User talk:Oscar/Archive

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Admin Abuse[edit]

Oscar, A group of editors and admins refuse to allow a balance of material and links. Gamaliel, Robert McClenon, Jpgordon, JamesMLane, and a few others now own the pages. Any attempts to modify the page is met by thier gang edits. They allow only links to pro kennedy sites, none to negative sites regardless of the wealth of content they may provide. They push their pov on all of the Kennedy pages. It's because of editors and admins like these that Wikipedia is doubted as a source. ie; the New York Times published policy against Wiki as a source. The group refuses to agree to consensus when it is against them. I've now been blocked by Jpgordon in an abuse of admin priv. My act was not vandalism, it's simply not agreeing with their one sided pov. I am not willing to endure any more arb or mediation. These guys are out of control. 24.147.103.146 05:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Opheffing blokkade[edit]

Oscar, hef alsjeblieft die blokkade op. Wikix 18:35, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

WMF page[edit]

Hi, Now I found the WMF Home translated on February[1] but not uploaded to the site ;-X After Foeke finished it, this is left almost two months. And as you know, there have been many things ... the site was renewed and big news have come. Would you add necesarry changes to Foeke's translation and upload them (Home itself and news-nl template with Yahoo! hosting), cheers. --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 19:02, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your participation to Election translation. I am very grateful. We will be able to prepare some documens in the early of this week so I thank you for your cooperation in advance ;-) If you have a time, would you like to care for WQ2 (it lacks Table of Content in netherlands so it can't be released currently) and WMF Home renewal? Cheers, --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 09:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

picking up on my duties again, i will certainly do my best aphaia :-) and see to it tomorrow, ok? oscar 00:16, 10 May 2005 (UTC) (if you can provide me with more specific linx, that would certainly help as to the work to be done...)[reply]

Dank u wel! Please give a look to Translation requests/WQ/2#/Nl:. Translation is almost done but we lack some important pages like

All links are available on Translation requests/WQ/2#/Nl:.

In the next week the election document will be available (in Thursday I hope). Your coordination will be appreciated too ;-)
Cheers, --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 19:52, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo en verzoek[edit]

Hoi Oscar! Leuk je hier te kunnen schrijven. Ik heb meteen een verzoek; jij weet natuurlijk meteen op welke pagina je dat kunt zetten ;-)

Verzoek (in het Engels):

Request for interwiki coordination[edit]

As Wikipedia grows, maintenance of interwiki links gets more demanding. This has everything tot do with the equation k = n * ( n - 1 ), in which k equals the number of interwiki links for one article, and n equals the number of languages in which an article appears in a given project. It can be explained as articles in n languages, each with n-1 links to all other languages.

As soon as n > 10, the value of k will be greater than 100. Any error in one of the k interwiki links will make automatic (interwikibot) maintenance difficult. The bot will stop, and the operator needs to sort things out manually, or ignore the interwiki links for the given article, thus leaving the errors.

One of the factors contributing to this problem are shortcomings of the current interwikibot, that will first add all interwiki links, and after that, present them one by one to the operator. A more advanced way would be to ask the user what to do at every interwiki that links back to a different article in the language the bot is running.

There are more technical problems that cause error propagation by interwikibots, but there is more to the problem than just the technical side.

Interwiki maintenance requires coordination between users and bot operators on every language of a project. An interwiki maintenance page on meta, where they can discuss and coordinate their work would be of great help. This page can include, but should not be limited to, warning files to be processed by other members, remarks concerning local interwiki formats, and requests for help solving specific interwiki problems.

Once such a page exists, it should be announced, so that people who want to contribute can join.

Quistnix 10:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Het blijkt dat er een (matig onderhouden) pagina bestaat op Interwiki bot, maar men beseft niet dat dit probleem kwadratisch met de groei toeneemt :-( -- Quistnix 18:19, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
hoi quistnix, zoals gezegd ben ik druk geweest met de holland open en had nog wat tegenslagen waarover ad je kan bijpraten. hoezo "matig onderhouden"? maar wel dank voor de link he :-) oscar 22:58, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Election[edit]

Hello Oscar, sorry for late but now the election begins ;-) Would you like to translate Elections for the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, 2005/En into Dutch either here or on a Dutch project and post the Dutch version to each local project? Thanks. --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 16:11, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

yes, Fruggo also notified me, we will both look to it in fact. greetz, oscar 23:01, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That's great. After you finish translation, please list it on Election notice translations 2005. Cheers, --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 16:38, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your team works! Aph.

Wikimania[edit]

Dutch version of Sponsor list is not yet available. Would you like to have a look to the site and make it? Cheers, --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 07:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

did it :-) thx for the help on irc oscar 10:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

technology and art[edit]

Somewhere between science and art? that would be a great presentation, oscar :) Are you still interested in speaking at Wikimania? See Wikimania:Roundtables...
i have been so absorbed into so many things, but i am glad you remind (and invite) me sj :-) i will look into it in the coming week. how much time is there left to decide? oscar 20:03, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fair use[edit]

Thank you for the quick answer! But what do you mean by "generally"? In which cases is it accepted? Mschlindwein

Danielm pointed out the reasons, i am not aware of any exceptions. oscar 09:50, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi,

thank you very much for the information. Until now, among the "big" wikipedias, only the english, french and italian accept fair use. I understand that the english do so, but the french and italian? It is really a pity... Fair use is not accepted in:

We do not accept it, but we will vote again in march 2006, and some new users want to see it adopted, while the "old" ones's maintain the idea of a really and totally free wikipedia. If other wikipedias decide not to accept it anymore it would boost the movement! Thanks! Mschlindwein

no problem, you are most welcome :-) oscar 21:17, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dbl2010bot[edit]

Thx for for the bot flag for Dbl2010bot at Turkish wikipedia. --DBL2010talk 00:01, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

hoşgeldinınız :-) oscar 00:13, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
hoşgeldiniz (formal), hoşgeldin (unformal),,,,, ;) --DBL2010talk 13:07, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
anladım! ;-) oscar 13:12, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Chess[edit]

The bottom chess board is incorrect; see en:User:Tparker393/Chess for correction. Notice the placement of the kings and queens from Black's perspective. 205.217.105.2 12:28, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thanx for correcting it on nl :-) oscar 12:39, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Macedonian Wiki[edit]

Hello, I would ask why I was "forbidden" to have a bureaucrat status on the Macedonian Wikipedia - Requests_for_permissions#Macedonian_Wikipedia. I had no idea that I had to inform the community for this (moreover, the Macedonian Wikipedia doesn't have much of a community). I enjoy the full support of the other 2 sysops, and I enjoy the support of one of the Serbian Wikipedia administrators Millosh, as well. In my 4 months activity on Wikipedia, I've made a great range of contributions, from editing and writing new articles, ordinary sysop work, translating the interface (we're waiting for it to be updated, 3 weeks have passed!), main page, templates etc. However, I've announced my request to become a bureaucrat here, so will you please let me be? :-) --FlavrSavr 11:32, 30 Jun 2005 (UTC)

hi :-) please see requests for permissions. oscar 23:32, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Me again. That week you were talking about here has passed :-). Regards. --FlavrSavr 9 July 2005 12:42 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

For fixing Shizhao's stewardship. Those dang command-line interfaces... +sj | Translate the Quarto |+ 22:02, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

no problem samuel :-) oscar 22:34, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing vandalism to the Chinuk Wawa test wikipidiE, too! --Haruo 08:00, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

you're welcome, haruo :-) oscar 11:25, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

inform me too on what you are doing[edit]

I have been adding the following to the user discussion pages of people who have voted but do not have a link on their user page to the wiki they edit most:

To vote, you need a registered account here on Meta with a link on your meta user page to the user page on the wiki you edit most. JWSurf 15:20, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if some of the people voting "yes" for wikiversity are students who are not wiki editors.

thx for explaining JWSurf :-) oscar 17:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

vroeg op[edit]

Jij was vroeg op vanmorgen oscar, bedankt voor je melding. Ik wens je een fijne dag, indian summer lijkt het wel. Heerlijk. Ellywa 07:09, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ja he? hartelijke groeten van oscar 23:22, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

behave[edit]

welcome aleichem, please behave ;-) oscar 13:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

???

waarom staan haarlem etc en de andere provinciehoofdsteden hier niet bij en schalkwijk en roermand wel? Aleichem 09:12, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Teşekkür ederim[edit]

Thank you for bureaucrat level. If you remember thıs was an old ıssue and you sugested me to have some support from community. Thanks for advice. Btw the message u left at permission request page "kedini iyi bak" means take care of your cat. :DDDDD It should be "kendine iyi bak" which means take care of yourself. ...... Kendine iyi bak. --Dbl2010talk 13:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC) [reply]

lol :-) but you understood what i meant eh? bir sey degil btw. oscar 14:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thx again. --Dbl2010talk 16:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC) [reply]

oscar bows deeply :-) 21:04, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thx again and again and again and again and again. :) --Dbl2010talk 16:40, 24 October 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Removal of PCM request[edit]

Oscar, I didn't understand either your last comment nor this. I'll wait for an explanation before undo your change. Nuno Tavares 18:53, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Now I notice that I missed the signature. That IP is mine, of course, I was using a borrowed laptop. And just noticed the archived text. Can you explain the reasons why it was denied, since the community has approved - alias, part of the community has asked for it on some occasions. Nuno Tavares 22:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
i am trying to contact you at your talkpage. oscar 23:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just added oscar-nl to Skype. I hope I didn't anything wrong. Nuno Tavares 21:06, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, the channel is #pt.wikipedia, i think. But I don't use IRC. Nuno Tavares 21:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
skype is fine, thx nuno, we will talk soon i guess :-) greetz, oscar 23:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bot flag[edit]

Hi Oscar, sorry to bother you, but could you flag my bot en:User:Bluebot, it has been widely accepted by the community and over 2 weeks has made thousands of edits, thus it is fairly important for it to be flagged quickly to stop it cloging up the recent changes. thanks! Bluemoose 15:34, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Opheffing blokkade #2[edit]

Hey beetje jammer dat je mijn account geblokt hebt, vooral omdat ik mezelf nu niet kan verantwoorden op mijn eigen talk pagina en de enige normale pagina die ik heb verandert de pagina neger is, en dat beargumenteerd gedaan heb, bovendien degene die mijn wijziging ongedaan had gemaakt daarbij heeft toegegeven dat gedaan te hebben omdat ik een anonieme gebruiker was, en niet om inhoudelijke redenen. Waardoor het mij mijn inziens heel redelijk leek het nog eens te wijzigen. Kan ik op enige andere manier met je praten om deze situatie op te lossen? Alvast bedankt, --137.120.211.227 00:16, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ik deblokkeer je, mits je je redelijk opstelt en gedraagt, ok? oscar 00:34, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Natuurlijk --137.120.211.227 00:59, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
gebeurd nu, goede morgen btw. oscar 06:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Pff je mist wel je 8 uurtjes slaap deze nacht :| Iig, lijkt me beste om op mijn talkpage verder te praten.--137.120.211.227 11:36, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

test[edit]

this is a test. oscar 18:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

this is a test. <script>alert("evil")</script> 19:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

done testing, all is well :-) oscar 19:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

¿Sure that "I'm not you"?[edit]

xD. I'm a Venezuelan collaborator of the Spanish Wikipedia, they usually call me "Oscar point", by my nickname, ¡Regards!--Oscar . 01:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ic, well nice to meet you here :-) oscar 11:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Jcbbot[edit]

Oscar, sorry for the delay. I was hoping someone would say something. The only persons that care about it are away (as I've been lately) or non-interested in such a debate, so the discussion ended fruitless. Anyway, we shall turn to the previous state of acceptance, as I don't want to be pointed out as the unique person against it, otherwise we would need to stop other bots. IOW, I can't rely on the indifference of the community to delegate such a (disputed) responsability. If no one objects, consider my vote neutral, and grant the flag to the bot. Best regards, Nuno Tavares 01:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


SPAMMING problem[edit]

Hello oscar, this is Ruben from Armenian Wikibooks (temp. sysop). Someone is spamming the website from different IP addresses, so I cannot stop him/her. What should be done to stop this? (I clean up the page every time, but after 10 minutes, it's again filled with inappropriate content)

Thanks, Ruben.

hi ruben, this is a known spammer which i've seen before. his site http://www [dot] zya9 [dot] info has been blocked and possibly mentioned at the blacklist imho. do not despair, i know this vandal switches attention, so he/she will most probably not return in the near future (but i think blocking indefinitely may be better than 3 days btw), grtz, oscar 01:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
You see I didn't block him/her indefinitely, cause I thought someone may also use that IP address, cause it was owned by an ISP. Next time I'll block him/her indefinitely. Thanks for response. --Ruben

about request[edit]

Hi Oscar, I saw you are online currently , please review my request for sysop on id.wikibooks. Need to start the work now. thanks. Borgx 08:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

as i can see no support yet, i have to wait a little longer. but i promise you i will look into it later, ok? oscar 08:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm afraid it is difficult for me to gain support, because everybody is focusing on wikipedia. You can see from recent changes history, there is only very few user there. But it's ok. Thanks. Borgx 08:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for bot status[edit]

Could you please take a look and resolve some requests: some are pending more then 2 weeks. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 11:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection[edit]

I've left this message on your Meta page as well, but I wanted to make sure you got this. At Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, a couple users and myself are attempting to gather consensus about a possible change in editing. So as not to keep the community out of the loop, we've been posting to user talk pages, which seems to have worked. If you can add your thoughts to the talk page, it would be greatly appreciated. We've gone over a few issues, ranging from perception of anti-wiki to time limits, and recycling pagemove code, so you might want to check out #Rehashing to get up to speed. Thanks in advance, Mysekurity 21:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Older talk moved to Archive1.

kl.wikipedia.org[edit]

Hi Angela, there has been some vandalism on the Main Page for kl.wikipedia.org, there is only one sysop there (Danny) and he does not seem to response. Could you lock the main page? It would still be possible to edit the page because it only contains a Template:Main Page. b. regards Quackor 15:08, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too keen on protecting it since there are no active admins, and it would be off-putting to anyone who wants to develop this wiki. I've asked Danny to keep an eye on it since he's an admin there. I'll also ask Node-ue to watch it since he tries to monitor the inactive wikis. Angela 09:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of the page of Bulgarian user The Engineer[edit]

Hello Angela, I saw your explanation on the talk page of user The Engineer in Bulgarian Wiki. Sorry if it is rude but you've used a weasel term in it: "... number of members ...". How big this number is and of which users you've got a complaint. There is the user Emil in a personal conflict with him, and The Engineer is accusing him in being backed by an administrator and a founder of Bulgarian Wiki - Petko (admin ID Потребител:5ko, "pet" means five in Bulgarian). While I cannot accuse user Petko, I can assure you that user Emil is having conflicts not only with The Engineer (even I had to recall my ambassador).

Please make clear statement based on what you went for removal of adminship of The Engineer, and protection of his pages. The Bulgarian Wiki community is too small to waste any editor, and is among those who lost editors instead of getting more onboard. Bulgarian Wiki also is decreasing its pace. Right now I am not asking to reinstate the admin access but protection without clear, verifyable explanation is not good.

Regards, Bggoldie 13:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Posted also to en:.

replied at w:en:User talk:Bggoldie. Angela 14:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Requested check of use of checkuser rights[edit]

Angela, Today I was kicked off and banned from the #Wikipedia IRC channel by Kelly Martin. If you want the details of why, I am quite willing to explain, but I don't believe it is central to the point at hand. I have reason to suspect that Kelly Martin may have used her checkuser rights in order to identify what account I was using on IRC #Wikipedia, as no one else was booted off the channel prior to my being booted. I've never identified my IRC nick with my Wikipedia nick prior to this incident. With 200+ users on the channel, such accuracy in booting me seems...suspect. I would like a check to be done to determine if Kelly Martin ran a checkuser request against my en.wikipedia.org ID "Durin". I believe in your role as a steward you are capable of running such a check. Thanks in advance, --Durin 21:22, 5 December 2005 (UTC) (cc: Daniel Mayer, Anthere)[reply]

User wants sysop rights[edit]

This user made a request at the English Wikibooks about becoming an Admin on the Maori WB. Someone made the suggestion of forwarding this to a steward, so I thought I'd just let you know (if someone already hasn't). There doesn't seem to be much happening over at mi.WB, so I'm not sure what you can do. --Lord Voldemort 15:15, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Asking on Requests for permissions would be better than asking any steward directly. --Angela 00:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

fa.wikisource.org[edit]

Hi, I've been trying to set up a Persian (fa) subdomian for Wikisource. I read your response to a similar request for another language and contacted Brion via the online form. I haven't heard back in 2-3 weeks. I also filed a bug report here, no reaction so far. The project satisfies the conditions for a new Wikisource language (more here). I'd appriciate it if you could expediate things, it would be cool if we could start in 2005 (at least in name). Kaveh 14:18, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried email the Wikitech mailing list with this request? There should be someone there who can help. --Angela 00:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection[edit]

I'll leave this message on Wikipedia as well, but I wanted to make sure you got this. At Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, a couple users and myself are attempting to gather consensus about a possible change in editing. So as not to keep the community out of the loop, we've been posting to user talk pages, which seems to have worked. If you can add your thoughts to the talk page, it would be greatly appreciated. We've gone over a few issues, ranging from perception of anti-wiki to time limits, and recycling pagemove code, so you might want to check out #Rehashing to get up to speed. Thanks in advance, Mysekurity 21:21, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Translation of Interface into Bahasa Melayu (Malay Language)[edit]

Hi Angela, I have just translated fully the interface for the Malay language Wikipedia. Although the language was started on 12 August 2003, the interface was only partially translated.

I am unable to understand the guidelines given in MediaWiki localization. How do I go about making a patch and then submit? — PM Poon 21:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Are you an admin on that wiki? If so, translating using the MediaWiki namespace would be a quicker way of doing this. Do you have a way of getting files from CVS? It's hard to explain how to do this when I don't know what system you're using. Angela 00:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

test links regarding Interwiki map[edit]

  • Hallo Angela! I found the following prefixes for wiki's at Wikicities at Interwiki map:
Wikicities:, CreaturesWiki:, FinalFantasy, MozCom:, WikiFur:
  • If bugzilla:04285 – "provide accessibility of Wikipedia's sister projects trough wikipedia: interwiki prefix"
would be implemented one could reach wikicities:furry: (or at least with wikicities:furry:Main Page), wikicities:games: (or at least with wikicities:games:Main Page) and all other Wikicities wiki's. Now these links generate "Bad title's". The only need to add Interwiki's would be to make them shorter. Bests regards Gangleri | Th | T 23:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please, Mega Troll possibility needs to be looked at here[edit]

I am coming to you because there is nowhere else to go with this. I fear a mega troll has been able to so firmly entrench himself within wikinews with meatpuppets and sockpuppets that he has obtained virtual control of the site. Now he is attempting to expand his power into Wiktionary. [3]. He simply uses his authority and extreme time availability to wear down and force contributors who are in his way off the site. He has also managed to drive a wedge between Admins and non-admins (basically forming a club-like clique among admins) to the point where a reasonable Rfda; [4] fails with 6 admins opposing and 9 non-admins supporting the Rfda. Amgine's dedication toward prioritizing group loyalty is manifest with this edit of his; "Your approach to Wikinews, in my opinion, is focused on articles. This is a common approach, but probably not the most valuable. I suggest you reconsider that Wikinews is not about articles, but about developing and maintaining an online community; the articles are secondary. - Amgine / talk 14:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)". Amgine also uses multiple signatures leading to different sites and one that leads nowhere.

The administrative abuses are historical fact and are listed below and although the "troll" accusation is based on circumstantial evidence; I am also showing it at the bottom. The section below is from [5]


  • Regarding Amgine's activities as an administrator for en.wikinews, I have checked and double checked the information/links below and find the statements accompanying them to be true. Amgine abuses administrative authority consistently and has done so for at least 6 months. His user page comments even show he has a troll-like connection as an administrator with the project[6] as he openly announces that he has "left the project" while being the most active in terms of conflicts and blockings[7]; acting as a foreman or "boss" rather than in a collaborative fashion.
    • Here are the examples of administrative abuse. Amgine has had multiple long lasting disputes with many editors with Neutralizer being the most recent and intense. Amgine has not hesitated to abuse his admin powers by blocking/punishing editors like Neutralizer who disagree with him; even though wikinews guidelines clearly state that an admin should NOT block an editor with whom they are having a dispute (they should,instead, allow a different admin. to apply any necessary blocks to that editor). It now seems that the wikinews contributors can not get rid of Amgine no matter how hard they try; Amgine is able to deflect and explain away his misdeeds in a fashion that puts Shakespeare's "Artful Dodger" to shame. You may expect that he will become increasingly accusatory and employ vicious attack methods to get what he wants. Re Amgine; its a lot easier to get him in power than to get him out of power. Fair Warning !
    1. Amgine displayed his arrogance by summarily rejecting the resolution,suggestions of a mediator, Ilya (a wikinews Bureaucrat) after a mediation. "I do not accept your suggestion that I limit my administrative privilege use either to "vandalism or very clear violations of objective policies only, and to explicitly let some other admin deal with Neutralizer" or "submit a self-de-admin request." [8]
    2. Dan100's list.[9] of Amgine's "bullying and poor behaviour" (Dan100 is an admin.[10] in good standing at wikinews).
    3. Apparent vendetta blocks:
      A shows 4 of the spurious blocks Amgine levied against Neutralizer which were all later rescinded when other admins got involved [11].
      B shows the last block against Neutralizer done after Amgine and he clearly were in conflict
      02:13, 6 November 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 6 months
    4. Admin abuse; blocking Ed Brown for 1 month [12] 04:27, 11 December 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Edbrown05" with an expiry time of 1 month ; Amgine soon withdrew that block as he claimed a "software problem" had been the cause of the unjustified block. This time selection of 1 month for a long standing good contributor like Edbrown shows an abusive use of blocking
    5. talk page blanked and frozen by Amgine ( in the middle of ongoing disputes with this same person) [13] This is especially interesting as he did it just one hour after the talk page was made to prioritize the question of whether Amgine and another admin. are the same person.[14] As you can see below (6); Amgine has no problem accusing others of being sockpuppets but when he stands accused? Hell; just delete the evidence.
    6. More Disruption by Amgine; not assuming good faith:
      Amgine accused vonbergm of being a sockpuppet; "I do not have reason to believe you are not a sockpuppet."[15]
      Just a few days ago he accused Edbrown of being a sockpuppet[16]
    Additional "Troll" indicators
    1. Enigma = Amgine backwards
    http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/enigma •nig•ma (-ngm) KEY NOUN: One that is puzzling, ambiguous, or inexplicable. A perplexing speech or text; a riddle. Anything that arouses curiosity or perplexes because it is unexplained, inexplicable, or secret: conundrum, mystery, perplexity, puzzle, puzzler, riddle. Definition sounds a lot like a definition for "troll" to me; "puzzler,perplexing,conundrum"
    2. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Amgine says “left the project”
    http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log/block shows the opposite Neutralizer 15:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    please stop discussing the case here, instead do it at the project itself, where a discussion is already taking place. thx, oscar 13:55, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

    Respectfully, the discussion at the project does not address this issue (administrator troll) at all and, in fact, this discussion would not be allowed on the project. As requested, I will not be bothering you with this anymore; however, I do think you may wish to have a look at the item below before dismissing my concerns. Neutralizer 14:06, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    One of the Stewards, Datrio, just made my point[edit]

    http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Datrio#Exactly_the_point_.21

    If a Steward could be tricked by Amgine's mischief; then what does that tell you about what's happening to the average contributor to wikinews? Neutralizer 14:06, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    Best wishes[edit]

    Dario,Oscar,Angela; Okay; if you folks want to ignore/deflect/not take seriously this alert; then I must accept that. Because of your positions as Stewards, I expect you are more committed/dedicated to the projects than I am.But I know I did my best to deal with this matter; and it's quite apparent you did your best not to deal with it. So be it. Neutralizer 19:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    recatting Wiktionary category[edit]

    Hoi,
    You started the recategorisation of articles attributed to the Wiktionary category.. Why did you do this ?? There were many articles that should have gone to the new category as well .. GerardM 18:56, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    recatting wiktionary category?? i added a new category for UW-related articles instead!?
    dear gerard, my idea was, as you could have seen, to add the articles specifically about Ultimate Wiktionary to a corresponding new cat Category:Ultimate Wiktionary, which is categorized within the Wiktionary cat btw, hoping to have done you (and others) a favor in fact (everything concerning UW is brought together imho). if i happen to have overseen certain articles that also belong in there, you are free to add other articles to this cat of course. oscar 00:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    IRC[edit]

    FYI Wikimedia stewards on IRC. villy 22:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Korean cluster[edit]

    You don't have to use @jawiki on the Japanese Wikipedia. Instead of, for example, "Datrio@jawiki" just try editing "Datrio"'s flags. Datrio 09:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    duidelijk[edit]

    Oscar, omdat ik denk dat je dat mogelijk zou kunnen denken wil ik je laten weten dat absoluut niet van plan ben om in de rol van steward te handelen voor Waerth, Errabee en wie er nog zou kunnen bijkomen van NL. Het enigste wat ik gedaan heb is gebruik gemaakt van mijn recht om tegen Waerth te stemmen als moderator. Niets meer. Groet, --Walter 12:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    vanzelfsprekend, not a shadow of a doubt about it in my mind :-) groetjes, oscar 23:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    regels voor stewards[edit]

    RE hier graag

    Oscar, mijn eerste optreden als steward heb je ongedaan gemaakt. (Requests_for_bot_status#jbo:User:RobotJcb) Dit omdat het niet volledig volgens de procedure was zoals aangegeven op de pagina. Al was het voor mij goed genoeg. Niet leuk maar dat kan ik gerust aanvaarden. Blijkbaar moet ik nog leren hoe het werkt. Als de procedure persé zeer strik opgevolgd moet worden dan is dat maar zo.

    Daarom heb ik dan ook bij verzoeken erbij gezet dat men lokale verzoekpagina moet aanmaken als er geen is (Requests_for_bot_status#ta:User:SundarBot_and_en:User:SundarBot) of als het verzoek te recent is dat men moet wachten tot er mogelijk reactie komt. Nu zie ik dat een verzoek waar ik vermelde dat men nog diende te wachten door een andere steward wel zijn status gekregen heeft. En wel tijdens dag twee van de aankondiging op de lokale verzoekpagina. (Requests_for_bot_status/Archive/January_2006#it:Utente:Paulatz_bot).

    Dat is geen goede situatie als de ene verzoeker meer moeite moet doen om zijn status te bekomen en ook kan dat verwarring geven als de ene steward een reactie geeft om iets te doen en als een andere het dan gewoon toch doet.

    Weet jij hoe dat best aangepakt kan worden om alle verzoeken van iedereen een gelijke behandeling te geven? En dus alle stewards op één lijn te krijgen? Groet, --Walter 15:30, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    de procedure is idd niet al te lang geleden aangescherpt, ik ben blij met je aanvullingen derhalve.
    in het laatste geval dat je noemt, zou ik met de desbetreffende steward contact opnemen. zal ik dat in dit geval doen? oscar 23:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Ik ben de nieuwe hier. Beter dat jij het doet als er al iets gedaan moet worden. Eigenlijk is dat slecht gedaan. Er zou een steward-l moeten zijn en elke nieuwe steward zou eerst "leerling-steward" moeten zijn geworden met een andere als begeleider. --Walter 23:57, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    ik zal er mee aan de gang gaan dan. groetjes beste walter :-) oscar 01:37, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Wijzigen van username[edit]

    Beste Oscar, Hier op meta.wikimedia.org is mijn username OterHaar. Zou je dat voor mij willen wijzigen in Otto ter Haar. Ik heb begrepen dat jij, omdat je hier bureaucraat bent, dat kan doen. Otto ter Haar 20:44, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    'beurd ;-) oscar 00:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Bot[edit]

    Je verteld dat ik wat testruns moet doen, ik heb al een beetje interwiki gedraaid, is dit genoeg? 213.46.146.141 14:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Ik heb nu een grote testrun egdaan, zie [17] 213.46.146.141 10:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    account on foundation website[edit]

    Hi :-)

    http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_site_feedback/request_for_an_account#Dbl2010

    Opinion Oscar ?

    Anthere

    thx anthere for bringing this to my attention :-) oscar 11:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Checkuser request[edit]

    Hi, Can you possibly help me with my two requests at [18] (and possibly help the others too)? Thanks, Yonidebest 21:26, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    I answered your question there. Thanks, Yonidebest 17:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    nl.wiki vandal[edit]

    Hallo, this morning on it.wikipedia we had some heavy vandalism from an IP assigned to a high school in the Netherlands (Deventer). The IP has a really long blocklog on nl.wiki so I wrote to the "abuse" address and had a nice e-mail exchange with a person in the IT dept of the school. I offered him to contact somebody from nl.wikimedia and have sort of an informal conference with their students about open-content and wikimedia projects, I think this could be nice, instead of fighting vandals why not "brain wash" them :-D If you think this is a nice idea and somebody of nl.wikimedia has time to follow this please mail me on civvi68 c/o gmail.com  :-) Ciao --Civvi 13:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    LT.wikisource.org[edit]

    ... please create http://lt.wikisource.org/ ..  :-) --Redagavimas 18:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    ...please... --Redagavimas 18:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    dear redagavimas, please see Requests for new languages, there you will find the proper procedure to follow :-) good luck and wikigreetings, oscar 23:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Bureaucraat verzoek[edit]

    Hallo Oscar, wij hebben een bureaucraat nodig op de nieuwe Banyumas Wikipedia. Het Banyumas is een Javaans dialect. Ik ben al een bureaucraat op de Indonesische en Javaanse Wikipedia en men heeft mijn hulp gevraagd om deze nieuwe Wikipedia verder te ontwikkelen. Ik weet niet of ik hier op de juiste plaats ben, maar je bent blijkbaar een steward. Bijvoorbaat dank. Meursault2004 20:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    beste meursault, je kunt je verzoek daartoe plaatsen op Requests_for_permissions#Bureaucrats_for_Wikipedia; als je de boilerplate invult onder verwijzing naar een pagina met "community-approval" op de desbetreffende wiki dan kan ik (of een ander als die me te snel af is) je verzoek zsm inwilligen. hartelijke groet, oscar 22:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Bedankt, Oscars. Als je toch 2 bureaucraten willen aanstellen, dan maar ik en Slamet Serayu. Meursault2004 08:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    yo meursault, zou je svp op de local request page ervoor kunnen zorgen, dat er steun zichtbaar is vanuit de gemeenschap (een "poll" of whatever)? alleen dan kan een steward in actie komen nl. groetjes, oscar 10:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Tja, er zijn pas twee actieve gebruikers ... Ik heb de local request page bijgeplaatst. Meursault2004 12:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Ja we zullen nu het verzoek aanpassen in een verzoek voor gewone moderatoren. Meursault2004 09:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Adminship[edit]

    In de Engelse Wikipedia ben ik op mijn account Wilfried Derksen administrator. Inmiddels gebruik ik echter het account Electionworld. Ik zou graag het administratorschap omgezet willen hebben naar Electionworld. Kunt u mij helpen? 159.46.248.227 07:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    hoi wilfried, de engelse wikipedia heeft bureaucraten; die kunnen zowel naamsveranderingen uitvoeren als administratorschap toekennen. daarom is het de aangewezen weg, om aan deze mensen te vragen je te helpen... succes en groetjes, oscar 09:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Admin Abuse[edit]

    Dear Oscar,

    I would like to ask your help about two admins' discretionary actions in Turkish Viki. The article in question is Fethullah Gulen Turkish version. One of the admins Citrat is deleting and vandalizing the article without discussion and misusing his priviliges by thereatening me with block, deleting and distorting my contributions on the Village Pump, etc. To make the life easier to him, another one, who with minimal community support, blocked my account for no-legitimate reason. You can check my contributions to see that, I have no violations of the regulations at all. I was wondering if you could look at the case quickly and help me to unblock my account. How can I file my complaint about them regarding their misuse of admin priviliges. In Turkish Wiki, it does not look to be possible and reasonable. You probably remember that I made another request from you regarding the same admin Dbl2010. He is taking the issue very personally and now he blocked my account.

    Thanks in advance. Rgulerdem 07:24, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

    Hi, oscar. He is blocked for 3 days by violating 3 different main rules. He was already warned very seriously last week. Detailed block reasons have been placed on his message page. Feel free to contact any admin in that issue. And I am also sorry that this issue is coming back to MEta all the time. However, unfortunately, he prefers to comlain to stewards, instead using our internal complain page first. --Dbl2010 08:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Oscar, these two admins are definitely misusing their priviliges as documented above. I have no chance to raise the problem in Turkish Viki as 2 (sometimes 3) of 5 active admins are acting together. As I gave my log list, there is no violation of Viki rules. If there is, the admin posted the note above should be able to prove it.
    What has happened is this: I started a straw poll and announced in the village pump. He was not around for months and suddenly right after it, he wrote a note and explicitely attacked me personally by calling me as a troll because I am starting a straw poll and he asked the people for not voting... I replied back implying that he is closer to being a troll instead of me. Then he made up some rules and claimed that I am violating the rules although it is not the case.
    I would like you please consider removing their admin priviliges as they are not letting ordinary editors edit. After my 3 days block, admin Citrat changed the article to a version he likes without a discussion. It was the version supported by community for a long time as can be seen from history of the page. I do not think that it is ethical. He is deleting my edits without discussion, treatening me with block, and reverting, and distorting my edits even in Village Pump, acting as a side and also an admin at the same time, etc. as documented above. In the note, the one which Citrat was trying to delete, I posted to Village Pump, I was asking the community to contribute to the page about Gulen which is the article in question.
    Again I would like you please consider seriously removing their admin priviliges as they are not letting ordinary editors edit. The mechanism in the Turkish Viki is not working to deal with this discretionary actions and misuse of priviliges problems because of the number of admins and attitudes of some of them.
    Best, Rgulerdem 17:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
    And Citrat is still reverting the contribution by other users in contrast to the community consensus. Could you please do something for it. Thanks in advance. Rgulerdem 06:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    I just wanted to let you know that, I wrote to Angela about the current situation. Since I did not get a response from you yet, I thought you should be busy. Thanks anyways... Rgulerdem 22:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi oscar, since this problem havent come into solution after 5 months almost, I requested from Tr community to respond and say their thoughts about his behaviour. I especially invited all active sysops. So depending on the community response, we will see what we can do. Here is the open letter if you may want to see I also replied a little at Angela's page. Cheers. --Özgür 22:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Oscar, I would appreciate if you could have a chance to look at my explanations on Angela's page too. You may not need some of my translations as I know that you know some Turkish. I would not prefer to post this message here after my last note above but I realized that the admin in question is discussing the issue on both pages. The open letter he sounds like he is informing you about is actuallly given at the link I already provided above. Best. Rgulerdem 00:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Sysop[edit]

    Please make User:Jonathan Seiner@enwiki into a sysop, thanks.--Longmyres 18:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    i am sorry, but this is definitely up to the bureaucrats on en.wikipedia (see Requests for permissions: "If your wiki has a bureaucrat, please use the requests for adminship page on that wiki instead."). oscar 22:06, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Lister over gårder i Oppland (Lists of farms in Oppland)[edit]

    Meta wiki - now I'll have to figure out what that is...

    Articles which parallel a Norwegian Wikipeda series on Lists of farms in Oppland have been proposed for deletion; the Norwegian series is no: Kategori:Lister over gårder i Oppland. I believe that such material has both historical and genealogical value, but as always will support the position of the Wikimajority. If you have an opinion for or against deletion, I’d appreciate your commentary on en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of farms in Oppland. You’re welcome either in favor or against deletion. Tusen takk - Williamborg

    Sep11[edit]

    Thanks for your work over there. Rich Farmbrough 13:34 17 May 2006 (UTC).

    Sockpuppet/vandal[edit]

    Oscar, User:Sunfazer isn't a sockpuppet vandal - check his contributions, then unblock his IP address. He's emailed you already about this. --Glyder 14:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    my bureaucrat and sysop flags[edit]

    Hello, It appears that you removed my bureaucrat and sysop flags on EN Wikinews by mistake. MrM was the one who wanted to be desysoped, as he was not aware that bureaucrats could not desysop people he asked me first. He used the link to my talk page as proof that he really wanted to be desysopped. I would very much appreciate if you could make me a bureaucrat again. I have also asked our other two bureaucrats, but they are both mostly inactive(the main reason I am a bureaucrat :) ). --Cspurrier 02:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    i apologize, it was a misunderstanding... in the mean time i see that n:User:IlyaHaykinson has restored your rights at 05:43 this morning. my mistake, sorry for the inconvenience! oscar 11:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    desysoping[edit]

    hi,

    i asked about a week ago to desysop an admin on hebrew wiki. i was advised by troll rafaim to ask you to do it. here is the link to the vote and to his user page:he:משתמש:מלח השמים, he:ויקיפדיה:ביטול הרשאה/מלח השמים. only 50% of the votes are needed to desysop an admin. "abstain" votes are not counted in our wiki. Gilgamesh 10:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    as the pages you refer to contain almost exclusively text in hebrew (which i cannot read), i find it difficult to comply with this request right away. is there any english version available? greetz, oscar 12:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    this page: he:ויקיפדיה:ביטול הרשאה/מלח השמים is written in english. Gilgamesh 12:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    De-adminship because of violation of "administration ethics"[edit]

    How do you think, if an administrator violates so-called "administration ethics", but does not violate any Wikipedia rule, may administration privileges be dropped? --Jaroslavleff 16:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    li.wiktionary[edit]

    Hoi Oscar, op de door mij gecreëerde aanvraagpagina voor sysopstatus op de Limburgse Wiktionary hebben intussen twee gebruikers hun steun uitgesproken. Misschien kun je me nu tot (permanente) sysop daar maken? Alvast bedankt, Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 16:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Admin Madness for Afd...[edit]

    Dear Sir, I am a governor of Beşikdüzü district in Turkey. I am a active user of wikipedia and I have strongly sported wiki project . I have started first and only official wikipedia campaign so far in Turkey . In all of my district schools has participated the campaign and sported it in last and this year. My teachers will write or translate100 articles for wikipedia abaout their branches and their pupils will write 10 article about their own interest. The campaign has got a strong sport from mass media. Such as public channel TRT radios, national newspapers (such as radikal, milliyet) and local newspapers has participated the campaign so far. And tr.wikipedia has got a acceleration in users and articles from last November. You can see it in statics figures. If you look at some my little remarks on tr wikipedia I will write them below for the safety of wikipedia I have some observations about tr.wikipedia are below:

    • I am sorry to say that some admins in tr.wikipedia unfortunately are jealousy for my campaign action. They see my explanations and critisizms as a personel atact.
    • I see some admin abuse about deleting articles. This work is going to be madness.
    • Only ten spesific users decides to deletings. They add SAM tag in order to get a higher operations achivment degree .One guy put SAM tag and the other 9 guys put deleting mesages. is it possible to delete very serious articles some times 5 users desecion dispite of in 20.000 users ansiklopedia? How it is posssible to delete?
    • Some admins and pro-admins are deletions articles instead of putting them in order.
    • İf you look at the deleting articles in 1-20 may 2006, you will see it. For example :Doğu Gözaçan article deleted. Why ? They said it is advertaisment I think some admins and pro admins againts capital. So that "delete it".because he has a capital. İt is funny that Mr Gözaçan has owner of Doğuş University and many schools .
    • For example "Necati Cumalı" article deleted. Why?in order to get higher operations number. İt has so many examples.
    • I tried them to explained that there is no admin or wikipedist has a law education inside them. I said All of you are architectchers.
    • For example critisize and personal attact are different. Even thoug they didnt know defrerenceses between general critisazie and personel attact.
    • I strongly criticised admins deletings creteria and behaviours. So that they deleted for example :The governership of Beşikduzu and they bloched my accaount.

    I said and kindly warned them i will take the problem to meta. So that they stoped about their madness a little from by the date 20.05.2006. But this time some admin and pro-admin getting me in their target.( Kullanıcı:citrat RenegadeNoumenon kullanıcı:denisutku

    • Would you please do warning and to stop their previligies them. Incase they will be again abuse their authorizations.
    • I am writing you this message to inform and to get you strict precautions or solutions against tr wikipedia.
    • There is a need balans power for their Afd madness. If you want a furher help , please contact me.

    with my best wishes.--3210 22:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    See also[edit]

    1. [[20]]
    2. 1.12 Beşikdüzü Kaymakamlığı

    Organizied Team for Afd ,Would you be careful for them?[edit]

    Kullanıcı:Dbl2010 When they put Afd , They do not send any messaj for users that they were edited articles

    Note:[edit]

    İt is taken in English Wikipedia below. Could you read it? Just before that nomination, on the same Log page, there were nominations for the articles on Turkey (the Republic) and Turkish (the language), the latter also with the rationale "unencyclopedic" (and furthermore: "wrong"). I don't know it means much. --LambiamTalk 08:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC) Same nominator? ~ trialsanderrors 19:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC) Looks like the Turkish Wikipedians are also leaning towards Silinsin. Evidently it's not all Western bias --3210 22:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    My Proposals[edit]

    • I think some users must be banned from Afd aplications.
    • Kullanıcı:Dbl2010 can not be impartall and neoutreal
    • In my opinion :Bot can be them:

    Kullanıcı:basakugur

    kullanıcı:selkem .

    • Afd should be in main page in http://www.tr.wikipedia.org . Because main part of Turkish users couldn't understand the system how it works.
    • I think some body has to have law education in admins.

    --3210 09:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Using Checkuser Privileges for "Dragnet" purposes[edit]

    This seems to be happening now at Wikinews[24].

    • About 4 of the requested user names were found to be in a different country; the other 10 or so were anons in Toronto. The person with Checkuser privilege, CSpurrier, reported information to the community about an alltogether different user "Factchecker" (for which there was no request at all for the use of checkuser) which he came upon during his check of the anons. There seems to be little if any actual vandalism involved and the checkuser requester, Amgine, has had an ongoing feud with the supposed sockpuppeteer,Neutralizer, who he recently blocked for 3 weeks. Can this apparently blatant abuse of the checkuser privilege be stopped? 70.50.76.209 23:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Upon further research it seems that the "infraction" committed by the majority of the anons who were subjected to Checkuser was this edit which they placed on Amgine's talk page in an attempt to disclose what they felt was an unbecoming edit by an Admin which had been erased from Wikinews' history;

    What Amgine said about Australians [25] "Simeon edits from Australia, a continent populated entirely by criminals! And, as a criminal he would expect that we would not trust him, so obviously we cannot drink from the glass in front of us.."- Amgine/talk 03:54, 11 May 2005 (UTC). 70.50.76.209 00:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    afzettingsprocedure moderatoren[edit]

    Hoi Oscar,

    ik zie dat er op nl de laatste tijd weer wat hommeles is, met de bijbehorende afzettingsprocedures tot gevolg. Ondanks dat ik niet meer actief ben op nl, wil ik je hierbij nog wel een suggestie aan de hand doen: Schaf dat hele opzeggen van vertrouwen gewoon af. Redenen:

    • Een afzettingsprocedure wordt altijd gedaan op het moment dat iemand zich benadeeld voelt. Veel emoties komen dan los. Een afzettingsprocedure verergert alleen maar de emoties, en kan dus nooit leiden tot conflictbeheersing.
    • Als dat negatieve aspect in de belangstelling heeft gestaan, is het stemmerspubliek vaak al weer vergeten dat de betreffende moderator juist ook hele goede dingen gedaan heeft. Gevolg is dat een goede moderator die toevallig net een keer een foute beslissing neemt direct wordt weggestemd.
    • Als het negatieve aspect alleen maar zo wordt ervaren door degene die de procedure is opgestart, dan is het bij voorbaat een kansloze procedure. Stemmen bij een kansloze procedure wordt door veel mensen als ergerlijk beschouwd, en zorgt voor animositeit jegens degene die de procedure is gestart.

    In plaats daarvan zijn er de jaarlijkse beoordelingen, een veel betere methode om iemand te beoordelen. En in dringende gevallen kunnen de moderatoren in een onderlinge stemming besluiten iemand het moderatorschap te ontnemen. Als eindelijk die arbitragecommissie eens van de grond komt, kan je zelfs besluiten om alleen die maar het recht te geven een moderator uit zijn ambt te zetten; dan ben je zelfs de jaarlijkse beoordelingen kwijt.

    Voel je vrij om hiermee te doen of te laten wat je wilt. Groetjes, Errabee 20:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Stewards on IRC[edit]

    Hi, I am posting this to the talk page of all stewards. I am user:Walter, steward. It came to the attention that it is for users who urgently need the assistance of a steward it is not always easy to find one. I am posting this to ask your help to try to improve our service to the community.

    The best hope I believe for a user to find a steward is IRC I think. There is a channel for the stewards , #wikimedia-stewards but there very few stewards there mostly if any.

    So my first request is that when you are online and have time to also open the channel #wikimedia-stewards That can easy and even automatically depending of your IRC-client. Two suggestions; Gaim, you can add IRC-channels and users between your MSN, Jabber and other contacts. Very easy to use. Or chatZilla, more a real IRC program.

    You can also use a webbased solution. Can also be useful when you are not at home. The IRC gateway I have setup will do its work for this purpose. http://chat.wikizine.org.

    Finaly; You have your real name, your wikimedia user name and some have a totally different IRC name. I have created a new column on Stewards#Active_stewards to fill in your IRC-nick , if you are on IRC offcource. I have already filled it in for some who I know.

    This request is not personally direct to you but to all stewards in general. Not everybody needs to be in that IRC -channel. If you know the channel exists that is already a very good start. Greetings, --Walter 20:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Your statement[edit]

    Hello Oscar. I've translated your candidacy statement into French language, but as you speak French, it would be great if you could proofread it to check what I've translated is what you really meant :) guillom 11:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    cher guillom, merci beaucoup pour la traduction :-) j'ai corrigé quelques choses petites, et suis incapable de trouver une meilleure traduction de "stubbiest stub ever"... "pire ébauche" ne me semble pas tou à fait correcte "ébauche la plus ébauché" (pourrait-on dire ça en français? mais ça, c'est un détail ;-) ciao, oscar 00:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Gratulojn ! vi ja ĝuste trafis 1 = unu 2 = du / unua = premier = first = erst / dua = deuxième = second = zweite Arno Lagrange  13:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    J'ai retouché la fameuse expression, je pense que ça colle mieux maintenant: [26]. Bonne chance ! guillom 06:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    board candidacy[edit]

    Composition of the board[edit]

    What is your opinion on how the board should be constituted ? Do you think it should exclusively be composed of editors of our projects ? If so, rather elected or appointed ? Do you think we should have some people external to our community ? In those listed in the past two months on Foundation -l, can you list those you think would be great board members and those who might reveal dangerous for our dream ? Do you have names to suggest for board expansion ?

    the current board is definitely too small, and the current organization not (yet) appropriate to deal with the growth we are experiencing. it is my personal belief that there are many good people around who can help us, not just in the projects; though i know some, i don't claim to know them all, so i will refrain from giving names at the moment.

    Copyright[edit]

    Do you think the Foundation should be a publisher ? If not, do you think it should control what is publish, through the authorization (or not) of use of our brands ? Do you know of one project currently trying to be edited and in conflict with the Foundation on that matter ?

    looking at the disclaimer, it looks as if the foundation denies being a publisher, nevertheless i think it legally is. every project should be weighed against the wmf's mission. i have personally heard many complaints about daily practice in the commonswiki, which may in part prove to be pointing to such conflicts as you are referring to. but as long as the content and procedures of any project remain in accordance with the totality of the wmf's mission, there's no point in the wmf meddling with it in detail.

    Money[edit]

    What should be the business plan of the Foundation ? How would you suggest it earns money ?

    it seems atm there is no lack of support, but i do insist the wmf work towards a greater financial independence by developing more income generating activities (for the wmf and its chapters, not for persons only), using the edge of our unique competence concerning wiki-technologies and dealing with wiki-communities.

    Threat and forces[edit]

    Can you cite 3 forces of the Foundation ? Can you cite the main 3 threats for our projects as of today ?

    "cite"? from where? "forces"? or "fortes"?
    i will not "quote" but give my personal view.
    1. force: growing worldwide open community (inner forces: people, copyleft, global cooperation)
    2. fortes: independency and dedication of contributors on all levels, largest body of wiki-projects on the web
    3. weaknesses: weak organization, no clearly defined strategies
    4. threats: organizational breakdown or takeover, commercialization and corruption of content, governmental control of digital content or traffic

    Vision[edit]

    Can you cite the current three main projects/agreements/priorities of the board ?

    reorganizing itself, assessing its mandate and responsibilities anew, implementation of the practical consequences of all this.

    If you had to decide which are the 5 most important tasks for the board to accomplish in the time of your term, which ones would they be ? (be practical)

    1. deal with pending resolutions
    2. design and motion delayed resolutions
    3. make the board retreat into a turning point harnessing long term existence and growth
    4. enhance transparency of communication by installing a council level between board and projects
    5. expand the board

    Anthere

    bisous

    likewise ;-) --oscar 11:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikizine[edit]

    Hi,

    I am user:Walter from Wikizine. I offer you, like all the other candidates, the opportunity to send me statement of around 300 words that I will send to the subscribers of wikizine. For more information see Wikizine/election 2006.

    Greetings, Walter 22:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    PS: yes, I know, I have send this to you before by email. But for reasons I do not wish to explain here in detail I think in this case is useful that I can prove that I have asked you this. Because of that this second message.

    Board of Trustees elections[edit]

    Hello!

    The Wikipedia Signpost, a community-newspaper in the English Wikipedia, is covering the Board of Trustees elections and will be featuring each of the candidates in next week's issue. As such, we would appreciate it if you would take some time to answer a few interview questions. Each candidate will be asked the same questions; by no means, though, feel obligated to answer any (or even) all of them, though we would greatly appreciate it if you did.

    Some of the questions may be a bit redundant to the candidate information you have filled out already. This is both for convenience and for giving you the opportunity to expand on some of them a bit. However, we ask that you keep all responses brief, limiting them to no more than one or two paragraphs each.

    You may leave replies to my English Wikipedia talk page, my meta talk page, or email them to me. I would appreciate it if responses are in on or before this Saturday, August 26; please have them in at the latest on Sunday the 27th in order for them to be included in Monday's issue.

    As always, the Signpost reserves the right to re-distribute the questions and replies, shorten any responses if necessary, and take any other editorial action deemed appropriate.

    Thanks again for your time, and please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    1. Your name:
    2. Your username most commonly used:
    3. Your current geographic location, along with your age:
    4. Projects with significant contributions (please both name the language and project, and link to your contributions)
    5. Do you have any rights (i.e. admin, bureaucrat) or positions (i.e. dispute resolution, CheckUser, etc.) on any of those projects? If so, which ones? When did you get elected or promoted for each one?
    6. Do you hold any universal rights (i.e. steward, etc.) for Wikimedia Projects? If so, since when?
    7. When did you first start contributing to Wikimedia projects? Why and how did you initially join?
    8. Briefly describe your career ("real-life"). How do you think this will help you be a successful Board member?
    9. Of all the candidates right now, why do you stand out from the field? What makes you the best candidate?
    10. A knowledge of several languages has been cited as a key requirement for a Board member. Do you speak any other languages other than English? Why do you think language is or isn't critical to the Board?
    11. What do you expect to do while serving on the Board? What are your expectations?
    12. What can you bring to the Board? What can you contribute to the Wikimedia Foundation?
    13. Describe the one issue that you think is most pressing and pertinent to the Foundation right now, and how you would approach the situation.
    14. What is your vision of the Board in the Foundation heirarchy? How do you feel about the current leadership?
    15. As a Board member, you will be serving as a representative of the communities. Do you think you can represent the community and understand its concerns? Why?
    16. What do you think of the Wikimedia Foundation and its mission in general? If you could change one thing about the running of the Foundation, what would you change?
    17. If elected, can and will you devote the appropriate time and other resources needed to serve on the Board?
    18. Have you ever attended Wikimania or any other meetup? What role do you think these meetups play?
    19. Please list (and link) any other pages where you have gotten questions and comments pertaining to the Board elections; we are compiling all of the questions and would appreciate this.
    20. What would you say to a potential voter who is undecided right now?
    21. Is there anything else you would like to mention?


    Thanks again.

    Questions to candidate[edit]

    Ethics[edit]

    Hello Oscar,

    I like your platform and the candid and simple way in which you presented your platform. A question for you in this regard:

    In a recent wikiEN-I en posting (8/19/2006), Jimmy Wales wrote:

    "Most of us do care passionately about the ethics of what we are doing, and how it affects people. Indeed, for most of us, it is part of the very fabric of the reasons we participate. We are human beings, trying to do something good, not automatons puking out soulless "content" [...] we are good, we are ethical, we are trying to produce something important in

    the world that matters to the world, and we want to do it the right way."

    1. Are you in agreement with that statement?
      of course
    2. If you do, what would you do as a board member to bring that understanding to life in our project?
      just plainly be myself, if i may be so bold, and work hard - i may yet need to learn more languages ;-)

    ≈ jossi ≈ 01:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    --oscar 11:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Board of Trustees elections[edit]

    Hello! This is just a friendly reminder that responses to the "interview" questions for the Wikipedia Signpost are due soon. The important message and questions were left on your meta talk page. If you have not already done so, please kindly take a look at them, and we would appreciate your reply as soon as possible. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Flcelloguy (A note?) 02:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    my answers[edit]

    1. Your name:
      • oscar van dillen
    2. Your username most commonly used:
    3. Your current geographic location, along with your age:
      • rotterdam, netherlands - born june 1958
    4. Projects with significant contributions (please both name the language and project, and link to your contributions)
    5. Do you have any rights (i.e. admin, bureaucrat) or positions (i.e. dispute resolution, CheckUser, etc.) on any of those projects? If so, which ones? When did you get elected or promoted for each one?
      • bureaucrat on nl.wikipedia, elected admin by the admins in may 2004, promoted bureaucrat in feb 2005; promoted bureaucrat and co-founder with GerardM of nl.wikimedia mar 2005, elected admin at meta apr 2005, promoted admin on nl.wiktionary aug 2005, promoted bureaucrat on nl.wikibooks aug 2005.
    6. Do you hold any universal rights (i.e. steward, etc.) for Wikimedia Projects? If so, since when?
      • steward since june 2005 (elected).
    7. When did you first start contributing to Wikimedia projects? Why and how did you initially join?
    8. Briefly describe your career ("real-life"). How do you think this will help you be a successful Board member?
      • i believe i indicated this already in my candidates' statement (see #5). i am used to always think professionally about whatever i undertake and have quite some professional experience in dealing efficiently with pending difficult decisions and developing long-term policies.
    9. Of all the candidates right now, why do you stand out from the field? What makes you the best candidate?
      • well, let me try to list some things about myself. i am a very serious candidate, but i don't think of myself in terms like "the best candidate" ;-)
        1. i am a professional artist (composer) and a creative person in general
        2. although a specialist in certain musical fields, i am an open-minded person with a broad knowledge in general
        3. i have some years experience as a professional manager - i am used to working hard and getting things done
        4. i have a good working knowledge of several languages
    10. A knowledge of several languages has been cited as a key requirement for a Board member. Do you speak any other languages other than English? Why do you think language is or isn't critical to the Board?
      • this too i addressed in my candidates' statement ("i am a native speaker of the dutch language, but a near native in english and german, fluent in french and some working knowledge of spanish, swedish and italian. basic knowledge of turkish, spoken cantonese and written egyptian hieroglyphs"). in learning different languages one basically acquires an ability to more easily become familiar with different cultures and ways of thinking.
    11. What do you expect to do while serving on the Board? What are your expectations?
      • i expect to be allowed to contribute to improving the board's ability to act, especially where nasty or unpopular decisions have to be made. i hope to have the board meetup for at least 4 times a year irl, somewhere on this planet, with other meetups or small conferences in its wake.
    12. What can you bring to the Board? What can you contribute to the Wikimedia Foundation?
      • next to my expertise and professional experience, i hope especially to bring in my knowledge of and experience with other projects than in the english language.
    13. Describe the one issue that you think is most pressing and pertinent to the Foundation right now, and how you would approach the situation.
      • how to maintain growth and remain true to the key mission of the projects without losing their typical character, as an organization as well as financially. the wikimedia foundation should always be and remain independent of its (potential) business partners.
    14. What is your vision of the Board in the Foundation heirarchy? How do you feel about the current leadership?
      • too few people are being burdened with too many tasks: but we are all learning. as for now, too many things are left unclear or undecided, a more clear structure of organization is needed, with a larger number of professional people. i blame no one in particular, but things must change if we are to survive i am afraid.
    15. As a Board member, you will be serving as a representative of the communities. Do you think you can represent the community and understand its concerns? Why?
      • i trust i can because of my gift to bridge differences without compromises as well as because of my international network of connections.
    16. What do you think of the Wikimedia Foundation and its mission in general? If you could change one thing about the running of the Foundation, what would you change?
      • in my candidates' statement i have been rather particular about how important i consider the foundation's mission. i would furthermore propose to organize an additional elected body representing the projects (though different from the "parliament" and "wikicouncel" as proposed by others), see for my proposal from june this year my email to foundation-l.
    17. If elected, can and will you devote the appropriate time and other resources needed to serve on the Board?
      • i would be more than happy to, of course.
    18. Have you ever attended Wikimania or any other meetup? What role do you think these meetups play?
      • yes, here again i refer to my candidates' statement, see #6. i was also at wikimania in boston, but couldn't make it to frankfurt in 2005 due to family circumstances.
    19. Please list (and link) any other pages where you have gotten questions and comments pertaining to the Board elections; we are compiling all of the questions and would appreciate this.
    20. What would you say to a potential voter who is undecided right now?
      • know what you vote for: knowledge is power only if you are well-informed.
    21. Is there anything else you would like to mention?
      • i apologize for the delay with these answers because of my holidays and my computercrash :-(

    --oscar 16:32, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    No problem, and thanks again! The article is here, in case you're interested. Flcelloguy (A note?) 02:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Questions from Dijxtra[edit]

    Hello, these are generic questions I decided to submit to every candidate. If you already answered the question in your application, skip it. If you consider any question to be to private for you to answer, feel free to state that and accept my apology for being to intrusive. I also ask you to pardon my English since spellcheckers don't check grammar :-) Here are the questions:

    1. Privacy policy of Wikimedia Foundation projects states that: "It is the policy of Wikimedia that personally identifiable data collected in the server logs, or through records in the database via the CheckUser feature, may be released by the system administrators or users with CheckUser access, in the following situations: 1. In response to a valid subpoena or other compulsory request from law enforcement" If such subpoena occurs, would you agree that Wikimedia Foundation complies ASAP or would you request Foundation to dispute that subpoena in court, like Google did in January this year? Let me remind you that the second option requires money to be spent.

    -->the policy says: "...MAY be released...", not: "WILL be released". i think this finesse describes quite well the freedom the wmf still aspires to have in judging how to deal with this in particular cases (other than e.g. the abuse described in sections 3, 5 and 6 of the policy). oscar 09:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    2. What is your opinion of WP:OFFICE? Do you think that:

    • It is very good solution to bureaucratisation of Wikipedia, allowing a swift action in cases which need such action. We should widen the circle of people who have the power to use WP:OFFICE.
    • It is very good solution to bureaucratisation of Wikipedia, allowing a swift action in cases which need such action. (And only Danny should use WP:OFFICE privilege)
    • I don't like the thing, but we need it so we don't get sued.
    • Community is above any user and we should think of WP:OFFICE as temporary measure until we find a way for the whole community to act swiftly in cases of libel accusations.
    • We should move our servers to jurisdiction which makes it hard for people to sue us for libel.

    --> i see wp:office as one of the ways to protect against repeated abuse of the freedom we keep offering people in our projects, and also as a way to preserve this very freedom, not essentially different from the blocking of users; without appropriate means we cannot protect the fulfilment of our mission. the less wp:office is actually needed, the better libelous abuse has apparently been filtered out by our volunteers, of which i also am one. oscar 09:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    3. Have you ever been on a paylist of anybody/any organization/any firm connected to any current member of the board? Please understand this question in the broadest sense possible.

    --> no, never. i guess anthere or jimbo paying me a drink (or parking ticket) once in a while doesn't put me on their payroll... ;-) oscar 09:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for your time, Dijxtra 20:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Questions from Voice of All[edit]

    What exactly is are your long term and short term (such as during your possible term) goals for the WMF?

    How will you go about achieving these, what objectives could we expect you to focus on as a board member?

    Can you clarify your stance on "copyrights" and how that would affect you as a board member?

    Thanks.Voice-of-All 01:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you still answering questions?Voice-of-All 01:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    of course. just had to sort some things out, among these fixing my laptop after its recent crash and various organizational stuff concerning my job. will get to it soon now though. best, oscar 07:25, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Voting will end soon... :(Voice-of-All 02:54, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    answers[edit]

    i try to be very concise now:

    What exactly is are your long term and short term (such as during your possible term) goals for the WMF?

    short term: the wmf's organization has not grown according to the growth of their scope and projects: a reorganization is needed asap. long term: global organizational and financial independence and stability, while achieving the wmf's mission.

    How will you go about achieving these, what objectives could we expect you to focus on as a board member?

    short term -> clean up of things left undone, more delegation of responsibilities and work, a larger office body, not only in the usa. long term -> more spreading of risk (avoid en:single point of failure!). special attention to the communication, starting through key persons, especially with all non-english projects and languages, thus starting a process of bridging worldwide cultural differences (if we don't succeed in this who will???). creation of a council-level, intermediate between board and projects.

    Can you clarify your stance on "copyrights" and how that would affect you as a board member?

    copyright creates monopolies. i believe we can do without both.

    --oscar 10:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Please correct a link![edit]

    In the candidate interview, you state that you provide links to two of your earliest edits. However, they link to the same item (the Dutch musical consonance one). I think you'd like to correct this. (Don't hesitate to remove this note from your talk page afterwards. I'd dropped you a letter, if I'd found out how to do it.) 130.237.198.137 19:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    np i now corrected it, thx for letting me know :-) oscar 00:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    About my requests[edit]

    I requested for Administration access in local sq.Wikibooks and in local sq.Wiktionary and in bow placs is no reaction from other editors, reason is because just me and some other one are working in those projects in this hard begining.

    For those two projects I requested and in Admins for Wikibooks and Admins for Wiktionary and there is no reaction from your side.

    I would like to have some answer.

    Thanks for you concideration. (Puntori 13:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

    Help[edit]

    AYUDA[edit]

    Pienso que como muchas personas yo ingrese a participar en Wikipedia muy animadamente, sin embargo me tope con una gran traba, los wikipedistas que se creen dueños del saber y esta web, yo soy un novato en wikipedia y las veces que he entrado me dedico mas a procurar ver como arreglo la web de una artista joven latina, que viene sobresaliendo en el mundo del espectaculo.

    Me parecio lindo poder colocar una biografia de ella, pero mi colaboracion primero llevo el irrelevante, no si el arte sea irrelevante o es irrelevante porque es una propuesta de un extraño... bueno en fin , luego de irrelevante paso a copy nose que? pero de alli le quitaron ese calñificativo y paso a votacion para borrado ???? whath??? y mas contrariado cuando dicen que pse puede editar bien para que no sea eliminado, porque no usan el tiempo en corregior los trabajos malos en vez de usarlo para crear foros y otros? porque no le dicen a uno como corregir los trabajos????

    Luego veo quienes solicitan el borrado, al parecer gente que les gusta les llamen duquesa, excelencia, divinidad??? queeeee, esta es una pagina que pretende revolucionar la educacion??? hacer que persista el por siempre las cosas que deben de serlo??? no me parece que sea el criterio usado el mejor ç, usted como uno de los lideres por favor ayude para que existan estos cambios en la conducta de los administradores, bibliotecarios y en fin

    Bueno sino nuevamente perdi el tiempo aca en este reino de brujas, condes, duquesas y reyes del saber :(

    Ahhhhh mi contribucion fue sobre Mia Rauz

    indignodewiki 20:21, 05 Septiembre 2006

    Change[edit]

    Hi Oscar,

    regarding your candidacy for the boardelections, I would like to ask what the one thing is at the moment, as far as you can see right now, that you would like to be changes as soon as you should be elected in the foundations policy. What is the foundation doing or not doing, that it respectively shouldn't or should, that you want to change for sure? Effeietsanders 16:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    i believe i already answered this more elaborately elsewhere. however, the first very very practical priority would be to vote asap on the pending resolutions and motion the ones delayed, and making sure such delays won't ever ever occur again ;-) oscar 11:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    something else[edit]

    Hi oscar.

    let's talk about the main matters: if someone come to wikipedia and just want edit a page according his\her wishes so what ya can do?

    do you have any idea about this? then wikipedia will loose it's Reputability.then people say "hey,you know you can't trust wikipedia any more.the site has corrupted."

    I know , you know that wikipedia will be the first and may be the one of the greatest internet Encyclopedia till 10 years later. and we know that internet is going to be the most popular way to commiunicate,search about problems,... ,(i gonna test you.if you answer this question you will prove yourself,one vote is one vote,and all of us has many friends.the question will show your Perseverance.ask in persian)  :

    برنامه خود را در مورد گسترش زبانها غیر از انگلیسی شرح دهید. متشکرم

    i think you are the best in the list. so don't disappoint me oscar. please send the answer to:pirooz_3865@yahoo.com


    thank you.oscar

    A TEST[edit]

    Hi oscar.

    let's talk about the main matters: if someone come to wikipedia and just want edit a page according his\her wishes so what ya can do?

    do you have any idea about this? then wikipedia will loose it's Reputability.then people say "hey,you know you can't trust wikipedia any more.the site has corrupted."

    I know , you know that wikipedia will be the first and may be the one of the greatest internet Encyclopedia till 10 years later. and we know that internet is going to be the most popular way to commiunicate,search about problems,... ,(i gonna test you.if you answer this question you will prove yourself,one vote is one vote,and all of us has many friends.the question will show your Perseverance.ask in persian)  :

    برنامه خود را در مورد گسترش زبانها غیر از انگلیسی شرح دهید. متشکرم

    i think you are the best in the list. so don't disappoint me oscar. please send the answer to:pirooz_3865@yahoo.com


    thank you.oscar

    9/11 Wikipedia[edit]

    Hi, Oscar. In light of the four discussions listed below, what course of action would you take with regard to the 9/11 Wikipedia if you were elected to the board?

    Looking forward to your response. Thanks. Andreyi 17:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


    West Brom 4ever[edit]

    i fixed the link. [West Brom 4ever]

    sd.wikinews.org redirects upload to common wiki?[edit]

    The upload option in sd.wikinews.org redirects upload to common wiki, I dont know the reason, but plz consider it because I am working at (username:zafar) the newly launched main page. The original url from special upload comes with error "upload disabled". If possible plz help me to correct it. 202.174.136.98 06:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    IRC logs[edit]

    A user publish IRC logs in Turkish Wikipedia here. I said him to here but he said "that event is not publishing logs and this is not IRC log publishing, First you should check what IRC log publishing is then if you are not convinced you can go to meta to claim" and also he said "he used this sentences as an evidence rof bad faith in the dispute-resolution process and these sentences includes legal threat against sysops". In Turkish Wikipedia publishing logs are forbidden you can see that text in Turkish Wikipedia channel topic:

    *Turkish "Meta'nın aldığı karara göre kanal kayıtlarını yayımlamak ciddi bir Vikipedi suçudur, Vikipedi'yle ilgili bütün oluşumlardan atılırsınız."

    *English "As the Meta decided publishing channel logs a serious crime, when you did that you are blocked all Wikipedias."

    That guy said to me he publish privat logs but he do not publish privat logs her you can see:

    29 Haziran 2006 Vikipedi'nin resmi IRC kanalında noumenon ile konuşurken yaptığı tehdit:

    -eğer şikayet etmek zorunda kalırsam -en az 3 yönetici hapse gider sevgili arkadaşım

    resmi IRC kanalında that mean in English "in offical IRC channel".

    Name of this user is tr:User:Dbl2010. Sorry my english is not good if you dont understand something please ask. Ruzgar 10:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Oscar, can you give me an answer. Ruzgar 11:42, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    the answer lies in yourself, change your behaviour: stop your vandalism and sockpuppeting and your problems will disappear. oscar 00:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    My English is not so good you have to translate my text,

    Gösterdiğin engellemeler İngilizce Vikipedi ile alakalı. Türkçe Vikipedide şu ana kadar hiç bir şekilde engellenmedim. İngilizce Vikipedide'ki engellenmelerimin hepsinde de kural hatası var. Ayrıca ben her ne kadar değişiklik sayısına önem vermesemde bugüne kadar Türkçe Vikipedi'de 4000'in üzerinde değişiklik yapmış bir kullanıcıyım. Vikipedi tüzüğünde açıkca belirtildiği gibi kişiler geçmişte yaptıkları veya başka Vikipedi'lerde yaptıkları ile yargılanamazlar ancak sen bunu bile bilmeyecek kadar Vikipedi kurallarından bihabersin. Senin gibilerin steward olması Vikipedi'nin geleceği açısından ürkütücü. Ruzgar 00:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    weetjes[edit]

    Hi! It was nice to chat you in Boston, and sorry not to have enough time ;)

    yes! uploading my wikimania photos is still due... oscar 16:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you help me to deal with Weetjes? I assume it is in Dutch language ... Can we speedy it? Or not? --Aphaia 11:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    I deleted it.--Patrick 16:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    thx patrick, i was actually just looking at it; you were right in deleting it of course :-) greetings, oscar 16:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Kleine (?) Bitte[edit]

    Moin! Kannst Du als Admin bitte in der engl. Wikipedia meinen alten Account sperren? Ich habe mich vor meinem Umzug in die USA als en:User:Hedwig US angemeldet, aber durch den Umzug total vergessen. Und deshalb habe ich mich neu angemeldet. Ich dachte, ich bin nur auf de:Wikipedia und Commons angemeldet gewesen. Sorry! 8( Danke, lieber Admin! ;-))) Und Entschuldigung für die Mehrarbeit! en:User:Hedwig in Washington --71.37.53.74 12:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC) Nachtrag: Habe mich fix auf hier angemeldet! --Hedwig in Washington 12:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    liebe hedwig, wenn ich dich auch gerne aushelfen möchte, ist das von hier (metawiki) aus ungewöhnlich, da die englische wikipedia seine eigene administratoren hat, und ich zwar steward, aber keinen admin da bin. wer immer die sperrung auch ausführen wird: die beide accounts brauchen solch eine bitte mit doppeltem unterschrift auf auf die seite des zu sperrendes accounts, sonnst wäre soetwas ja nicht kontrollierbar. frage es doch bitte den englischen admins, die werden dich zweiffellos aushelfen :-) (technisch kann ein steward das auch, aber da es ein projekt betrifft mit admins, ist das Not done ;-) alles gute wünscht dir oscar 16:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, danke Dir fuer Deine Zeit und Deinen Tip! Alles Gute auch Dir! --Hedwig in Washington 21:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Camping en Auvergne ?[edit]

    je vote tout de suite je suis Bourbonnais

    Claudio

    merci :-) --oscar 21:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikimedia NL[edit]

    Congrats for Wikimedia NL!!! Now, since you are the latest local chapter, you, as the president, have to do something to prove that this organisation has been established properly. In that regard, you are to bring a lot of stroopwafels to Frankfurt! Consider this as a half-formal request from a vice-president and executive board member of Wikimedia Serbia :)) Cheers --Filip (§) 22:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    I strongly support Filip's request. If you come to Frankfurt, never forget the Stroopwafels (rough translation of a widely unknown German saying) -- Arne (akl) 22:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    lol :-D since i am planning to come by car, i can actually bet i can bring more than you can eat in a weekend without getting sick :-P all the best, oscar 22:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Oscar! how dare you! Now you just destoyed our best negotiation position!!! You could've bribed everybody and gotten a lot of good stuff out of it with these stroopwafels. Lucky enough, you just told them you'd bring them, not you'd give them :) Effeietsanders 22:56, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    ever seen the mission impossible movie with these chimera and bellerophon phials? ;-) oscar 23:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Dutch wikipedia[edit]

    Hi Oscar! I've heard that the Dutch language is undergoing some spelling reforms courtsey http://taalunieversum.org/, and that new spellings are valid as of 1 Aug 2006. Is wikipedia nl: going to update to the new spellings, or is there a proposal to create a new nl: wiki? Please let me know. Regards, Nichalp 02:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Please[edit]

    Hi, may I please ask you to remove my bureaucrat status for it.wiki? Many thanks :-) --Civvi 21:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    a request like this actually belongs at Requests_for_permissions#Removal_of_access for purpose of transparency. i could not find any evidence in your italian contributions supporting your request btw? oscar 21:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    multilingual popout[edit]

    yo Tembelejderha! could you help out constructing a similar multilingual popout for meta:Metapub? tesekkür simdiden ;-) oscar 21:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    yo Oscar! I started one, birşey değil. :) -Tembelejderha 10:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    çok güzel :-D tesekkürle! oscar 22:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Switch Logo to sd.wikinews.org?[edit]

    Sindhi

    • for the sd.wikinews.org, please switch logo. The proposed one is here:

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sd_wikinews_logo.png (how can i protect it? coz at sd.wikinews upload is disabled) http://sd.wikinews.org/wiki/Image:Sd_wikinews_logo.png (the page is protected) I can't upload files because uploading is disabled. Thanks Alixafar 18:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    hi alixafar, i looked and saw that no logo has been uploaded as yet. you need to contact a developer to help you out, and set the logo right. did you check if the logo you want to use has been approved as well? there are rather strict guidelines concerning logos etc. best regards, oscar 22:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Revealing my personal identity on serbian wiki[edit]

    I was administrator on serbian wiki until two days ago. They banned me for good for something was smaller personal attack then personal attacks on me. And now two beaurocrats had revealed my personal identity. I asked community to punish such activity, but they had not even deleted my name. [[27]], [[28]] and [[29]]

    Please take actions against perpertrators sr:Корисник:Славен Косановић [[30]] and sr:Корисник:Dungodung [[31]]. Help since community does not want to take any action. I am user sr:Корисник:Verlor [[32]] on serbian vikipedia. --Verlor 00:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, let's just start with the fact that he's accusing me again for things I haven't done. I mistakenly mentioned his real name a few months ago but he hasn't objected then, so I thought it's ok. But since then, I've never mentioned his real name and it is available to a group of users that are on the mailing list of SR Wikimedia. So, he's lying and putting links to places where you cannot possibly find out his "accusations" (as though they made some sense). Second of all, he forgot to mention that he's been vandalising Wikipedia since the day before yesterday, when he was desysopped... He's had a dozen attacks on some user's talk pages and project pages and he obviously has no intentions of stopping. We're dealing with this vandal as much as we can. He's going to be reported to his ISP(s) and that's the end of story. --Filip (§) 00:26, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    First of all Dungodung or here called Filip revealed my identity some time ago, but I have not noticed it until yesterday, when another bearocrat started to acusse me. I mentioned them to stop reporting my name in public, but they have not stopped. Yes I started war after being banned for good really for nothing, compared what they had been talking to me, that I mad. Not only one of them, but they started personal attacks on me talking about madness at least 20 times in one day, Kosanovic talking that I should take vibrators at leat 15 times. I responded with personal attack that was not intented to one person, but was general and was metaphora. They broke all rules there. Since then I started war because it was big injustice. Now they revealed my identity.--213.244.209.36 00:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Look now again revealing my identity [[33]]

    and again [[34]]--212.200.200.10 21:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Revealing personal identity is very serious thing. If you can not or could not act with investigation upon that metter, could you tell us, what should be done? Is there any procedure which could protect Verlor? I could imagine that not knowing serbian is big obstacle. --Manojlo 12:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    since obviously verlor seriously misbehaved: please refrain from further attempts at trying to turn the case around. i will wait for the outcome of the complaint to his isp as well. btw any page versions mentioning personal data can easily be rfd'd. if verlor really wanted the privacy he says he desires, he should have quitely requested version deletion without much ado, instead of actively going about attracting international attention to his real name.oscar 23:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Opheffing blokkering Mythologica[edit]

    Geachte Oscar

    Ik wil even met je praten over de blokkering van mijn gebruiker: Mythologica. Ik heb oprecht spijt van mijn daden i.v.m. de sokpopperij en ik verzoek u nu, alsjeblieft, hef de blokkering op. Ik weet dat ik een brief zou moeten schrijven naar een medewerker maar ik ken geen adressen. Het spijt me, ik beloof plechtig NOOIT meer zoiets of iets anders slecht te doen bij Wikipedia. En als de kans bestaat dat je de blokkering opheft zou ik verder willen werken op Wikipedia NL onder mijn oorspronkelijk gebruikersnaam: Mythologica.

    Met oprechte spijt in het hart

    Ruben Geleyns, alias Mythologica (7 okt 2006 16:02)

    ??? Ik zou graag een antwoord krijgen. Mythologica 10 okt 2006 17:19
    sokpopperij is een zeer ernstig vergrijp, temeer daar je bovendien ook nog eens meermaals gelogen hebt nadat ernaar gevraagd werd. ik kan geen uitzondering maken. verdere woorden hierover horen hier op meta niet thuis. oscar 23:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Dus hoelang ben ik geblokkeerd? 10 okt 12:55
    totdat je aan de voorwaarden van de ontsnappingsclausule op de blokkeringsmeldingenpagina voldoet. oscar 16:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Ik ken geen adres van een (betrouwbare) medewerker! Heb je soms een adres voor mij? Mythologica 12 okt 17:20
    Hallo? 18 okt 2006
    Kom op, Wikipedia is mijn leven! Ik kan niet zonder, de-blokkeer me alsjeblieft! 18 okt 2006 17: 25
    ??? 23 okt 2006 17:53

    Russian Copyright Law issues[edit]

    What do you think about commons:Commons:Village pump#Russian Copyright Law issues concerning edits in Wikipedia made by Russian citizens? --Jaroslavleff 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Beblokkeer me alsjeblief!![edit]

    Oscar, ik heb er echt spijt van, maar ja gedane zaken nemen geen keer. Dus alsjeblieft deblokkeer me, ik wil echt graag bijdragen op Wikipedia, ik ben er aan "verslaafd"! Ik weet dat ik de ontsnappingsclausule zou moeten gebruiken, maar ik ken geen adres (voor een brief) van een betrouwbare medewerker (en mijn identiteitskaart doorgeven, zo graag doe ik dat niet hoor). Trouwens ik ben (net) 14, alsjeblieft deblokkeer me gewoon, laat me verderwerken op Wikipedia NL en zet maar een streepje op mijn "Wiki-strafblad".

    Mythologica ( 1 nov 2006 14:15 (CEST))

    Beste Mythologica, dit soort gesmeek brengt je niet verder. Als je echt serieus bent, stuur dan eerst een duidelijk emailtje over hoe je het wilt aanpakken naar mij (nielsf (apestaartje) wikipedia (punt) be, dan wil ik best wel met oscar bespreken hoe we dit oplossen (naar welk adres etc.) Mvg, NielsF 23:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Question[edit]

    Hi,

    What does greetz mean? Is it a Dutch word?

    Thanks,

    Created Account 13:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    It is some kind of abbreviated version of world greetings and means something like it. Read more: wikt:en:greetings, wikt:en:greeting -- mzlla 13:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Request to Stewards[edit]

    I've posted a Request that is specifically addressed to Stewards, since it appears to be a delicate matter. Please review it and express your opinion. Thank you, M/ M/ 22:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    FYI steward-status[edit]

    [Stewards] - a new steward election will be held soon. The most likely date for the election to start is 25th of November. This date can still change. Like it is now all existing stewards will need to reapply if they wish to remain steward. The rules of this procedure are still under discussion. All existing stewards and interested users for the function of steward can best apply as soon as possible.
    --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 18:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Help![edit]

    A robot is destroying the breton wikipedia completely, and there is no administrator there to stop it! Could you help me to solve the problem: i.e. stop the robot? Thanks in advance! Benoni on the breton wikipedia.

    German Wikipedia, Administrator Eike[edit]

    Dear Oscar! I hope you can help, please look on the discussion page of Paginazero:
    My support question to Paginazero

    Kindest regards

    Stefan Pofahl A.Bebel--134.60.98.67 16:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Congrats![edit]

    ;-) . --Zuirdj 04:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    

    Re: Welcome back[edit]

    Thank you. I now have some time and hope to be active. -Romihaitza 15:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you[edit]

    Thank you, Oscar, for your work and for your support. Ciao, M/ 23:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    grazie a tu! dear m7, i should also thank you because you're going to be a big support as a steward no doubt ;-) grtz, oscar 00:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you. :)--Shanel 00:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    very welcome and, as i said just above: thanking you in advance as well ;-) oscar 00:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Steward elections[edit]

    Hello, Oscar! I noticed you just posted the results of the steward elections; you wrote that "the 12 users" with over 80% support (and over 30 support votes) had been promoted. However, 13 of the 15 candidates have garnered over 80%: it seems like you inadvertantly left out Mzlla, who had 42 supports and 6 opposes for 88% support. (See User:Gurch/StewardElections) Was this an oversight? Only 2 of the 15 candidates - Lar and Taxman - had less than 80% support, so I noticed the discrepancy immediately. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 04:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S. I assume this means that all current stewards are confirmed, or will any of them lose their rights? Thanks again! Flcelloguy (A note?) 04:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    dear fcelloguy, i am afraid you are looking at the wrong page there: no voting was done at gurch's subpage and the counting on it is in this case completely wrong and misleading, due to its authors overlooking a mistake in the numbering earlier on. please look at Stewards/elections_2006-2#mzlla and you will see mzlla has in fact 12 opposing votes with 42 support, and thus has 78%. best, oscar 10:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    I apologize; I was in such a rush earlier that I only looked at the bot's tally and assumed it was up-to-date, instead of checking it against the actual votes, as I should have done. Thanks for the clarification, though! Does this also mean that all the current stewards are confirmed? Flcelloguy (A note?) 05:04, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    dear fcelloguy, at the top of Stewards/confirm i read "At the end of the elections, the current and newly elected stewards will consider complaints left on this page, and choose to remove stewardship as necessary taking into account both the comments left by community and their own perspective and understanding of the job". this clearly states that the confirmation, contrary to the new appointments, is a matter for the stewards/community to decide, and not for the board. imho the normal confirmation procedure for sysops on meta can best serve as an example here (see Meta:Administrators and Meta:Administrators/confirm), as this seems to work well. best, oscar 14:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Report from Frankfurt[edit]

    Oscar,

    ca:WS sysop OK[edit]

    Hello, Oscar. I've read your comment at ca:s:Usuari Discussió:Aleator#bureaucratbit. Don't worry about that, we'll wait for more sysops (and users). Moltes gràcies i a reveure (Thank you very much and see you). Aleator 15:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    hi,

    im am writing here since comments at the above page are not allowed.

    you are right, we donot have any community at ur.wiktionary right now . All wiktionary editors are basically ur.wikipdia editors.

    with

    I was trying to make Wahab bureaucrat since he was more interested in working at wiktionary.

    We wont be translation ur.wiktionary System messages (excluding CSS and JavaScript) since we have already done a lot of work at Urdu wikipedia


    so please give bureaucrat status to anyone of us or atleast admin status to me wikt:ur:user:سیف اللہ Wisesabre 20:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Blokkering[edit]

    Oscar,

    Op 6 oktober had je me geblokkeerd voor sokpopperij, waarvan ik nu oprecht spijt heb... Deze blokkering vervalt op 6 april. Als die dag aanbreekt (of zelfs ervoor nog als het kan) zou ik graag willen dat al mijn accounts, inclusief Mythologica, verwijdert worden. Ik ben van plan helemaal opnieuw te beginnen, met een schone lei. Sorry voor al die last die ik u heb/had bezorgd.

    Mvg

    Mythologica (voorlopig)

    Shalom[edit]

    I am Oded, the sysop from HE WP who bugged you a bit on skype :) Leaving this message at your request. Odedee 06:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    thx for bugging me oded :-) shalom, oscar 23:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Board election?[edit]

    Will you be appointed, or stand for election? IV.3 is not clear. -- Jeandré, 2007-06-03t10:47z

    i was appointed like kat for 6 months, on one of the two seats with which the board expanded last december, in the future open for elected candidates for a regular two years term. we are to remain appointed board members until the same date as ends the term of the elected member erik moeller, who was elected for 9 months to complete the term of angela after her resignation. it was kat and i who were appointed since we came in as nrs 2 and 3 after erik in the results of the elections of 2006. all three of us have incomplete terms therefore, ending at the same moment.
    i will stand for re-election as well, since the work we did in the last 6 months needs to be continued and taken into its next phase, personally i hope by the exact same people; this board has grown into a diverse yet efficient team by now. best regards, oscar 23:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm busy creating an article for the Wikipedia Signpost about the board election candidates' positions on certain topics, and was wondering if you'd like to answer some questions:
    1. Will you vote for ads on Wikimedia sites?
      1. yes
        1. pop-ups/flash/banners/graphics
        2. flash/banners/graphics in skin whitespace or at bottom
        3. company logos in site notices
        4. prominent text ads
        5. company names in site notices
        6. text ads in skin whitespace or at bottom
        7. opt out
        8. opt in
        9. other
      2. only for a huge amount of money
      3. only during budget emergencies
      4. only if editors support it
      5. never
      6. other
    2. What are your thoughts on Wikimedia branding?
    3. What are your thoughts on the foundation's hiring of a business developer? -- Jeandré, 2007-06-04t19:14z

    dear jeandré, i will try to answer your questions in a concise way, as clear as possible. if you have any further questions, please let me know.

    1. Will you vote for ads on Wikimedia sites?
      • it depends a bit on style and context but personally i do not like advertisements in general, i tend to even avoid looking at them, avoid listening to them, when i can. more important for me in this respect however is that wikimedia retains her independence and freedom. for this, economic independence is required, which means generating some kind of an income out of our potential. with the amount of traffic the wikimedia projects currently attract, other income generating activities are perfectly possible, even though its advertising potential is enormous. oscar 09:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    2. What are your thoughts on Wikimedia branding?
    3. What are your thoughts on the foundation's hiring of a business developer?
      • i am very happy we are starting to have the essential jobs of wikimedia-staff being perfomed by more than one person only, in collaboration with the community of course. business development in my opinion is a crucial task. oscar 09:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Many thanks for answering. -- Jeandré, 2007-06-08t12:47z
    One more question: How would you vote on the board about the foundation reducing or offsetting anthropogenic greenhouse gases, e.g. power used by hardware, flights, etc.? -- Jeandré, 2007-06-08t12:58z

    the above was copied to Board_elections/2007/Candidates/Oscar/questions where further questions are being asked and answered. oscar 11:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    These answers won't be part of an article on Signpost. -- Jeandré, 2007-06-13t11:08z

    i take it this is to avoid unbalancing the attention on the candidates, and i support this decision. best regards, oscar 12:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Welcome[edit]

    Thanks Oscar, what shall I do? Meateater 09:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    look around to get an idea of where you are; you may prefer this project perhaps? best, oscar 09:51, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    ach sorry i see you found your way there already ;-)

    Usurpation[edit]

    Thanks for such a quick response to my usurpation request (and one placed on another user's talk page, at that!). Are you able to do the same for a Commons account? I'm OsgoodeLawyer (with a capital L this time) over there, and I'd again like to get Lexicon (yet again a completely non-editing account). If it's possible, however, I'd like a full usurpation done, as occurred on en.wiki, since I have a fairly extensive history of editing with my account over there, and wouldn't want to lose that. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Lexicon 17:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Bastique tells me he loves to help you if you post your request on commons:COM:CHU Effeietsanders 18:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Done. Lexicon 18:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Questions for the Wikipedia Signpost[edit]

    Hi! My name is Ral315, and I'm the editor-in-chief of the Wikipedia Signpost, a weekly newspaper on the English Wikipedia. I'm sending out an optional questionnaire that I hope you'll respond to. These questions will be published in next week's issue, and hopefully translated into many languages and copied to the Meta-Wiki prior to the election. (So, if you speak multiple languages, it'd be fantastic, though certainly not required, if you'd be willing to translate your answers into any languages you speak fluently.)

    There's no word limit on any of these questions, but I suggest that brevity (maybe about 300-400 words per answer) is best. If at all possible, answers should be submitted by 16:00 UTC on Monday, June 25 (though late responses will also be accepted).

    I'm posting these to your talk pages because they don't really fit well on question pages (since many will repeat questions you've already answered). You can reply to me by e-mail, or at my English Wikipedia, English Wikinews or Meta talk pages.

    Thanks again for answering these, and good luck in the elections.

    Sincerely, Ral315


    1. Do you have any other usernames or pseudonyms?
      i use Oscar on all projects, except on some where this was already in use, such as on es.wikipedia where i use Oscarami.
    2. What current or former user rights or positions do you have, and on which projects? (i.e. administrator, bureaucrat, arbitrator, developer, steward, board member, etc.)
      admin on metawiki and on most dutch language projects
      bureaucrat on metawiki and on dutch wikipedia, wikinews and wikibooks
      steward on metawiki
      i founded a "rules and regulations committee" on dutch wikipedia
      member of the dormant special projects committee
      former founding president and board member of wikimedia nederland (i resigned from the board to avoid any conflict of interests)
    3. Outside of Wikipedia, what do you do for a living?
      i am a professional composer, member of componisten96 and teacher of music theory and composition as well as graduation thesis counsellor at codarts, the rotterdam conservatory.
    4. What languages do you speak?
      native dutch, near-native german and english, fluent in french. working knowledge of spanish and italian, and also some swedish, turkish and spoken cantonese.
    5. Why do you want to join the Board? What qualities do you feel you can bring to the Board?
      i am a professional composer and teacher at the rotterdam conservatory, in my professional career i have been an interim manager for years as well. it is an honor to have been added to the extended board and to have served as a board member since december 2006, but it is a pity that it was only for 6 months, in which there were a lot of difficult and urgent decisions to be made; i would appreciate a full term in which there is more opportunity to develop my ideas and initiatives (such as advisory council, statistics integration in management information system etc).
    6. About how much time do you think you'll put into the role?
      i resigned as president of wikimedia nederland to avoid any conflict of interests, but also because of the work involved. i expect to again invest/spend in between 15 and 40 hours per week, depending on the moment, like i did until now.
    7. Ideally, where do you see the Wikimedia Foundation in 5 years?
      50 wikimedia projects in different languages with over half a million articles, 50 wikimedia chapters on all habitable continents around the world founded, at least one staffed office on each continent, all with the wikimedia foundation still non-profit, independent and of course the mission unaltered.
    8. As a board member, how will you ensure a balance between openness and necessary privacy in board matters?
      looking again at the election platforms being, i recently decided i must and shall start a similar platform when elected for after the elections as well (yes: that is a promise), to create more openness and feedback from the communites, the latter is indeed our biggest asset, more important than the trademarks even.
    9. Recent discussion has centered around the Wikipedia and Wikimedia brands. How do you feel the Wikimedia brands should be used, or changed?
      please look at my edits on that metawiki page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_brand_survey i am very happy with the survey because this taps into the power and ideas of our community, a thing a want the board to do more structurally in fact.
    10. Wikimedia projects in developing nations are growing in popularity, but still lag far behind the more popular projects. What steps would you suggest to improve the quality, readership, and number of editors on smaller wikis?
      being a teacher myself, i know there is a lot of interest in all our projects (not just wikipedia) for use in education: we need to team up with such organizations. chapters can and should play a major role in this, which is why we should continue to (help) develop chapters.
    11. What do you feel should be done to increase participation on non-Wikipedia projects?
      create more awareness through a clearer wikimedia-brand and consequent use of coherent logo-design.
    12. As a board member, what strategies would you consider to raise money for the Foundation?
      more effective use of our brands and tapping into the huge potential of regular *big* sponsoring by friendly foundations (even in the u.s. this is a largely unused potential until now).
    13. What else do you want to say to voters? (This is a good place to answer a question specific to your candidacy that you think should be answered)
      some critics seem to believe in a more centrally governed wikimedia foundation, even ruled by outside specialists. i on the other hand believe in the our fundamental and main potential as a grassroots-organization that develops chapters worldwide and becomes a kind of "mycelium", a more network-like worldwide structure that does not have a single point of failure!
    answers emailed! sorry for the delay, partly because of my birthday on 25th... best regards, oscar 08:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Oi[edit]

    Happy birthday & good luck in the election!--Eloquence 23:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    thank you very much erik, i also wish you all the best in the election, and hope we may afterwards continue our fruitful cooperation! best wishes, oscar 00:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature[edit]

    Hello, Oscar! I noticed that you use a template for your signature. Does meta have a policy on this? I know templatized signatures are to be avoided on en Wikipedia because they are a strain on the servers and can be targets for vandalism. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Dar-Ape 22:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    not that i am aware of, mets501 notified me and i asked how to fix this (according to en.wikipedia policies apparently) here, maybe you know how i could adapt it? thx and greetz, oscar 23:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    My pleasure. It will look the same if you do this:
    1. Copy this text:
    [[User:Oscar|<font color="red">o</font><font color="orange">s</font><font color="yellow">c</font><font color="green">a</font><font color="blue">r</font>]]
    2. Go to "My preferences" -> User Profile -> Nickname, and paste the above text into the box.
    3. Select "Raw Signature."
    4. You are done! Sign with ~~~~ from now on.
    Hope this helps. Best of luck in the election, Dar-Ape 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    thx for the help, i expected another solution to pop up but this is in fact "back to my earlier version" (see higher up on this page) ;-) greetz, oscar 09:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    re: translation[edit]

    You're welcome! :D ~Rex••talk•• 14:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Please provide source and licence details for this image otherwise it might be deleted according to policy as it currently has an unknown copyright status. Thanks. Adambro 13:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi oscar,
    Unfortunately, I saw you added a non-free license. You gave it a CC-NC-ND license, which is not allowed on metawiki per the deletion policy. I hope you're in good contact with the author and can persuade him (her? :P) to allow a free (non-ND and non-NC) license :) Best regards, Effeietsanders 11:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    PS: please note that the upload page sais: "By uploading a file here to which you hold the copyright, you agree to licence it under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. If you do not want to use the GFDL, you must upload your files to the Wikimedia Commons." Hence, if you are the owner of hte copyright, I am afraight you have to choose GFDL :) Effeietsanders 11:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image:Oscar.jpg[edit]

    Following a request here, it is requested that you make the necessary alterations to the license on the image entitled Image:Oscar.jpg. Thank you. Cordially, ----Anonymous DissidentTalk 04:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    thx for notifying me, i now removed the image here. best regards, oscar 11:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    ps - funny that now a commons image is seen in its place :-D oscar 11:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    hehe, yeah, but you could have released the image into the 'Public Domain' or uploaded to commons since we believe the pic was very useful on meta and now, I picturize you as Oscar Wilde ..hehehe.. :P ..--Cometstyles 11:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Request for check user[edit]

    Hi, Oscar. I am here on behalf of all active users from Azerbaijani wikipedia . First I want to inform you that azeri wikipedia does not have user with access of check user. So we came to the decision to request you for checking the user Uannis and sysop Memty. Because we suspect that on the 18th of January, 2008 sysop Memty gave his username and password to the user Uannis for deleting pages in the category of speedy deletion during a day. But Uannis did not missed this opportunity and deleted more than 4000 articles and media files without showing any reason, blocked the user Kızılsungur. We discussed this issue in the community protal. Uannis denies all the blames, Memty does not want to write anything. So we will be pleased to meet you in azeri wikipedia and hope that you will solve this problem.

    P.S. : By the way here are the signatures of users for check user request. "Çağıraq" means let us call the check user :). We only want you to check above mentioned users IP numbers, which were active on the 18th of January. If you check the contributions of both users you can see that Uannis was not active on that day. Because he used the username of Memty all day.

    --Vusal1981 00:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    dear vusal, merhaba! please have some patience, your request has been noticed. kendine iyi bak, oscar 11:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear Oscar. Steward Drini checked these to users and here wrote the results. So I put the results to the az wiki community portal. But sysop AMD does not want to block the user Uannis. Because they are friends. But I am again writing here on behalf of azeri wiki community. They all want Uannis to be blocked as a result of vandal activity on the 18th of January. AMD again and again does not listen to us and using his authority. Uannis also blocked the user Kizilsungur using the account of Memty. I think that you have to write to AMD as a steward. Because his does not listen to anybody in wikipedia. We do not have another active sysop to tell. Having look at this situation you can see that it is teh breach of unwritten rules. Sysop gave his account to the user. Of course it is not to be allowed. Thanks in advance.

    --Vusal1981 12:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    dear vusal, i have checked and estimated the situation closely as best i can.
    1. as far as i can see, no urgent steward action is needed after memty resigned from sysop, right?
    2. i think it is high time the users start a general discussion (and later perhaps some voting) on accepting conventions, guidelines and rules you can refer to; i strongly advise you to start a serious discussion about it.
    3. i advise you to distinguish between conventions (loose and generally accepted), guidelines (more strict, helpful tips) and rules (strict) in this process.
    all the best, oscar 11:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    nl.wikinews bot flag[edit]

    Mind taking a look at this request? -- Cat chi? 18:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

    Oscar, I've already attended this request and placed the bot flag. Chris 18:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    SUL (es.wikibooks)[edit]

    Please read this, --LadyInGrey 02:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    thx for helping out! grtz, oscar 08:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Read again. --LadyInGrey 14:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    thanx again, it works ;-) cheers, oscar 17:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    G'day Oscar[edit]

    Hope you're well - in fact I wonder if you might be in Egypt as I write this? who knows! I'm writing actually to let you know that I filed a request for arbitration at the english wikipedia here relating to the issues involving Guido den Broeder - some in that community share my view that there are some cross-wiki issues, particularly in this age of the 'Single User Login' which could be clarified somewhat - on en that role may be fulfilled by the arbcom, or maybe a community discussion.

    In either case, your thoughts, feedback or commentary would be most welcome, and I thought it would be courteous to let you know that we're talking about this issue which directly involves you,

    best wishes,

    Privatemusings 07:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    dear privatemusings, thank you for your notification. although i am fluent in english, i do hope you understand that under the current circumstances i will at this moment refrain from making any further comments here or on the english language wikipedia. i can however summarize some of the facts and make a list of permanent links to relevant passages. for your information, the email i sent to guido den broeder in reply to his email with the identical text he posted on my english language wikipedia talkpage on july 3rd [39] had the dutch arbcom in cc and so did his reply to it, the latter briefly announcing he will sue for slander, illegal appropriation of authority, violation of copyrights as well as encouraging these crimes (i.a.n.a.l. so my translation of these terms may not be the exactly proper legal ones).
    1. the original dutch arbcom case and decision, which summarizes the problems on nl.wikipedia.org until september 2007 and arbcom decisions: 1. appointment of me as guido's mentor, further including 2. article by guido den broeder about himself and adding himself as source; 3. editing or removing other users' comments on talkpages by guido den broeder; 4. block requests by and for guido den broeder; and 5. editwars in which guido den broeder is involved
    2. block and unblock and arbcom pronounces continuation of mentorate in april 2008
    3. summary of decisions by the mentor
    4. online report of the mentorate (including complete history of discussions)
    5. online report of the mentorate (including full discussions from prior page)
    6. guido's block log on the dutch language wikipedia, the last one being his indefinite block instated by the arbcom
    7. current dutch wikipedia arbcom page, including several cases filed against me by guido den broeder; at the moment i am writing this, only one has been completed, resulting in an indefinite block of guido den broeder on the dutch wikipedia, pronounced by the arbcom
    8. Metapub#Sysop_out_of_control includes a summary of guido den broeder's complaints on meta
    9. full overview of guido den broeder's contributions to the wikimedia projects
    i hope this feedback of mine will yet somehow help towards more clarity in the case you brought to my attention. all the best, oscar 14:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    User Laurier[edit]

    Hoi Oscar! Ik werk zo nu en dan in de Nederlandse wiki (gebruiker Laurier) en heb geprobeerd om diezelfde naam geregistreerd te krijgen in andere wiki's. Het proces is nogal mistig, vind ik. Het lijkt of het is gelukt in een aantal wiki's (commons, de Italiaanse, de Spaanse) maar er wordt mij gemeld dat er conflicten zijn met de Engelse (belangrijk!), de Duitse, de Franse en de Chinese wiki. Kun jij me alsjeblieft helpen? Is er een user die Laurier heet in de Engelse? Dat ben ik toch? Ik heb daar ook wel eens wat gewijzigd... Toch? Laurier 10:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Desysop Troefkaart op zea:[edit]

    The following discussion is closed.

    Dag Oscar, even een vraagje.

    Het Tjako-debat heeft zich naar de Zeeuwse Wikipedia verplaatst :-(. Terwijl de pagina over Tjako van Schie op de Nederlandse Wikipedia gewist is, zijn er op de Nedersaksische en Zeeuwse Wikipedia vertalingen van het oorspronkelijke artikel aangemaakt. De Zeeuwse versie werd toen gewist door Troefkaart, waarna een debat op gang kwam in zea:Wikipedia:Durpsuus. De uitkomst daarvan was 'terugzetten'; iedereen was daarvoor op Troefkaart na. Uiteindelijk heb ik het artikel dan ook teruggezet. Niettemin heeft Troefkaart het sindsdien meerdere keren op eigen houtje weer verwijderd, omdat hij nou eenmaal dat artikel niet wil zien. Hij gaat dus tegen de beslissing van de meerderheid en de mening van mede-editors in. Bovendien heeft hij Tjako, die op zea bekend staat als zea:Gebruker:Roadrunner, voor altijd geblokkeerd, enkel en alleen vanwege een paar discussiebijdragen in 't Durpsuus. Hij misbruikt in mijn ogen zijn moderatorrechten. Na een paar vermaningen heb ik daarom besloten hier om een desysop te vragen.

    Ik vraag dit juist aan jou. Ik vind Tjako (ook?) een ongelofelijke querulant die het altijd maar weer voor malloten opneemt. Die mening staat echter los van deze kwestie. Ik hoop dat jij het hierin ook met mij eens bent, in die zin dat een artikel niet verwijderd moet worden als één moderator dat vindt. Als jij dat zegt, die toch niet als Tjako's grootste vriend bekend staat, zet dat Troefkaart misschien aan het denken. Hoe dan ook: ik wil hem niet meer als sysop, want hij misbruikt zijn knopjes keihard voor iets wat puur persoonlijkgeworden is. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 08:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Aanvulling: de uitkomst was niet terugzetten. Tjako heeft o.a. zijn IP en een andere naam misbruikt om de consensus te beïnvloeden. Verder heeft, afgezien van Steinbach en ondergetekende, niemand ook maar enig belang bij de Zeeuwse Wikipedia. Steinbach heeft aangegeven geen peilingen te willen, maar maakt zijn beslissing wel op basis van een peiling en aangezien Tjako wel zijn best heeft gedaan vriendjes erbij te halen is de uitkomst van zo'n peiling natuurlijk snel duidelijk.
    Een verzoek tot desysop is trouwens iets dat op de Zeeuwse Wikipedia genomen dient te worden, niet hier. Verder dient, als zo'n verzoek toch gedaan wordt, volledige informatie gegeven te worden en dat is nu duidelijk niet het geval. Aangezien Steinbach toch meent zijn verzoek hier te moeten plaatsen hoeft hij voor mij ook geen sysop meer te zijn. Dat zal ik op de Zeeuwse Wikipedia nemen, maar als de Wikipedia twee sysops verliest kan de boel daar wel gesloten worden. Lijkt me niet de bedoeling, ♠ Troefkaart 15:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm, als ik hier ongevraagd ook mag reageren.. het lijkt me alsof zaken hier totaal uit de hand dreigen te lopen. Op zea: lijken praktisch gezien slechts Steinbach en Troefkaart actief te zijn als gebruiker (even de discussiegebruikers niet mee gerekend, die alleen op het recente rumoer afkomen). Het lijkt me dan ook veel beter om gewoon deze twee gebruikers te laten proberen het eens te laten worden (een compromis te vinden?) eventueel met bemiddeling. Een desysop lijkt me hier niet logisch gezien de zeer kleine community en de eigenlijk beperkte omvang van het gebeuren. Effeietsanders 16:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • ik bied (indien nog nodig) in ieder geval bij deze aan te bemiddelen tussen de beide sysops steinbach en troefkaart, bij voorkeur via live overleg op irc. groetjes, oscar 10:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tjako is vertrokken, dus Troefkaart kan tevreden zijn. Pieter2 22:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Fijn om te horen Oscar, inmiddels wel ik echter nog een aanvulling op het dossier "misbruik van moderatorknopjes" maken. Vandaag meldde zich een nieuwe gebruiker Guido den Broeder aan. Deze user werd bij voorbaat door Troefkaart voor onbepaalde tijd geblokkeerd wegens copyrightschenking op wikisage.nl. Ik vind dit bizar dat een user bij voorbaat geblokkeerd kan worden.Hier link naar aanmelding gebruiker [40]. Bistromatic 21:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Dank voor deze melding en je protest, Bistromatic. Ik zie net pas dat er dus al een discussie loopt over het wangedrag van de heer Troefkaart. Voor de goede orde: van enige copyrightschending is op Wikisage geen sprake, zo is ons vandaag nog bevestigd. De heer Troefkaart is echter bij ons permanent geblokkeerd wegens pogingen tot sabotage en zijn motieven zullen daaruit voortkomen. Guido den Broeder 21:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oscar, ik ben altijd bereid tot bemiddeling, noem een tijd en plaats. Bistromatic kan zijn energie beter steken in argumentatie op :zea in plaats van hier en op :nl te gaan lopen emmeren, want enige argumentatie ontbreekt ook hier. Op :zea is hij trouwens nog niet verder gekomen dan het verwijderde artikel onder verkeerde namen aanmaken. De enige plaats waar de discussie plaats kan vinden is :zea, maar ik moet overal toelichting geven behalve daar, dat is storend. Guido den Broeder is, zoals je weet, een trol met geen enkele intentie om bij te dragen aan welk serieus project dan ook. Zijn bijdrage hier onderstreept dat maar weer eens, voor zover het nog niet duidelijk was. ♠ Troefkaart 13:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Kijkend naar de lijst met bijdragen van deze moderator zie ik enkel 1. gespeel met mediawiki bestandjes, en 2. gespeel met Tjako van Schie als a. artikel of b. persoon(roadrunner) of c. mensen die zih ermee bemoeien of d. en wheelwar met een medemoderator in deze materie. Inhoudelijk heeft Troefkaart dus praktisch nul komma niks bijgedragen op zeeland het afgelopen jaar aan inhoudelijke artikelen. Zo'n "moderator" verdient geen bitjes. 82.74.166.225 14:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)(alias Tjako van Schie)[reply]
    Dat is jouw mening die, zoals gewoonlijk, weer eens niets toevoegt. Het draagt in ieder geval geenszins bij aan de discussie of een onbekende pianist een artikel moet hebben op :zea. Geen van de opzichters daar draagt veel bij, ik doe tenminste mijn best nog om het zuiver te houden en teksten te vertalen. Bijna alle bijdragers aan de peiling die ervoor gezorgd heeft dat Steinbach het artikel terugplaatste zijn inmiddels ontmaskerd als sokpoppen. Deze discussie dient op :zea gevoerd te worden door mensen die binding hebben met :zea, niet hier door daar geblokkeerde gebruikers die die binding niet hebben. Dus bij deze een herhaalde oproep aan Bistromatic om daar eens te argumenten in plaats van hier een foutieve voorstelling van zaken te geven (zie Metapub). ♠ Troefkaart 14:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Zolang jij als Zeeuw ook op niet-zeeuwse wiki's bezig bent, mogen niet zeeuwen ook op de zeeuwse bezig zijn. Zolang jij iedereen die het niet met je eens is blokkeert aldaar valt er weinig te discussieren. Dus eerst iedereen maar eens ontblokken, meneer de "moderator"/"dictator". 82.74.166.225 16:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC) (aka Tjako van Schie)[reply]
    Als altijd sla je de toetsen weer mis. De taal niet spreken is geen criterium voor blokkade, het gaat om de intentie iets goeds te willen doen. Jij geilt alleen op je eigen artikel en Guido heeft nog nooit iets goed willen doen. Je blokkade was trouwens op advies van Meta, meneer de "onbekende pianist". ♠ Troefkaart 23:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Twee opmerkingen: 1. Troefkaart is een erg vette dikke zeeuwse en hollandse trol, die het nooit nalaat te provoceren. 2. Troefkaart is een gevaar voor alle wiki's, aangezien zijn handelwijze rechtstreeks vijandig is naar medegebruikers, ex-medegebruikers, en diverse wikiprojecten zeer veel onherstelbare schade toebrengt. 82.74.166.225 00:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ik ben niet dik! ♠ Troefkaart 01:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Gezien het feit dat ik in de korte perioden dat ik mocht editen toch zo'n 200 artikelen op nl:Wikipedia uit de modder heb getrokken, merkwaardige opmerkingen van de heer Troefkaart aan mijn adres, die vooral veel zeggen over hemzelf voorzover dat nog nodig was. Kan er een beetje voortgang worden geboekt, misschien? Guido den Broeder 00:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Misschien is het wijzer deze zaak aan een andere steward te geven, gezien de betrokkenen. Oscar is niet objectief genoeg, en gaat mee in afkeurenswaardig gedrag van Troefkaart door pagina's op NL wiki te beveiligen met rechtstreekse PA's. Zie hier wat beveiligd is, nadat troefkaart dit deed hetgeen ik trachtte te reverten op grond van algehele fatsoensnormen.82.74.166.225 00:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Heren , laten we hier elkaar nou niet al te uitgebreid in de haren vliegen, aangezien Oscar al met de zaak bezig is. Vooral de PA's kunnen wat mij betreft achterwege blijven. Ik denk namelijk dat Troefkaart helemaal niet dik is aangezien hij naar eigen zeggen op een conservenbedrijf werk en dus waarschijnlijke elke dag een hoop gezond groente en fruit eet. Verder vind ik de betiteling "hollandse trol" absoluut niet kunnen. Ik vind het schandalig iemand voor hllander uit te maken. Noem iemand dan een ander scheldwoord, maar hollander is wel het ergste wat ik mij kan voorstellen. Bistromatic 07:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oscar, (dus niet alle anderen) ik heb nog 1 extra klacht over Troefkaart. Gisteren heeft hij een user wegens sokpoppen voor eeuwig geblokkeerd. Dit was zonder aan te geven vanwie deze user een sokpop is, zonder dat de user mogelijk misbruik had gemaakt van iets en bovendoen heeft Troefkaart bij mijn weten geen checkuser mogelijkheden, dus hij kan absoluut niet weten dat een user een sokpop is. Verder zijn er totaal geen regels voor het gebruik van een tweede account op zea-wiki, maar heeft troefkaart ze terplekke uitgevonden.Bistromatic 07:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hij zal hebben gedacht: wat Oscar kan, kan ik ook. Op nl werd ook weer een welwillende, deskundige gebruiker zonder enig bewijs van misbruik uitgeschakeld. Guido den Broeder 08:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ik begrijp echt niet waarom dit zo lang moet duren. Het kost een steward maar een paar seconden om zichzelf rechten te geven op zea: en Troefkaart's modbitje af te nemen. Guido den Broeder 10:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Feit 1: een verzoek tot desysop dient afgehandeld te worden op :zea, voor welke steward dan ook het bitje af kan nemen.
    • Feit 2: Die vandaal en Kamphuus zijn bevestigd als sokpop van elkaar door een checkuser. Aangezien ze allebei de discussie omtrent het artikel over een onbekende pianist hebben beïnvloed zijn ze allebei geblokkeerd. Er zijn geen richtlijnen op :zea over hoe om te gaan met sokpoppen, maar algemeen kan gesteld worden dat misbruik van sokpoppen niet gewenst is. Ik zal op :zea een discussie openen over hoe we dáár om moeten gaan met sokpoppen.
    • Feit 3: vrijwel alle bijdragers aan de discussie omtrent het artikel over een onbekende pianist zijn inmiddels ontmaskerd als sokpop of als Tjako van Schie zelf. Dit zou serieuze invloed moeten hebben op de redenen waarom Steinbach het artikel terugplaatste.
    • Feit 4: afnemen van mijn knoppen maakt een klein project als :zea zeer kwetsbaar voor vandalisme, aangezien ik de enige actieve opzichter daar schijn te zijn. Deze middag heb ik nog actie moeten ondernemen tegen een vandaal. Mocht echter op :zea besloten worden dat ik mijn knoppen in moet leveren zal ik dat uiteraard accepteren.
    • Feit 5: Bistromatic praat overal over het artikel van de onbekende pianist behalve op de plaats waar het hoort: zea. Het zou zeer op prijs gesteld worden als hij of zij eens op de correcte wiki argumenteerde over waarom een artikel over een onbekende pianist moet worden opgenomen in de betreffende encyclopedie.
    • Feit 6: ik ben niet dik omdat ik gewoon geen aanleg heb om dik te worden. Beseffend dat ik nu menig gebruiker jaloers maak: ik kan eten wat ik wil. Voor ik ging werken bij mijn huidige werkgever heb ik o.a. gewerkt in een ijs- en een frietfabriek, zonder maar een gram aan te komen.

    Waarom er hier zoveel tekst staat zonder dat op de correcte plaats ook maar iets te vinden is, bevreemd me meer en meer. ♠ Troefkaart 15:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    De correcte plaats schijnt het archief te zijn, heb ik begrepen. Daar is genoeg te vinden. Guido den Broeder 17:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Robotje heeft een voorstel gedaan op zea en zal met Troefkaarts evt. instemming sysop daar worden. Ik heb toegezegd de discussie weer naar zea te brengen. Verder wil ik graag ooit sysop op zea worden, maar dat kan pas als alles daar is uitgepraat denk ik. Voor nu wil ik alleen nog toevoegen dat ik ook alles kan eten zonder dik te worden. Zeeuwen, da bin ewoan hezond volk dienk 'k eej?
    Waarom Robotje? Verder lijkt me dat tevens de div onterechte blokkades en verwijderingen teruggedraaid dienen te worden. Van Binsbergen 20:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Omdat Robotje die enige is die door ons tweeen geaccepteerd wordt. Ik weet dat het niet ideaal is, maar als Troefkaart tijdelijk zijn moderatorschap neerlegd, kan er weer overlegd nmet argumenten. Uiteraard ben ik voor het terugdraaien van blokkeringen enzo, maar eerst moet er op de zea-wiki rust en wederzijds vertrwouen ontstaan.Bistromatic 20:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ons tweeen? Is dit niet een zaak die meer gebruikers aangaat? Robotje spreek geen Zeeuws en heeft in het betreffende conflict partij gekozen voor Troefkaart. Er moet een geschiktere kandidaat te vinden zijn lijkt me. Van Binsbergen 21:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Goh, Die vandaal ontbrak nog in deze discussie. Ik kan prima leven met Robotje als bemiddelaar, maar de hele trollenkast van Wikisage kan ik missen als kiespijn. Als het er op neerkomt dat trollen als Tjako, Guido den Broeder en Die vandaal ontblokt moeten worden is bemiddeling zinloos. ♠ Troefkaart 00:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Die vandaal is geen trol. Guido den Broeder is geen trol. Ik ben geen trol. Ontblokken IS zinvol, want geblokten kunnen zich niet tegen je beschuldigingen verweren op de geëigende plek. Robotje zou zelfs ik een kans willen geven op zea: om de orde te herstellen en het even van jou over te nemen wanner je binnenkort ge-desysop'd wordt, al zal hij wel vertrouwen moeten opbouwen daar.82.74.166.225 00:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC) (aka Tjako)[reply]
    Ik ben het met Van Binsbergen eens dat het bepaald niet nodig is om een niet-Zeeuw aan te stellen. Bistromatic heeft al aangegeven de taak ook zelf wel op zich te willen nemen. Hoe eerder dat gebeurt, hoe beter. Daar wil ik aan toevoegen dat ik met de heer Robotje buitengewoon slecht ervaringen heb. Hij heeft net als Troefkaart de neiging om conflicten te vergroten en te verspreiden. Niet geschikt als admin dus. Guido den Broeder 09:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah. Ik zie dat Van Binsbergen meteen na zijn bijdrage hier door Troefkaart op zea is geblokkeerd. Guido den Broeder 09:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Oscar, dit is een trollenbal waarin het onmogelijk is iets te bereiken. Je weet me te vinden als er iets is, verder denk ik dat we er op :zea wel uitkomen, aangezien de hier ziekende trollen aldaar geblokkeerd zijn. Groet, ♠ Troefkaart 10:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Voor trolbeschuldiging (enkel richting Troefkaart) ben ik vorige week een dag op de Meta geblokkeerd. Troefkaart kan hier blijkbaar ongestoord doorgaan met diverse mensen voor trol uitmaken? Voorts meent Troefkaart dat hij in zijn recht staat door gebruikers die het niet met hem eens zijn te blokkeren en uit te sluiten van discussies op :zea, zelfs voor ze ueberhaupt de kans hadden iets op te merken aldaar, en zelfs zonder concrete aanleiding. Er wordt dus met 2 maten gemeten. 82.74.166.225 11:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • ik heb al aangekondigd te willen bemiddelen tussen de sysops troefkaart en steinbach. bovenstaande discussie is daarom bij deze gesloten.
    • (en) i already announced to be willing to mediate between the sysops troefkaart and steinbach. the above discussion is therefore now closed.
    • ik laat te zijner tijd weten wat er uit is gekomen; in de tussentijd verzoek ik de oorspronkelijke verzoeker om geduld. oscar 12:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    oscar @ fawiki[edit]

    hello oscar you have request for for usurpation on fawiki though you made it at wrong place but i will move it to right place please here confirm that oscar in sul belongs to you.thank --Mardetanha talk 20:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    sorry to have misplaced my request and thank you very much for helping; yes this was me, trying to unify my accounts. all the best, oscar 22:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oscar is now up for grabs. Behaafarid 23:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Now your usurpation is done Your welcome.--Mardetanha talk 01:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    User rights[edit]

    Please sign here if you wish to continue holding user rights here. Thanks, Majorly talk 15:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    ga.wikipedia[edit]

    Hi there. Thanks for taking care of the vandalism there just now. One minor point; when you're deleting the vandalism page, don't forget to clear the default edit summary or the personal attacks remain in the logs. See here. Thanks again :) - Alison 21:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC) (ga.wikipedia sysop)[reply]

    Thanks again!! BTW, I translated your userpage there ^_^ - Alison 22:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    lol&thx!! now since translate.google.com has no ga:, if people start talking to me in gealic i'll come to you for a translation :-D oscar 22:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    btw see here i reverted this vandalism too, you may want to do sthg about this? :P all the best, oscar 22:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    o.o[edit]

    Hi Oscar,

    Het zal wel een complete n00b vraag zijn maar wat betekend botd?

    Groetjes,

    Huib talk 16:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    hetzelfde als vvdt ;-) groetjes, oscar 16:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    Selam, Oscar!!![edit]

    Hello Oscar. Thanks for your help. Since months, now it is smoothly displayed as Türkmençe thanks to your efforts. Would you please see this where Türkmençe is used as تركمن / Туркмен in 66th row (first part is Turkmen in Arabic letters, second part is Turkmen in Cyrillic alphabet in Russian Language). And, it is used as Türkmen here. Would you please help me to change both versions into Türkmençe. Best regards!!! --Hanberke 10:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello again, I have filed this issue to Spacebirdy, too. Don't get it wrong but i thought that you may not response it for a long while. Looking for your assistance. Best Regards --Hanberke 11:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    Waarom?[edit]

    Waarom heb je me geblokkeerd op WikiNews? Om mij van het hoogste doel af te houden? Geen enkele bewerking mijnerzijds rechtvaardigt een blokkade... Al met al verzoek ik je vriendelijk doch dringend je beslissing te heroverwegen. MMaerkk 12:04, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    i disagree. the site will be closed and i see no point in not preventing someone with this record to edit there at this point. regards, oscar 12:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    WikiNews is complety separated of Wikipedia. A preventive block isn't fair. My benevolent intentions are nevertheless visible on Wikipedia, my good contributions over there aren't visible in the record. It's a pity, but I can't do anything hereabout, it's your power, not mine. MMaerkk 12:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    Applying english wikipedia rules elsewhere[edit]

    Hello Mr. Oscar!

    My question is : are the policies and guidelines as read in english wikipedia the same as those applied by wikipedias in other languages? If the answer is "yes" (as I believe to be the case), can someone like you or other person in authority recall to romanian users with extended rights to stop removing content which originate from reliable sources and added by specifying these very sources? In fact, it seems that that would be just respecting and applying wikipedia’s own rules…

    My name is Remus Octavian Mocanu and I am a romanian living in french speaking province of Quebec, Canada. I am an agnostic and I think my own point of view concerning various religious subjects should be reflected too in romanian wikipedia, all the more as my opinions converge frequently with those expressed in many scientific or encyclopedic sources that qualify themselves as "reliable sources" according wikipedia’s own rules.

    I’ve tried to take part in the wikipedia project by editing different pages on romanian language wikipedia, but I frequently met with resistence from people with rights to remove repeatedly text, people having rights like you or more probable with functions inferior than yours but still having more rights than the simple occasional user as myself. Honestly I picked your name up from a list of people with authority without knowing for sure if you’re religious, fundamentalist or not religious at all, and there is still a hope in me that such affiliations actually doesn’t matter so much for an openminded individual when applying a regulation that he is supposed to respect and follow. Actually, what I see here on the english version is that people allow in religious matters both points of view, the traditional and the academic one. I know also that some romanian-speaking people involved in english wikipedia are sympathetic with those that keeps articles about religion "safe" from any "critical historical view" opinion.

    I always used material and information from reliable sources, usually scientific books or encyclopedias (I have acces to 10 or more online encyclopedias) and I am ready to subtantiate only with this kind of reliable sources ANY assertion made by me in ANY article text that I ever edited there. If just one such assertion originate in a source that is not perceived as reliable according english wikipedia rules, I am ready to accept as being my fault all dispute.

    As mentioned above, in my opinion this resistance has religious (or ethnic-nationalistic, or clannish maybe) roots, and as an example I take the article "judaism" ("iudaism" in romanian) in the romanian wikipedia (but on subjects about islam (e.g. "Quran" article ("Coran" in romanian)) and even christianism the text is sometimes also quickly reversed if the added information is perceived by some people with extended rights as somehow unacceptable, although this information too originate in reliable books, scientific articles or just paid encyclopedias): on these above-mentioned articles and some others concerning religious matters, a group of users with extended rights don’t allow other users like me to add content which express views and informations like those found in the section called "critical historical view" on english wikipedia, altough ALL that information is cited from reliable authors, scientific literature or encycliopedias like britannica, americana, the encyclopedias from Oxford Reference Online, the Macmillan Encyclopedias, the encyclopedias from Gale Virtual Reference or encyclopedias from Cengage Learning Online, etc.

    I guess the history of those changes in articles is still stored there and anyone can see who made what... Unfortunately there, there is no one to judge and take actions to force the respect of the rules: one person actively involved there till recently, told me last year in a private email that the problem originate in powerful individuals coming from the wikipedia's high hierarchy, that allow people to keep "safe" from any intervention some religious and ethnic-related subjects. I don't like and I don't believe any conspiration theory, but the resounding silence resembling a kind of omerta, makes me now think twice about this eventuality, although for the fact that there is no one there to enforce the respect of the rules, there is still a more simple and probable explanation: there should be no wonder with people ellected from a population which expresses strong religiosity in proportions even bigger than U.S. population, but which moreover has a long tradition of hijacking functions for personal or private group interests, to be so reluctant to accept diversity of opinions, even when these opinions are science's own.

    I had the same problem one year ago, when I abandoned disgusted any work there, with the hope that things evoluate spontaneously, thinking that a free ellection process by itself will do some good in putting more openminded people in administration functions, but now I have to face the evidence that nothing changed, not even the names...

    I thank you for just taking the time to read my message, and if you or your colleagues can do something to give a more decent image to wikipedia, all the better.

    Best wishes, Remus Octavian Mocanu

    Empty pages by Jebel[edit]

    Hello, Oscar. Indeed I have plans with those empty pages by JEBEL. Since he is one of the rearest contributors of tk wiki, I don't want to intervene him. First of all I will translate proper texts and fill the pages instead of deleting. I will also have some talk with him on the issue. By the way these days I'm very busy. I also have commitments in tk wiktionary. Thanks for reminding... Kind Regards! --Hanberke 04:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    thx for your reply; sounds very fine to me dear hanberke, and good luck with your work ;-) all the best, oscar 23:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Oscar,

    your work in combating vandalism and such is much appreciated. However, you're currently flooding recent changes, and were doing so earlier as well. Have you ever considered using the flood flag for repetitious activity? Best, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 14:42, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    actually i haven't, i'm sorry. also i am done now, shall i set it next time for these "occasions" perhaps? all the best, oscar 14:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I for one would have certainly have no objections against that. :-)   Regards, Wutsje 14:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    will do then :-D thx for the tip guys ;-) very best, oscar 14:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    "The good and the bad policeman"[edit]

    Hi, Oscar.
    I see that you already know that Bambifan (it was obviously him) was editing on hr.wiki this night 02:00-02:26 CET.
    Please see this IP: 68.220.174.246.
    This night he made "good" edits 68.220.174.246, reverting the "bad" edits of hr:user:Bambi and hr:Bambifan101rulestheworld, 23:10-23:15 CET. Few hours before the attack, that followed
    However, that IP range looks familiar. 68.220.xxx.xxx. Do we have business with same person that plays two roles at the same time, "the good and the bad policeman"?
    His final edit was this one [41]: asking one user to create the article about - Dumbo. Kubura 01:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Plus[edit]

    This - maybe longer is worth consideration. Regards --Herby talk thyme 19:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    just discussed it on irc, measures are being or have been taken. very best, oscar 19:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]