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أهلا MarsRover ، ومرحبا بك في ويكيميديا ميتا ويكي! يعمل هذا الموقع على تنسيق ومناقشة كل مشاريع ويكيميديا. ربما سيكون مفيدا لك مطالعة صفحة السياسات هنا. إذا كنت مهتما بأمور الترجمة، راجع ميتا:بابلون. يمكنك أيضا ترك ملاحظة في ميتا:بابل (من فضلك راجع أولا التعليمات هناك قبل ترك الملاحظة). إذا أردت الاستفسار عن شئ ، لا تتردد في سؤالي في صفحة نقاشي. تمتع بالتحرير هنا!

Hola MarsRover! Benvingut a la Meta-Wiki de la Fundació Wikimedia! Aquest lloc està fet per a coordinar i discutir tots els projectes de la Fundació Wikimedia. Potser us serà útil llegir la nostra pàgina de polítiques (en anglès). Si us interessen les traduccions, visiteu Meta:Babylon. També podeu deixar un missatge a Meta:Babel o al Meta:Metapub (però abans de fer-ho, llegiu les instruccions situades al principi de la pàgina). No dubteu en preguntar si teniu qualsevol dubte. Si cal ho podeu fer en la meva pàgina de discussió. Bona sort!

Vítejte, uživateli MarsRover, a vítejte na Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Tento server je určen pro spolupráci a diskusím ke všem projektům nadace Wikimedia. Možná si budete chtít přečíst naše pravidla. Pokud chcete spolupracovat na překladech, navštivte Meta:Babylon. Také můžete přidat příspěvek na Meta:Babel či Meta:Metapub (nejdříve si přečtěte pokyny na začátku těchto stránek). V případě potřeby se neváhejte zeptat se na mé diskusní stránce. Hodně štěstí!

Hallo, MarsRover, und Willkommen bei Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Diese Website ist zur Koordination und Diskussion aller Wikimedia-Projekte gedacht. Vielleicht findest du es nützlich, unsere Regelseite zu lesen. Wenn du daran interessiert bist, etwas zu übersetzen, besuche Meta:Babylon. Du kannst auch eine Notiz auf Meta:Babel oder Meta:Metapub hinterlassen (bitte lies die Anleitung am Anfang der Seite, bevor du etwas schreibst). Wenn du möchtest, kannst du mir auf meiner Diskussionseite Fragen stellen. Fröhliches Bearbeiten.

ވިކިމީޑިޔާގެ މީޓާ-ވިކީ އަށް މަރުހަބާ! މިވެބްސައިޓަކީ ވިކިމީޑިޔާގެ ހުރިހާ މަޝްރޫޢުތަކާއި ބެހޭގޮތުން ވާހަކަތައް ދެކެވި އެ މަޝްރޫޢެއް ހިންގައި ހަދާ ވެބް ސައިޓެވެ. އަޅުގަނޑުމެންގެ ޤަވާއިދުތައް ފުރަތަމަ ވިދާޅުވުމަކީ މުހިންމު ކަމެއް ކަމުގައި ދެކެމެވެ. ތަރުޖަމާކުރާ ހިތްޕުޅުވެވަޑައިގަންނަވާ ނަމަ މީޓާ:ބެބިލޯން އަށް ވަޑައިގަންނަވާށެވެ. އަދި ހަމަ އެހެންމެ މިކަމާއި ބެހޭ ލިޔުމެއް މީޓާ:ބޭބެލް ގައި ލިޔުއްވަވާށެވެ. (އެހެންނަމަވެސް އެޞަފްޙާގައި އެއްވެސް އެއްޗެއް އިތުރު ކުރެއްވުމުގެ ކުރިން އެ ޞަފްހާގެ މަތީގައިވާ ޢިބާރާތް ވިދާޅުވެލައްވާށެވެ.) މިއާއި މުދު ހިތްހަމަޖެހިވަޑައިގަންނަވާ ނަމަ އިތުރު އެހީ އަށް އެދުމަށް މި ޞަފްހާ ގައި އެދުމަށް ފަސްޖެހި ވަޑައި ނުގަންނަވާށެވެ. އުނިއިތުރު ގެނައުމުގައި އުފާވެރި ވަގުތުކޮޅެއް ހޭދަ ކޮށްލައްވާށެވެ!!

Hello MarsRover, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Meta:Metapub (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing!

Hola MarsRover! Bienvenido a la Meta-Wiki de la Fundación Wikimedia! Este sitio es para coordinar y discutir todos los proyectos de la Fundación Wikimedia. Tal vez le sea útil leer nuestra página de políticas (en inglés). Si le interesan las traducciones, visite Meta:Babylon. También puede dejar un mensaje en Meta:Babel o Meta:Metapub (pero antes de hacerlo, por favor lea las instrucciones situadas en lo alto de la página). No dude en preguntar si tiene cualquiera duda, o pregunte en mi página de discusión. Buena suerte!

Hei MarsRover, ja tervetuloa Wikimedian Meta-Wikiin! Tämä nettisivusto on kaikkien Wikimedia-säätiön projektien koordinointia ja keskustelua varten. Saattaa olla hyödyllistä lukea käytäntömme. Jos olet kiinnostunut käännöksistä, käy Meta:Babylon-sivulla. Voit myöskin jättää huomautuksen Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub -sivulle (ole hyvä ja lue ohjeet sivun yläosassa ennenkuin kirjoitat sinne). Jos haluat, saat vapaasti kysyä minulta kysymyksiä keskustelusivullani. Iloisia muokkaushetkiä!

Bonjour MarsRover, et bienvenue sur le Meta-Wiki de Wikimédia ! Ce site a pour but de coordonner et discuter de l’ensemble des projets Wikimédia. Il vous sera utile de consulter notre page sur les règles de Wikimédia. Si vous êtes intéressé par des projets de traduction, visitez Meta:Babylon. Vous pouvez aussi laisser un message sur Meta:Babel ou Meta:Metapub (mais veuillez d’abord lire les instructions en haut de cette page avant d’y poster votre message). Si vous le voulez, vous pouvez me poser vos questions sur ma page de discussion. À bientôt !

נכתב בלשון זכר למען הנוחות
היי MarsRover, וברוך בואך ל- ויקימדיה מטא-ויקי! אתר זה נועד בכדי לתאם פעולות ולדון בפרויקטים של וויקימדיה. יש להניח שדפי המדיניות שלנו יהיו שימושיים עבורך. אם הנך מעוניין לבצע עבודות תרגום, בקר ב-Meta:Babylon. תוכל גם להשאיר הערה ב-Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (אנא קרא את ההוראות בראש הדף לפני כתיבה שם). אם תרצה, הרגש חופשי לרשום לי שאלות בדף השיחה שלי. עריכה נעימה!

Helló MarsRover, és üdv a Wikimedia Meta-Wikijén! Ez a weboldal az összes Wikimedia projektet érintő ügyek megtárgyalására és koordinálására szolgál. Hasznosnak találhatod elolvasni az irányelveinket (angolul). Ha szeretnél fordításokat végezni, látogasd meg a Meta:Babylon-t, vagy a Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, oldalon hagyhatsz üzenetet (mielőtt ide írsz kérlek olvasd el a lap tetején található utasításokat). Ha szeretnél, nyugodtan kérdezz tőlem a vitalapomon. Jó szerkesztést és tartalmas szórakozást! Jó szerkesztést és tartalmas szórakozást!

Ciao MarsRover! Benvenuto sulla Meta-Wiki della Wikimedia Foundation! Questo sito serve a coordinare e discutere di tutti i progetti della Wikimedia Foundation. Potrebbe esserti utile leggere le nostre policy (in inglese). Se sei interessato a fare traduzioni, visita Meta:Babylon. Puoi anche lasciare un messaggio su Meta:Babel o Meta:Metapub (ma per favore, leggi le istruzioni che si trovano all'inizio della pagina prima di scrivere). Se vuoi, puoi lasciarmi un messagio nella mia pagina di discussione. Buona fortuna!

MarsRoverさん、ウィキメディア メタ・ウィキへようこそ!このサイトは、ウィキメディアのプロジェクト間の調整や話し合いを目的としています。もしよろしければ、ポリシーページを是非ご一読下さい。もし翻訳に興味をお持ちなら、Meta:Babylonをご覧下さい。Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub にメッセージを投稿していただくことも可能です(投稿前にページ上部の説明をお読み下さい)。もしよろしければ私のノートページに質問をお寄せ下さい。

MarsRover님, Wikimedia Meta-Wiki에 회원가입하신 것을 환영합니다! 이 사이트는 모든 위키미디어 프로젝트들 간의 상호조정(coordinate)과 토론을 위한 공간입니다. 우리의 정책을 보면, 도움이 되실 겁니다. 만약 번역에 관심이 있으시다면, Meta:Babylon을 방문해 보세요. 또한 Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub 을 사용하실 수도 있습니다. (사용하시기 전에 바벨의 사용설명란을 먼저 읽어주세요). 만약 궁금한 것이 있으시면, talk page에 질문을 올려주세요. 즐거운 편집이 되시길 바랍니다!

Hai MarsRover, dan selamat datang ke Meta-Wiki Wikimedia! Laman web ini adalah untuk mengkoordinasikan dan membincangkan segala Projek-projek Wikimedia. Anda boleh mendapati bahawa membaca laman polisi kita adalah berfaedah. Jika anda berminat dalam membuat penterjemahan, sila melawat Meta:Babylon. Anda juga boleh meninggalkan pesanan di Meta:Babel atau Meta:Metapub (sila baca panduan di atas laman yang berkenaan sebelum meninggalkan pesanan). Jika anda mahu, tanyalah soalan di laman perbualan saya. Selamat menyunting!

Hallo MarsRover, en welkom op de Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Deze website is voor het coördineren en bespreken van alle Wikimedia-projecten. Waarschijnlijk vind je het handig om onze beleidpagina te lezen. Als je geïnteresseerd bent in het vertalen van teksten, ga da naar Meta:Babylon. Je kunt ook een bericht achterlaten op Meta:Babel of Meta:Metapub (lees wel de instructies aan het begin van de pagina voordat je een bericht achterlaat). Als je nog vragen hebt stel ze me dan op mijn overlegpagina. Veel plezier met bewerken!

Hei MarsRover, og velkommen til Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Denne siden er til for å diskutere og samordne alle Wikimediaprosjektene. Vil du vite mer om siden, kan vår policy-side komme til nytte. Er du interessert i å hjelpe til med oversettelser, besøk Meta:Babylon. Du kan også legge igjen en beskjed på Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub (vær vennlig og les instruksjonene øverst på siden før du skriver noe der). Hvis du vil, er du velkommen til å stille spørsmål på min diskusjonsside. God redigering!

Cześć MarsRover i witaj w projekcie Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Ta strona została stworzona do koordynacji i dyskusji nad wszystkimi projektami Fundacji Wikimedia. Proszę Cię o przeczytanie naszych zasad. Jeżeli chcesz się zając tłumaczeniem stron, odwiedź Meta:Babylon. Możesz również zostawić notkę na stronie Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (proszę jednak, abyś najpierw przeczytał instrukcje na górze tej strony). Jeżeli będziesz potrzebował pomocy zostaw komentarz na mojej stronie dyskusji. Miłego edytowania!

Olá MarsRover! Seja bem-vindo ao Meta! Este site/sítio é dedicado à discussão e à coordenação de todos os demais projetos da Fundação Wikimedia. Talvez lhe seja útil ler a página contendo a nossa política (em inglês) antes de começar a editar. Se tiver dúvidas, sinta-se à vontade para me fazer perguntas em minha página de discussão, ou deixe uma mensagem para toda a comunidade na Babel, Meta:Metapub, a versão do Meta da Esplanada. Boa sorte!

Ciao MarsRover, şi bine aţi venit la Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Acest website este pentru coordonarea şi discuţiile tuturor proiectelor Wikimedia. Este folositor să citiţi pagina despre politica noastră.. Dacă sunteţi interesaţi de traducere, vizita-ţi Meta:Babylon. De asemenea puteţi lasa o notă pe Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (vă rugăm citiţi instrucţiunile de la începutul paginii înainte de a posta acolo). Dacă ai întrebări, nu ezita să mă întrebi pe pagina mea de discuţii talk page. Editare cu succes!

Здравствуйте, MarsRover, и добро пожаловать на Мета-вики фонда Викимедиа! Этот сайт предназначен для координации и обсуждения вопросов, связанных со всеми проектами фонда. Для начала предлагаю ознакомиться с правилами этого проекта. Если Вы заинтересованы в работе над переводами страниц Мета-вики и других материалов, посетите Meta:Babylon. Вы также можете обсудить различные вопросы на странице Meta:Babel или Meta:Metapub (пожалуйста, ознакомьтесь с инструкцией сверху, прежде чем писать). Если возникнут вопросы, не бойтесь задавать их мне на моей странице обсуждения. Удачи!

Tjeta MarsRover, dhe mirësevin në Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Ky vënd i rrjetës është për të koordinuar dhe diskutuar çdo projekt të Wikimediës. Mund ta gjësh të dobishme faqet e politikës sonë. Në qoftë se je duke interesuar në përkthime, vizitò Meta:Babylon. Mund të lësh një shënim në Meta:Babel ose Meta:Metapub (të lutem të lexosh përdorimet në fillim të fletës para se të postosh atje). Në qoftë se do, ndihu i/e lirë të më bsh pyetje në faqen time të diskutimit. Të auguroj një redaktim të këndshëm!

Здраво MarsRover, и добро дошли на Викимедијин мета-вики! Овај сајт служи за координацију и дискусију око Викимедијиних пројеката. Вероватно ће Вам бити корисно да прочитате наше странице везане за политику рада. Ако сте заинтересовани за превођење, посетите Meta:Babylon. Можете такође и оставити поруку на страници Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub (молимо погледајте упутства на врху те странице пре него што пошаљете свој коментар тамо). Ако имате неко питање, можете да ми поставите на мојој страници за разговор. Срећно уређивање!

Hej MarsRover, och välkommen till Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Meta är till för att diskutera och samordna alla Wikimedias projekt. Vill du veta mer om webbplatsen, kan vår policy-sida komma väl till pass. Är du intresserad av att hjälpa till med översättningar, besök Meta:Babylon. Du kan skriva diskussionsinlägg på Meta:Babel eller Meta:Metapub (läs instruktionerna överst på sidan innan du skriver något där). Om du vill, är du välkommen att ställa frågor på min diskussionssida. Lycka till med redigerandet!

வணக்கம் MarsRover, விக்கிமீடியா மேல்விக்கி! இற்கு நல்வரவு. இவ்விணையத்தளமானது கூட்டாகச் சேர்ந்து விடயங்களை விவாதிப்பதற்கென உருவாக்கப் பட்டது. விக்கித்திட்டங்கள். நீங்கள் எங்களின் பாலிசிகளையும் பாலிசி பக்கம் படித்தறியலாம். நீங்கள் மொழிபெயர்பில் ஆர்வமுடையவராகின், Meta:Babylon ஐப் பார்வையிடவும். நீங்கள் Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub இல் குறிப்பொன்றையும் விட்டுச் செல்லலாம். (பக்கத்தின் மேலேயிருக்கும் அறிவுறுத்தல்களை வாசித்தபின்னரே அங்கே செய்திகளை இடவும்). நீங்கள் விரும்பினால் எனது பக்கத்தில் செய்தியொன்றை விடவும் talk page. உங்கள் ஆக்கங்களை வரவேற்கின்றோம்!

MarsRover, 你好!歡迎光臨維基媒體元維基!這個網站是為協調和討論所有維基媒體項目而設。我們的政策頁可能對您有用。如果您有興趣協助翻譯工作, 請參觀Meta:Babylon。你可在 Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub 留下口訊 (張貼之前請先讀該頁上指示)。若有問題, 請在我的討論頁問我 。祝
編安!

Also, as an aside, can you change your sig to link to your userpage here, instead of on en.wp? There's no reason for someone to go there to contact you about issues here, and you can set your preferences to receive an email when somebody leaves you a message (so you won't need to check for messages at all). Thanks! EVula // talk // 05:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

"weight" for Malayalam language[edit]

Please change the weight of Malayalam language (ml) to 1.1 while listing Wikipedias by samples of articles. I have posted the calculation here --Jacob 12:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Vietnamese Wikipedia[edit]

Can you give me list of stub, medium and long sample articles at Vietnamese Wikipedia? Thank you.Quangbao 12:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC) Please give me the full list of List of Wikipedias by sample of articles/Neglected#vi Tiếng Việt. Thanks.Quangbao 02:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

What happened with en:Addiction? It isn't a sample article, it's a disambiguation page. 123.19.184.26 01:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

List of articles every Wikipedia should[edit]

I adding 30 military leaders of WW II, --Manuel Trujillo Berges 21:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC) (an:Usuario:Manuel Trujillo Berges)

I adding new articles, I will be adding more in coming days: nineteenth-century military and a list of 25 prominent battles. --Manuel Trujillo Berges 17:28, 4 October 2010 (UTC) (an:Usuario:Manuel Trujillo Berges)
I see you do not need my help, so let it be. I do not see what the criteria, so I will not waste time on it. --Manuel Trujillo Berges 13:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC) (an:Usuario:Manuel Trujillo Berges)

December 2010 update[edit]

Hello. I've just found out that your script has failed to count Growth for be: and be-x-old:. What's the reason? :) Wizardist 17:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Sorry for bothering you, but that was me who asked you to increase the weight of Belarusian (be-x-old) wiki to 1.4 in the List of Wikipedias by sample of articles. Frankly speaking I didn't suppose it would result in the Growth counted incorrectly and set to "n/a". As you can see from the difference for be: and be-x-old: the community of the latter one made a big step forward to get a Growth award in November, but now the team is disappointed, as the the Growth results made in November appear to be lost. Maybe is it possible to set the Weight for be-x-old: for November back to 1.0, recount the growth and then get "n/a" for December, when the Growth results aren't so painful? —zedlik 00:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I ran it with the old weight and be-x-old: would been +3.27 growth and be: would have been just +0.09 growth. How about I just change be-x-old growth from "n/a" to +5.55 and explain with a footnote that you would have still had +3.27 anyway? Doing this will bump ja: off the podium so hopefully they don't complain :) -MarsRover
They are big enough to ignore such a bump. :) 3.27 is good. It was proposed to fallback the Weight this month and get n/a on January 1, 2011. Wizardist 08:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I suppose the variant you suggested would be great. Maybe it is even worth putting +3.27 as a primary growth value as it is the real value with the explanation that "mathematical" growth was +5.55 but it included the change of the Weight, or something like this. I've discussed this with Wizardist, he agreed that this variant would suit best. I hope ja: won't really complain as impartially they got the 4th place :) —zedlik 14:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed the update, many thanks for your help! —zedlik 03:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Lezgian Wikipedia[edit]

What's wrong with Lezgian Wikipedia? I think that you made ​​a mistake in counting. Here is the list of articles with page size. Over 20 articles have a size more than 10 kilobytes. Or we do something wrong and we must count without interwikis list? And where can I find full list of Lezgi 1000 articles, because I found just 125 articles, but in this list figured 129?--Soul Train (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

It seems that something has gone wrong ... in july list at ca.wiki is showed an absent article, looking at List_of_Wikipedias_by_sample_of_articles/Absent_Articles#ca_Català are showed two , both are present and have interwikis at english article. (HIV/AIDS indicates an error in the absent articles page) --Mafoso (talk) 07:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Why Lezgi Wikipedia have just 0,1 points in September!? We created 11 articles in September. Also article about Rome was expanded by uzer Aslan4ik to more than 100 kb. I undo your revision for October, because there's absolutely false data. 11 article is at least 0.11 points, and Rome can expand for at least 0.2.--Soul Train (talk) 23:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Your Rome is actually counted as a large article (lez.wp articles > 30k chars). --MarsRover 15:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

As long as you do not give me detailed information for the growth, I can't accept this data. I want to know the real algorithm, and that there are clear rules to update the rankings.--Soul Train (talk) 23:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Install python and run the following script at the beginning of the month: List of Wikipedias by sample of articles/Source code. You will get the same results I get. --MarsRover 15:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, list of Neglected articles - there has been one existing article, and 9 "red" articles. So what we see now? M. Gandi allready created, and V. Lenin created at 26 September. You should fix this bug, your program working wrong.--Soul Train (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

You need the en.wp interwiki link back to lez.wp for the scoring program to know about whatever was created. I start the score program around the 1st of the month so all the iw link need to be correct by then (Gandi link was added late). If given enough time, Bots will eventually add the iw links which is probably why earlier months were fine. This is the reason your score wasn't as high as you thought. Next month calculation will include the non-counted articles in both the score and growth. But if you want to re-run it now, just run the program above. --MarsRover 15:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Weight of kk.wiki and az.wiki[edit]

Hi. Many Turkish, Azeri and Kazakh words are similar. And the length of many of the sentences are identical. Therefore, Azeri and Kazakh should be "1.3" as the Turkish. --Bolatbek (talk) 14:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Kazakh language based on cyrillic script. Even if these languages ​​are very similar, they are not equal in size.--Soul Train (talk) 06:37, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
For every Wikipedia, the articles in this sample list are retrieved (based on interwiki links from the English Wikipedia) and the number of characters is calculated (minus "comments" and the "interwiki" text at the bottom of the article).
Calculated the size (byte) or number of characters? I think that the number of characters. Examples,

Gömleğimin rengine uygun kravatınız var mı? ~38 character
Көйлегімнің түсіне сәйкес галстугыңыз бар ма? ~39 character

Kış mevsimi, yılın en soğuk mevsimi. Kışın kar yağıyor. Çocuklar, kar topu oynuyorlar, kardan adam yapıyor, buzda kayıyorlar. Bu mevsimde insanlar çok hasta oluyorlar. Hastalanmamak için dikkatli olmamız gerekiyor. ~216 character
Қыс маусымы, жылдың ең салқын маусымы. Қыста қар жауады. Балалар, қар лақтырып ойнайды, қардан адам жасайды, мұзда сырғанайды. Осы маусымда адамдар жиі науқастанады. Науқастанбау үшін абай болуымыз керек. ~203 character

--Bolatbek (talk) 14:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Kazakh and Azeri have millions of speakers so there should be a Bible translation on the Internet. Just need to find a published text for "The Tower of Babel (Genesis 11: 1-9)". Also, Soultrain is right. If they have different character sets then they probably will have different weights. Croation and Serbian have different weights even though they are very similar languages. --MarsRover 20:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I found them.
Kazakh Cyrillic 908 char ~1.3
Azeri 956 char ~1.2
--Bolatbek (talk) 12:00, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

False report of stubs[edit]

In the last update of List of Wikipedias by sample of articles/Stubs#ru Русский, there is a false report that Russian article for en:Umar is a stub. On November 1 16:32 UTC it was renamed from ru:Умар ибн Хаттаб to ru:Умар ибн аль-Хаттаб, but there was a redirect from the former name to the present one, and the size was suffucient for an "article". I though that the redirects are processed correctly automatically by the statistical program. Isn't it so? - Ace111 (talk) 16:09, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes and no, It is known limitation that the program doesn't handle localized REDIRECT statements. For example, it can understand this #REDIRECT [[Умар ибн аль-Хаттаб]] but not this #перенаправление [[Умар ибн аль-Хаттаб]]. I am not sure how to fix this without include 200+ translations of REDIRECT to the program. If you can fix this program, let me know. --MarsRover 19:54, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, I forgot that renaming uses by default the localized magic word. Then, there are two possible ways to deal with this:
1) One can build a table of 200+ translations. This can be done in automatic way. E.g. by something like:
lynx -dump -width=999 http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/MessagesRu_8php_source.html | grep "'redirect'"
which gives: ... '#перенаправление', '#перенапр', '#REDIRECT' ...
lynx -dump -width=999 http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/MessagesEs_8php_source.html | grep "'redirect'"
which gives: ... '#REDIRECCIÓN', '#REDIRECCION', '#REDIRECT' ...
One can simply dump all these words to some list and check whether the file starts from #<some word> and this word is found in the list.
2) Or by recognizing the format of the file consisting of only one line: #<some word>[[<string>]] . I don't think that this format can mean something else but redirection. - Ace111 (talk) 20:33, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Updating the List of Wikipedias by sample of articles[edit]

Hi, the list was not updated in February. Are you the only person who does the updating?--Drajay1976 (talk) 07:43, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I assume it's because the system of interwikis is currently undergoing a redesign, breaking the automation. What's the plan, MarsRover? Is it possible to make a partial update without Wikipedias that implemented Wikidata already (:it, :hu) or do you prefer to wait until everything is done? — Yerpo Eh? 09:49, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
All articles still have interwikis, so no changes are necessary for making the update. — Ace111 (talk) 12:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, I was sure I saw them being removed over at :hu, but now I can't find that article. Nevermind, then. — Yerpo Eh? 14:16, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I was just busy in real life. --MarsRover 00:48, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Just an aside: It looks like the January prizes (for December 2012) have disappeared from List of Wikipedias by sample of articles/Growth. – Umbert' (talk) 21:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I will take a look at it. --MarsRover 00:48, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
It looks like you fixed it, perfect. – Umbert' (talk) 18:27, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Problems with interwikis[edit]

Hello, English Wikipedia starts to remove interwikis in its articles. Is it clear how to extract interwikis in a new way? — Ace111 (talk) 17:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

The interwikis are located here. But, you are correct it is not clear how to extract the the information. There are supposed to be new APIs available. --MarsRover 18:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Btw, new APIs for wikidata --MarsRover 21:45, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I made some adjustments to MakeScoreTable.py that should make it get the iw-links from Wikidata. Boivie (talk) 22:51, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll try it out at the end of the month. --MarsRover 01:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems that the new code doesn't take into account the interwikis which are in the articles in the English Wikipedia. Today's report lists 2 stubs in Russian Wikipedia which in reality is not the case. You can check that en:Abbasid Caliphate links to ru:Аббасидский халифат and en:Dentistry links to ru:Стоматология (both articles have weighted size more than 10k). Wikidata assignments (d:Q12536, d:Q12128) are overwritten by the interwikis in the English articles. Could the present code be corrected for this? — Ace111 (talk) 22:38, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Have errors with chinese wiki(zh)(0->68 stubs), korean wiki(ko)(0->45 stubs)and japanese wiki(ja)(0->59 stubs).--Towerman (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
It would be possible to get iw-links from enwiki as well. But I'm not sure it's the best thing. I think it's better to base the comparison of a Wikidata item, than on an enwiki article. The problem with the chinese, korean and japanese stubs however seems to be a bug that has to be fixed. Sorry about that. Boivie (talk) 21:33, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Okey, I found a bug. Boivie (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

The official way of using Wikidata is that "existing language links in the wikitext will continue to work and overwrite links from Wikidata" (http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/03/06/wikidata-now-live-on-all-wikipedias/). So this issue will arise again and again for different Wikipedias unless the bug is fixed. To get interwiki links from enwiki article it necessary to use both Wikidata and corrections in the article itself. — Ace111 (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Changing to wikidata items instead of enwiki articles in List of articles every Wikipedia should have[edit]

A discussion at List of articles every Wikipedia should have suggested that that page should be based on wikidata items instead of enwiki articles. So I made some changes to the code, and tested the changes. It seems to be working as expected. Boivie (talk) 19:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks I will use it next time. --MarsRover 21:20, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Question about weight[edit]

Hi MarsRover, I don't understand how it works the system of the weight on the list of Wikipedias by sample of articles. Here say that the article architecture has 29,478 bytes, but if we multiply the article size at that moment (27,443 bytes) by Galician weight (1.1) give as result 30,187, not 29,478. Do you know why exist that difference? Regards. --JaviP96 talk me 20:22, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

The measurement is in characters (not bytes). So, even through wikipedia says its 27,443 bytes, it really is 26,798 characters and translates to 29,478 weighted characters. To figure out the characters you can cut and paste into a word processor like WinWord. Also, the calculation excludes interwiki links and comments from the total character count. --MarsRover 01:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I have another question, according to this, weight for gl wiki is 992 characters and for es wiki is 1095 characters, but say that both of them multiply characters of the article by 1.1. Are there some intermediate step? I think there should be, because there are a big difference. --JaviP96 talk me 18:33, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
I am not sure where "992" came from. I have 1020 characters for the first Galician version and 1041 for the second (eg. cut and paste into Winword and look at the character count including spaces). That is 1.13921568627451 or 1.116234390009606. And we round to one decimal place. --MarsRover 20:42, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
With spaces, Spanish version has more than 1150 characters, you can check here. So 992 should be correct to Galician (if I'm not wrong the weight would be 1.17). About the second version I think that is unreliable, because it even has orthographic mistakes (*construir, *atoparonse, *imo-los). --JaviP96 talk me 22:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that 992 sounds correct if you remove the starting and trailing space and then all the leading spaces for each sentence. I am not sure we are 100% consistent with that procedure when calculating other languages. But we did that with English so I guess that should be the standard way we do it. --MarsRover 01:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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So Galician weight is 1.17, and should be round it off to 1.2, not to 1.1, isn't it? --JaviP96 talk me 06:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds right. But have to wait until next month to do the change. --MarsRover 19:13, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Don't worry, that's not a problem. Thanks you for all. --JaviP96 talk me 20:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Growth[edit]

Hi MarsRover, this month Galician wiki grows 0.98 as much as zh-yue wiki, but it doesn't appear in the 3rd Place here. What do you do when two wikis have the same growth?

There is other thing more that I have to tell you, some small wikis are cheating, they use an automatic translator to increase the size of theirs articles. In ce wiki ce:User:Simba16 is creating a lot of articles from the list (even 7 on the same day!!) with more or less 60,000 bytes. Here you have some examples: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

In uz wiki they used (not in this month) a bot to create and increase the size of this articles this articles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

In my opinion we should do something with these wikis. What do you think? --JaviP96 (talk) 10:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

It seems that ce:User:Simba16 translates articles from the Russian Wikipedia. The articles are currenty not large, most of the byte count is from a large untranslated Russian text, which is commented out and anyway not counted by the used script. The Uzbek Wikipedia seems to use the texts from en:National Encyclopedia of Uzbekistan which is also a legal way of extending the articles. -- Ace111 (talk) 22:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, I don't see anything wrong with ce.wp or uz.wp but I don't know for sure they are using the native language. If you see non-native text (eg. Russian) then comment the text out of the article and it won't be counted in the calculation. --MarsRover 19:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
The growth was not exactly equal, the comparison used more decimal places than displyed:
  • zh-yue 15.988888888888888888888888888889 - 15.01 = 0.978888888888888888888888888889
  • gl 37.266666666666666666666666666667 - 36.29 = 0.976666666666666666666666666667
--MarsRover 19:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
About uz. wp I see that they paste all the article in Russian language in them articles, and I don't understand that, and about ce. wp if a bot copy the text from en:National Encyclopedia of Uzbekistan, this text doesn't has any wikipedia format. Probably there are similar Encyclopedias in most languages, if all wikipedias do that, this list will be useless. --JaviP96 (talk) 09:58, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Adding wiki formatting to existing text is fairly easy, IMHO. You can even have people do that who don't know the language. Copying from an existing encyclopedia is also fine as long as they are not violating copy rights and its the correct language. English WP even copied from an old Encyclopedia Britannica. --MarsRover 20:21, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Tyva Wikipedia (tyv)[edit]

Hello, there is no Tyva Wikipedia (tyv) in the List of Wikipedias by sample of articles. Can you add it and recalculate results in September?--Soul Train (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I tried to add tyv: but the "pywikipedia" framework hasn't been updated yet. So, it just comes up as unknown wiki. --MarsRover 03:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Who can fix this bug? pywikipedia developers?--Soul Train (talk) 07:52, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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Article size[edit]

Hi MarsRover, I am from Vietnamese Wikipedia, I calculate the size of article (by this template) but it may not give a right number. Last month, I expanded more than 60 articles from stub ones, but only 30 articles were recorded in List of Wikipedias by sample of articles. Could you please explain about it? Thank in advance!--Cheers! (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

That template is measuring the article in bytes and not characters. Unfortunately the template syntax is not elaborate enough to get you the exact number in characters. But if you look at the ratio between bytes and characters you can see what number to multiple by to get close.
  • Sensory System (735 characters) = 844 bytes = 1.148 bytes per character
  • Cholera (29598 characters) = 35404 bytes = 1.196 bytes per character
  • Vatican City (28713 characters) = 33711 bytes = 1.174 bytes per character
For example, make sure your Vietnamese articles have more than 12,000 bytes and they will be articles. Also, increase to 36,000 bytes and they will be long articles.
--MarsRover 22:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Subpages[edit]

Hi! It seems that not all subpages of List of Wikipedias by sample of articles are updated in April. /Growth, /Long Articles etc. are not updated. Yurij Karcev (talk) 17:14, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I will fix those for the next update. --MarsRover 18:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)