.--יודל 14:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Usurpation

Thanks. Done. Lexicon 18:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I am an admin on the sk wiki and have a question regarding the following case handled by you http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_permissions&oldid=601514#Slovak_Wikipedia. In your reaction, you refer to this rule http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_permissions&oldid=601514#Removal_of_access requiring that either the admin himself files a request or that there be a "consensus" of the respective wiki. I/We would like to know what exactly you understand by the word "consensus" in this context. Your final statement in the case suggests that you want ALL users of the wiki to agree with the desysoping. Is that the case? Wouldn't that imply that no admin can ever be deprived of his rights as soon as there is only one other user supporting him? Wouldn't it make more sense if consensus was construed as the result of voting like in the case at hand or even construed the way it is understood in the respective wiki (as quoted by Helix84 under http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_permissions&oldid=601514#Slovak_Wikipedia)? Bronto 21:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

In this case there are multiple possibilities to gain consensus. A consensus in general is a vast majority. I beleive en.wikipedia takes 75-80% as a border for that if youa re regarding to a vote. However, you do not really need 75-80% supporting desysop per se. (Some wiki's require that though, I think srwiki has that procedure).
What is important here is consensus on what percentage is needed to desysop someone. If almost everybody feels that you can not function as a sysop when you have 25% of the community against you, then 25% in favor of desysop will do. In the Dutch language Wikipedia that is for instance the case. When a vast majority beleives that a sysop can only be deadminned with a normal vote (50%), then that should happen. That is what I mean here with consensus. I can not desysop just because some people who come and give contradicting claims. Maybe you could suggest to the sysop to give it up for now, and then re-apply for sysophood? Effeietsanders 21:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I understand your point. One last question: The voting in the skwiki regarding Liso was a voting to "confirm his adminship". While there are no explicit rules for such confirmation votings in the sk wiki, there are rules applying to voting for the election of a new admin (2/3 are needed). (Why) do you think that the substance of these two votings is different and hence separate and different rules are needed for "confirmation votings"? Bronto 23:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraight that again that is something to be decided locally. Because also that is done in different ways in different wiki's. (on the behalf of percentages) If you are currently unable to reach consensus over these procedures, maybe consider mediation. You could ask an experienced user who can read sk (for instance a neutral community member or a member of another wikipedia in a language that is a little similar to yours) to think about the case. But only do that if all parties involved agree that his/her judgement should be followed! That might be a way out of this impasse. Effeietsanders 06:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] localization of steward responsibilities

With regard to your comment on the question for an African steward that there are no stewards for a group of languages but that any steward could help, please consider the following: If every steward thinks that some steward will do it, chances are that no-one actually does it. As far as I have observed, every steward has a range of projects that they feel responsible for or interested in. What about approaching a steward with the request to focus their responsibilities on African language wikipedias? If you are aware of anyone who would fit the bill, I'd be more than grateful if you could approach that person. Thanks! Oliver

There is a centralized page for requests, which is observed by multiple stewards: Requests for Permissions. It is kept there who has done what, and that way, nothing will be forgotten. The chance that something is forgotten is actually larger when you appoint one specific person for an area, because a person can get sick, can be hit by a bus, or can just stop helping out on wikimedia as a steward because he lacks the joy. A focus is hence not needed and unwanted imho. When I see a request and look at the language code, I honestly dont think about whether it is African, Asian or European, but I just look into the matter, and make a decision whether the request is right. Effeietsanders 10:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the explanation! Will follow suit ... Oliver 25 June 2007

[edit] Redirecting Categories On YI

user Yudl with his "Yoivy" name doesnot stop to redirect full categories who is therefore hiding a lot of articles. we ask him a lot times mercifully to not do this. instead of writing an encyclopedia, we are siting all the day to fix his disturbances. A very little of this: [3] [4] [5] [6]. Jiddisch 08:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

We are still waiting for the result. Jiddisch 13:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Temporary permissions

I have held an election to confirm my status, it seems the community wants me kept on as admin. ak:b:User:SunStar Net is my login there. --WiganRunnerEu 21:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Could you please apply then for permanent status on Requests for Permissions then with a link to that election? Thanks. Effeietsanders 20:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tetum wikipedia

Hello,

regarding this comment: Did you read [7]? So please make me sysop again. MF-Warburg(de) 10:05, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

No, I did not see it, as it was not linked in the page where the temporary sysophoods are. I will re-add it. Effeietsanders 20:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Setswana Wikipedia

Greetings Effeietsanders,

I have left you a message here.

[edit] Atlanta Wikimania

I don't see any harm in the question he posed, and we answered it. We are more than happy to answer any questions or comments anyone has. Mike Halterman 09:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania 2008 bid: carbon neutral question.

Re [8].

The carbon neutral question is to gauge if the organizers have taken it into consideration for choosing the conference location and housing, and if they're trying to get offsets for the flights. The answers could influence what city's chosen if some of the jury members care about the increased greenhouse gas emissions caused by the event. -- Jeandré, 2007-08-26t10:56z
Hmmm, still I dont see the value of your question. Why would the choise of a city influence the choise of getting carbon neutral? The general concept of the conference, and I consider carbon neutral as part of a possible general concept) is independent of the location. Just like the program. Those things do not and should not depend on the choise of the city. However, they could be a choise after the city has been chosen. Therefore I suggest to start the general discussion, and not to bother the people under high pressure to deliver a good bid. Effeietsanders 11:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand what you're asking here.
Say bid A has conference centre and housing locations that are carbon neutral, and the organizers made a deal with the major airlines to the city to buy offsets.
Bid B's conference location is in a coal burning coal power plant, and offers only jumbo jets and SUVs for transport from the plant to the housing areas.
Jury member 1 is a Green and gives a high score to bid A for reducing the increased greenhouse gas emissions caused by the event; and gives a low score for bid B because they don't.
Jury member 2 thinks anthropogenic climate change is a hoax, likes coal, jets, and SUVs, and so gives a low score to bid A and a high score for bid B.
Asking the question before a bid is chosen by the jury members allows the organizers to answer a question which could be important to some of the jury members in their decision on what bid to choose. -- Jeandré, 2007-08-27t11:34z

[edit] Meta:Administrators/confirm

Hi Effeietsanders,

Well, I'm aware of that. ;-) If the confirmation of an admin is questioned, users should return again to the confirmation page to express their opinion. As I probably will not watch this page carefully, I prefer to vote once and for all. Cheers, Korg + + 15:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

You could of course put the page on your watchlist... :) Effeietsanders 16:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Of course, but it's rather for a question of convenience... Korg + + 09:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tpiwiki

Hi, I believe there's been an error in dates: you've removed sysop access on tpiwiki for tpi:User:Wantok and tpi:User:Aliasd today due to expiry, but the expiry date is actually 22 October - see the approval. Is it possible to restore the rights until that date? Cheers, Wantok (toktok) 02:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right... My mistake. I wish there was finally an option to grant sysop for a specific time and that it'd be removed *automaticly*... no more worries about mistakes then :) Effeietsanders 09:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] De-sysop

Would you mind de-sysoping my en.wikipedia account. en:User:The Random Editor. --The Random Editor 19:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Please make your request on Requests for Permissions as indicated there. Thanks. Effeietsanders 20:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Ewornar

Hi, I think you gave User:Ewornar sysop rights on the wrong wiki. While you gave him rights on hsbwiki, he actually requested sysop rights on hsbwiktionary. -- Prince Kassad 09:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Grmbl, you are right. OK, now i'm certain, I will no longer process requests which don't have all the required fields filled in. It's too easy to make mistakes that way. Thanks for mentioning. Effeietsanders 10:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the suggestions at Nepalbhasa wikipedia. I will try to implement it as soon as I have some free time. Thanks again.--Eukesh 09:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Vandalism on Māori wikipedia

Hello Effeietsanders. I am a bureaucrat on the Māori Wikipedia. Thanks for your work in reverting French-language vandalism on the Māori Wikipedia. Could you tell me what this is all about? My French is not quite good enough for me to figure out just what has been happening, and who are the goodies and the baddies, so I can step in if it happens again. Kahuroa 23:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kahuroa, the guy (and IP) who I have blocked was harassing the guy who's userpage it was. He was making all kinds of insults. Apperently this is a process going on for quite a while on a lot of wiki's. I hope this helps you a bit, although I do not suspect much that xe will come back to maori wikipedia, as xe might very well just pick another one... Effeietsanders 19:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Banned on Wikipedia

Excuse me, I am banned on Wikipedia due to abusive sockpuppetry. How can I ask to have my ban appealed. The Wikipedist 19:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Stewards are not an ability to appeal. Please see for the local guidelines for abilities for possible appeal or what possibilities you further have. Effeietsanders 20:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] en.wikibooks De-Sysopping

Thanks for taking care of this. -withinfocus 18:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimusic

Could you please contact me by e-mail? I have an interesting idea for search functionality which I want to discuss. (I speak Dutch.) RotR 22:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfP

Please unsysop Galkovsky at uk.wikipedia.org (see [9]) and Didaio at uk.wikinews.org (see [10])--Ahonc 09:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Desysopping

Thank you for my desysopping ;) --Fredericks 21:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For the comment on policy. I am sure it is "understood" but the fact it didn't say it (& in the Checkuser one as well) just leaves it open for folk to argue I think. I only edited the CU because I saw another edit there today which made me read it again - do revert my edit by all means (and you may wish to look at the other edit today too). Regards --Herby talk thyme 13:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'm sorry, I did not know that people were messing that policy up already this much. I made it an unofficial policy, because obviously with no means you can see a real policy in it anymore when people change even the meaning of it as they like... Maybe they are right, maybe not, I don't judge that, but I do not think that it should have happened that way though. Let's just focus for now on rewriting the whole thing, and having that more official and protect it etc to make sure not the same happens... Effeietsanders 13:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you ...

... for extending my sysop privs on gd.wikt for another three months. This will give me enough time to have a good go at reviving it :) - Alison ❤ 14:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

No need to thank :) We should thank *you* :) Effeietsanders 15:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation requests/WMF/Over Wikimedia

effie! /me huggles. But is the above page ready for publishing? Thanks, Cbrown1023 talk 01:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Ye,s i think it is already ready for a few months :P Effeietsanders 12:00, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I've published it, but I was unsure if this section was proofread. :-) If you find any mistakes, feel free to flag me down and I'll fix them on the wiki. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 04:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ‌Beurocrat access

Dear Effeietsanders greetings

I am writing to ask you for the Burocrate access in Pashto wikipedia. Since there is no Burocrate and 4 admins among them I am one of the sysop who has translated the interface of the Pashto wikipedia from the english one. Besides the 2 other admins are not pashto speakers or writers they just do some technical jobs like one of them is spam detector who blocks the spammers and the other has done some minor or big changes in font size and other layouts. Among the two Pashto sysops as Native pashto speakers one of them is not active at all and i myself have to do all the job. Now since it is difficult for non native pashto speakers to develope the website i ask for the permission of being burocrate, many users send me emails and ask for the change of their name and application of being sysop to actively participate in Pashto wikipedia building but my jobs are limited and those are that i cant rename their names those who want or some other thing they ask for. I think there is a need for a Burocrate and u can check my old records of the participation. I will write you some of the information about my username here in your discussion page and hope that you could find out a solution for this problem that i mentioned.

My details are as in the following

Username: احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل Projectname: Pashto wikipedia Language-code: Ps user-page: [11]

At the end i want to mention that i had requested for the Burocrate at the wikiMedia Burocrate request pages but you had answered to my request by a negative response to my request thats why i had to explain it in your discussion page.

Regards Ahmed Najib Biabani Ibrahimkhel

Hi Ahmed, thank you for your explanation. It is always good to hear that peopel are so hard working on smaller projects. For now, it seems that pswiki is still small enough to have it's requests processed through meta. I also seem to read (corrcet me if I'm wrong) that you think that a bureaucrat decides who becomes sysop. That is not the case. The full community should be deciding that. Whether there is a bureaucrat or not does not determine whether pswiki can have more sysops. If the community agrees to have another sysop, it should discuss that, and you could link to that page (preferrably with an english summary there) from RfP, and the stewards will perform the wish of the community. Generally this is done in the shape of elections. You can also request a usernamechange here on meta. Effeietsanders 15:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

HI ANDERS

HOW CAN WE ARRANGE AN ELECTION FOR A BUREACRATE STATUS ON PASHTO WIKIPEDIA? COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT, AND COULD YOU WRITE DOWN THE LINK WHERE ONE CAN CHANGE THE USER NAME. I HAVE CONSIDERED THE CHANGE OF MY NAME CUASE FOR NON PASHTO SPEAKERS ITS NOT EASY TO READ MY NAME I WILL RATHER PREFER REWRITING MY NAME IN ENGLISH.

REGARDS

AHMED NAJIB BIABANI IBRAHIMKHEL

Hi,
You can request username changes here: Requests_for_username_changes.
Elections should be organized on the local wiki. That means that you could organize it in the local equivalent of the Village Pump, by asking people their opinion on a certain question, and give the option "agree" and "disagree". Generally, these elections are hold for one or two weeks. Then, if there is a support of 75% for a certain candidate, you could request adminship. 75% is generally considered broad support. Effeietsanders 16:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verzoek

Ik heb het verzoek wat je gisteren op de chat deed uitgevoerd. Groetjes, MoiraMoira 08:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

thnx! :) Effeietsanders 10:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steward elections

My apologies. I didn't notice the deadline. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem, can happen to anyone. Effeietsanders 09:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rights query

Hi - I see that you have removed some steward rights. Might I ask why Ausir remains a checkuser on Meta in the absence of steward rights? He has not been elected by the community so I assumed he only had those rights because he was a steward? Thanks & regards --Herby talk thyme 17:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The Checkuser rights are independent of the Steward rights. So I presume that Ausir will have gone through *some* type of process to get them. I think it is the meta community you should ask :) (or Ausir himself could request removal). A lot of stewards got checkuser or admin rights granted mainly because of their steward status, but that does not mean they are coupled. Effeietsanders 18:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - I can find no process at all. Ausir has removed his own CU rights on pl wp I think & I shall request removal of Commons CU rights later this week through inactivity - it would seem odd if any access to the CU log were maintained on Meta I think --Herby talk thyme 18:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brisbane

Hi there. I have responded to your queries on the Brisbane Q&A page - please let me know if you need any more detail on anything! I have had to keep the budget details a bit vague as per my post to the wikimania-jury mailing list, but more exact figures are available in the same message. If you need another copy of the document, let me know and I'll forward it to you. Thanks, Craig Franklin 13:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC).

Thanks for answering. And sorry for being a pain in the ass with these nasty questions ;-) Effeietsanders 22:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Updated with further information. No need to apologise, I am confident that Brisbane has the best developed plan for hosting a conference, and I'm happy to answer questions to convince others of that =). Craig Franklin 11:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC).

[edit] temproray sysop acces

sorry dear Effeietsanders we have high amoung of vandalism in fawiki and none of local sysop are on line. i need emergent sysop access on mardetanha@fawiki thanks --Mardetanha 23:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks one of local sysop came.thanks--Mardetanha 23:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, if you require emergency access, the best way to notify someone is through IRC on the channel #wikimedia-stewards on Freenode. You can find more information about that on IRC. (For future reference :), glad it is solved already )Effeietsanders 12:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thanks on that time i had problems with chatzilla ! thank for your kind advise.--Mardetanha 17:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
If you do not have access to IRC, you could try http://chat.wikizine.org to log in. It is a webbased chatclient, and that way you are not dependent on Chatzilla :) Effeietsanders 20:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for deletion/renaming of an account

Hi, I'm de:Benutzer:Tinz, an admin of the german Wikipedia. Some months ago, after I blocked a sockpuppet of a known troll on :de, he created the account "Tinz" on 9 different wikis (es,fr,it,ja,nl,pl,pt,sv,zh) and created a defamatory userpage on each wiki, trying to connect me with nazi soldiers (the only edit on each of the projects). It would be nice if you could

  • Block that user and delete the abusive userpage on nl nl:User:Tinz
  • If possible, rename the account on that project so that I can complete the recently activated Single-User-Login for my account "Tinz".

Thank you very much, --Tinz 21:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, please make your request on the request page, here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verzoek_voor_hernoeming_van_account Effeietsanders 07:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WM España

Ik gaa doen. Hartelijk bedankt, man. :-)

lol :) Effeietsanders 18:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hernoemen

Hoi,

Zou jij op nl.wikimedia.org mijn gebruikersnaam kunnen hernoemen naar SterkeBak ivm SUL

Alvast bedankt. Sterkebak 15:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deblokkade

Hoi Effeietsanders,

Zou ik gedeblokkeerd mogen worden op het kanaal: #wikipedia-nl?

Groet,

62.195.210.214 11:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC) / MMaerkk 11:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steward Access

Sorry lost the connection to my wireless. Was wondering who I have to contact in order to get my Steward rights back? I used to have them on my other accout Karl Wick but that got compromised. I have provided a diff in emails to several people but not got any response to them. Was wondering if you could shead some light on who I would contact or what I would have to do to get the rights back. Many Thanks KarlWickk 20:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Ehm, I don't see why? Effeietsanders 23:03, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
This user has been blocked as a sockpuppet FYI. Majorly talk 23:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I had a little suspicion like that :) Thanks for letting me know. Effeietsanders 00:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Dag effeietsanders. The translation is ready, it can be found at Jimmy Wales. Sorry for not having an account here, i'll try to unify accounts as soon as possible. 85.136.164.243 16:56, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

¡Muchas gracias, Vitamine! :) Cbrown1023 talk 17:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your name in English

According to me your Dutch name should be translated in English as 'just a little different'. For a while means during some time, during a certain period of time. Effe means just a few moment, shortened as 'just'.AdeleivdVelden 11:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Percentages

Beste EIA, de percentages kloppen niet 100%, dat zal best. Maar we moeten er wel érgens melding van maken. Dit is nl wel een groot "voordeel" tov de bid van Oxford, die ook deze cijfers refereren. Migdejong 13:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hoi Mig,
Nja, de cijfers kloppen echt flink niet helaas voor nederland. Want het probleem is gewoon de servers die in amsterdam staan en de vele botjes die ze draaien begreep ik. En vergeet niet, polen gaat straks ook schermen met cijfers, en roepen dat ze een relatief grote taal hebben. Misschien kunnen we beter focussen op de /echte/ voordelen waar mensen wat aan heben als ze hierheen komen. Ik denk dan vooral aan de stad, de atmosfeer, de internationale houding, de professionaliteit enz. Overigens ben ik er zeker wel voor om er nog ergens melding van te maken, maar niet zo uitgebreid. Misschien dat Erik Zachte betrouwbaardere cijfers heeft? Evegetaanders 21:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] User rights

Please sign here if you wish to continue holding user rights here. Thanks, Majorly talk 15:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] My question

Well,

In fact I am not sure if I even have the right to mention that bistro page, as it might be seen as infringing the instructions on Board elections/2009/Candidates/Questions#Instructions :

Please do not use the question pages to link to other pages with more questions

But the Bistro has an uptodate archive page, and you may also google "bistro 20 mai 2009". If you still have problems to find the page, you can ask me again. Teofilo 11:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the notice of "pages with more questions" is important. A link to such an archive would not be a link falling under that request, since you would not pose questions there. The idea behind the request seems to be that you wont put multiple questions into one "question", such as "could you please answer all questions on this page? Thanks." ... I would appreciate it if you could add the information to the question. Effeietsanders 11:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Done Done Teofilo 05:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thanks. Effeietsanders 10:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Macedonia

Hi Effeietsanders. I'm member of the Initiative Board of Wikimedia Macedonia, and I want to ask you about the news of the approval of our organization. Few weeks ago, I sent an e-mail to ChapCom in which I presented the news about our local chapter. I received the information about the meeting of the Committee at Wikimania 2009, and the potential approvals for Wikimedia Macedonia, and Wikimedia Finland. The Wikimania ended, but there aren't informations about the meeting of the Committee, and we didn't receive an e-mail yet. Nowadays, I'm active on Meta, and you can write some news here. You can also contact me, by sending an e-mail on tha address: kiril.simeonovski@gmail.com. I hope that our cooperation will carry on. Best regards. Salute.--Kiril Simeonovski 20:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Kiril, I only joined recently the chapcom, and have a lot to read up to. Unfortunately, I am not sure of the answer right now. As soon as the chapter is officially approved, it will be posted on foundation-l by the board. Effeietsanders 21:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Berichten op Nederlandstalige Wikipedia

Effeietsanders, die berichten waar je het net op de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia over had, zijn van mij afkomstig. Zet ze maar neer waar ik om had gevraagd. Wikix 11:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] You denied me

Respected.. Mr. you denied me to become an admin at http://sd.wikinews.org thanks for that. You said "Request for adminship is denied, most, if not all, voting users are sockpuppets of Zafar". After 2 years I am seeing.. here you denied http://sd.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Community_Portal by the way how u can say the users were sockpuppests. I leaved project, because of u. Once again thanks. 116.71.53.28 10:50, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, based on Checkuser I determined that the users were owned by the same user. I can't tell any more by who, but that makes the request highly doubtful and it has been rejected because of that. If you notice that only two years later, I can only assume that you would not have been a very good admin anyway. Of course I welcome any users to participate in the Wikimedia projects, including you. However, that does not mean I will hide away the truth to get there. Effeietsanders 16:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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