2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Wikidata/es

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Permitir enlazar redirecciones a elementos de Wikidata[edit]

Pantallazo mostrando varios pop-ups al pasar el mouse donde el objetivo (artículo para 'colección privada') se muestra así como las opciones de Wikidata. El "agregar/WD" está habilitado por javascript asociado con las listas Listeria de Magnus Manske.

Debería ser posible enlazar una redirección de Wikipedia a un elemento de Wikidata para que los usuarios de Wikipedia que hagan click en él vean un pop-up que ofrezca dos enlaces y les diga algo así: <título de la redirección> no existe en Wikipedia; proceda a <artículo destino de la redirección> o vea Wikidata <etiqueta del número Q de la redirección>. Teniendo tal facilidad nos permite 1) determinar cuántos redirecciones entrantes a un artículo en realidad son elementos discretos antes que pronunciaciones alternativas, y 2) hacerlo más visible a los editores para percibir la "necesidad" de crear nuevos artículos. Para conceptos grandes y agregados como Seguros sería útil saber cuántos enlaces entrantes deberían tener sus propios artículos. Nótese que esto no requiere nada de Wikidata, y se refiere a la funcionalidad de redirección de Wikipedia y sus projectos hermanos. Si alguien quisiera crear el artículo, pueden hacer click en el botón tal como lo hacen hoy para convertir redirecciones en artículos. Sería muy bueno si el elemento wikidata se preserva de alguna forma durante la creación del artículo para que el nuevo artículo pueda ser agregado a ese elemento Wikidata. La ventaja de este enfoque es que cualquier editor de Wikipedia puede utilizarlo en una redirección o no. Presumiblemente no todas las redirecciones merecen elementos de Wikidata y pueden ser mejor dirigidos al objetivo. Nótese que esta no es una solución al problema "Bonnie y Clyde" también conocido como Phabricator task T54564. --Jane023 (talk) 10:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support --Leyo (talk) 23:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support Kvardek du (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Linked to "Alias"?--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
    1. No, it's precisely the titles in the Alias part of the Wikidata label that would *not* be eligible for this, as those are just alternate ways of naming the target. --Jane023 (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support Even for internal links to existing pages, linking via Wikidata IDs could prove more stable for pages that may be split, merged or renamed. Pengo (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
    1. Interesting. That's probably true. --Jane023 (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support --CennoxX (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:21, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support --H4stings (talk) 14:14, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support --Tgr (talk) 21:32, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Buscar automáticamente elementos similares en Wikidata[edit]

En Wikipedias pequeñas, donde nuestros equipos de trabajo son reducidos, tenemos muchas páginas (principalmente subplantillas y categorías) que no están enlazadas a items en Wikidata. Algunos de estos items (por ejemplo subplantillas de taxonomía automática) pueden encontrarse en diferentes idiomas pero es un trabajo muy duro enlazarlas manualmente. Como la mayoría sigue la misma estructura, y muchos tienen incluso el mismo nombre, quizás un bot pudiera sugerir enlaces. -Theklan (talk) 22:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Votes[edit]

  1. Support Support--Martinligabue (talk) 15:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support - Rupert Clayton (talk) 17:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support StevenJ81 (talk) 22:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support --Oriciu (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support SupportNickK (talk) 15:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support SupportHam II (sgwrs / talk) 21:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:23, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support --Urbanecm (talk) 12:34, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support --Yeza (talk) 10:42, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Facilitar la creación de fichas que muestren información de Wikidata[edit]

Actualmente, no hay un sistema bien establecido a través de diferentes wikipedias que ayude a editores a construir fichas de información (no hay una Plantilla:Infobox establecida en las diferentes wikipedias).

Construir una ficha de información que despliegue la información de wikidata es aún más díficil: Construir una linda ficha de información que despliegue información desde wikidata requiere módulos escritos en Lua (sin lo cual, es imposible que los wikienlaces funcionen correctamente). Sería muy bueno tener un módulo estándar de Lua para este propósito, mantenido y almacenado en un lugar central (por ej. en meta), sin la necesidad de que cada wikipedia copie este módulo una y otra vez y que mantenga dicha copia.

Tanto editores y lectores se beneficiarían de una solución. Aún más, una solución potenciaría Wikidata, porque sería mucho más fácil usar la información presente en Wikidata en todas las wikipedias.

Solución propuesta: Implementar tanto A como B:

A. Diseñar una Plantilla:Infobox que sea fácil de usar y que sea mantenida en un lugar central.

B. (Quizás un poco más fácil que A.) Escribir un módulo en Lua que formatee el contenido de Wikidata apropiadamente (por ej. en Wikipedia un artículo sobre una ciudad, crea una lista formateada de ciudades hermanas (cf. d:Property:P190), donde cada elemento de la lista es un enlace al artículo sobre la ciudad hermana, o si esta wikipedia todavía no tiene un artículo sobre una ciudad hermana particular, un enlace al item de Wikidata sobre esta ciudad hermana). Poner este módulo en Lua en un lugar central donde todas las wikipedias puedan usarla directamente. --UV (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support So far as I know this is the most developed proof of concept - Poof it works. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:39, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support --Minihaa (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support proposal written by myself --UV (talk) 23:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support Alleycat80 (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support --Gbeckmann (talk) 09:07, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support And a crucial point is to be able to edit Wikidata content from the home wiki ----Candalua (talk) 09:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support -Theklan (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support --Arnd (talk) 14:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support--Xabier Cañas (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support Wittylama (talk) 15:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support Very important. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support --Continua Evoluzione (talk) 15:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support Snipre (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support - Rupert Clayton (talk) 17:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support Papuass (talk) 17:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support--46.225.68.244 17:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Support Support --Artem.komisarenko (talk) 19:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  21. Support Support -- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:03, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  22. Support Support --Nouill (talk) 21:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  23. Support Strongly support --Usien6 (talk) 21:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  24. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  25. Support Support We can gain a lot by maintaining data centrally and being able to link to it from all wikis. Not only in infoboxes, but also in regular text and templates. Especially (integer) numbers, like the number of wins a certain athlete or sports team has. In many smaller wikis these are not updated frequently at all. Also, the same numbers may appear in several different articles within the same wiki. Gap9551 (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  26. Support Support Helder 23:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  27. Support Support --Oriciu (talk) 01:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  28. Support Support Powermelon (talk) 07:09, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  29. Support Support Kvardek du (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  30. Support Support Bgwhite (talk) 09:38, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  31. Support Strongly support This would be a huge win. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  32. Support Support --β16 - (talk) 14:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  33. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  34. Support Support. Especially make it clear to a user that a value is coming from Wikidata and they can add or edit it there — NickK (talk) 16:02, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  35. Support Support – This is very badly needed on cy.wp. Ham II (sgwrs / talk) 18:04, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  36. Comment Comment This is already possible, e.g. see en:Template:Infobox telescope and en:South Pole Telescope via en:Module:Wikidata. Standardisation and making it easier to use (and particularly, making it easier to edit the information used by the template on Wikidata) would be good though. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  37. Support Support YBG (talk) 06:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  38. Support Support Rzuwig 11:12, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  39. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:24, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  40. Support Support - B is needed more than A but both would be useful Waggers (talk) 13:42, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  41. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:17, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  42. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  43. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:25, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  44. Support Support J36miles (talk) 00:48, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
  45. Support Support --Satdeep Gill (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  46. Support Support --Ochilov (talk) 15:16, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
  47. Oppose Oppose, let local communities decide not to use infoboxes for specific fields/articles, how to design them, what to include in them etc. → «« Man77 »» [de] 18:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
    1. Comment Comment this seems irrelevant: giving communities a feature allowing easy insertion and population of infoboxes from Wikidata does not make those communities do so. You are opposing what is not proposed. Ijon (talk) 09:57, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  48. Comment Comment Man77, I think we can provide the possibility of using centralized data, but nobody would be forced to refer to that data or use a certain layout. No freedom would be lost. Gap9551 (talk) 23:31, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
  49. Support Support --ESM (talk) 16:39, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  50. Support Support -- super useful, and currently a bit arcane for most Wikipedians.
  51. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  52. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Modificar el visor multimedia para incluir información de Wikidata[edit]

Desde el artículo de Wikipedia en:St. Matthew and the Angel hago click en la imagen de la pintura y en el Visor de Medios veo un botón llamado "más detalles" que me lleva a Commons. Ahí debería también haber un botón en este caso para el elemento asociado de Wikidata, ya que tanto el artículo como la imagen se refieren al elemento pintura Q9396869. El elemento tiene otra información más allá que el archivo en Commons o el artículo Wikipedia.

Cuando el Visor de Medios está habilitado, si un usuario de Wikipedia hace click en un archivo de imagen, la información mostrada es resumida desde Commons. Aunque no todas las imágenes de Commons tienen elementos de Wikidata y probablemente esto nunca ocurra, muchas imágenes de arte como pinturas y esculturas tienen elementos muy detallados de Wikidata que pueden ser ofrecidos al usuario en idioma nativo. Para imágenes que están enlazadas a elementos de Wikidata, el usuario debería ver un botón "Metadata" con el logo de Wikidata además del botón "Más detalles" con el logo Commons. Si esto está habilitado, también debería ser más fácil agregar un número de elemento a todas las imágenes de Commons en una categoría (por ej las obras de arte tienen imágenes detalladas, etc) para que cualquier archivo que sea visto en Wikipedia, el Visor de Medios sea capaz de mirar el elemento correcto de Wikidata para esa imagen aunque no sea la "imagen principal" en Wikidata para ese elemento. --Jane023 (talk) 12:51, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support Goldzahn (talk) 12:47, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support--Kippelboy (talk) 05:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Alleycat80 (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support --Gbeckmann (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support--KRLS (talk) 15:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:24, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support --Yeza (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support Ijon (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support aegis maelstrom δ 11:14, 14 December 2015 (UTC) Since we have these items and info, we should present it.

Visibilidad para los problemas de calidad[edit]

En Wikidata varios reportes se han hecho sobre temas de calidad de Wikipedia. Estos pueden ser desde datos probablemente incorrectos en Wikidata, datos faltantes o reportes sobre la muerte de personas. Este tipo de listas no consiguen atención y por lo tanto la gente en Wikidata indica que no están dispuestos a considerar la calidad de ninguna Wikipedia. Wikipedia se considera una caja negra y que no está interesada en su propia calidad.

Con la visibilidad apropiada de esos reportes podemos tener más cooperación. Va a mejorar la calidad en todos y cada uno de nuestros proyectos. Necesitamos tres cosas:

  • una plataforma en cada wiki enlazada Wikidata para estos temas
  • un mecanismo para actualizar regularmente la lista
  • un flujo de trabajo para cada tema

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by GerardM (talk) 20 November 2015

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support- GerardM (talk) 05:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support It would be useful if a notification and link of some kind is created on the talk page of any Wikipedia article where there are quality issues detected on Wikidata, so the editors of the Wikipedia article can be informed as directly as reasonably possible. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Fichas completas desde Wikidata[edit]

La mayor parte de los datos están incrustados en las fichas de información de los artículos, siendo que toda la información debería ser guardada y leída desde Wikidata. El enfoque debería ser (en cualquier orden):

  • escribir un módulo completo en LUA que sea capaz de recoger cualquier tipo de información (no solo las fáciles con un solo valor)
  • esa información debería ser formateada de acuerdo a los estándares específicos del wikiproyecto
  • toda la información actualmente almacenada en cada proyecto debería ser movida desde cada proyecto (borrada) y almacenada en Wikidata
  • la información en wikidata debería seguir un estándar de orden para simplificar la recolección de datos y su formateo

Esto permitiría evitar la discrepancia de datos entre proyectos hermanos y entre versiones de idiomas del mismo proyecto.

Una cosa interesante para tener es un pop-up que permita cambiar/actualizar cualquier dato de una ficha de información en Wikidata, sin dejar el proyecto actual. --Andyrom75 (talk) 00:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support -Theklan (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support if there is a way to ensure that the data is adequately cited. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support -- FriedhelmW (talk) 17:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support --Andyrom75 (talk) 18:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support - --LINO CORRADI (talk) 20:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support --Lkcl it (talk) 21:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support it would be a great save of time, allowing users to focus on the body of articles. Nice proposal Andyrom! --Nastoshka (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support Gap9551 (talk) 22:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support Helder 23:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Oppose Oppose This is a huge project even for a single domain. For example, animal taxoboxes juggle a huge number of data fields (e.g. taxonomy, conservation statuses, fossil periods, maps, selection of synonyms, partial view of lower and higher taxons, citation and notes fields), which are displayed in different ways, and different wiki projects favour different, conflicting authorities for their taxonomy trees (not to mention conflicting or outdated models just on English Wikipedia). Ironing out inconsistencies as well as getting conflicting-but-valid models to live harmoniously in Wikidata and then creating Lua templates to replace the taxobox is all a huge task, and that's just for one domain. Other infoboxes will be simpler, but there will still be many challenges in fitting the infobox data into a clean and appropriate Wikidata format and merging it with the redundant, conflicting, sourceless (or source-unknown) data found across Wikipedias. Automation can only take you so far. So while I support the goal of getting more data into Wikidata, this is more realistically a distant goal than a single project. —Pengo (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Comment Comment As I said before: "This is already largely possible: see an example implementation of it at en:South Pole Telescope, through en:Template:Infobox telescope and en:Module:Wikidata. It's still in alpha/beta, though. The main difficulty is finding out which wikidata items need to be added to entries to populate the infobox." Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support the prepbio tool on Toollabs populated the bio infobox, but it would be nice to have this not just once, but on each page load. --Jane023 (talk) 17:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support --Ochilov (talk) 15:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Integrar Wikidata con el Wikcionario[edit]

Integrar Wikidata con el Wikcionario para usar interwikis (fase 1) tan pronto como sea posible en los espacios de nombres diferentes al principal. JAn Dudík (talk) 07:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Oppose Oppose. Not a Community Tech project. Wikidata has its own developers, and they said in the discussion above that they will implement this next year. MER-C (talk) 09:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Pro. --MGChecker (talk)
  3. Support Pro, we really need this as soon as possible. --Impériale (talk) 00:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Oppose Oppose as MER-C: Wikibase development is best handled by WMDE. --Ricordisamoa 06:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Pro. I do not know if this is the place to push this idea, but this will be a giant step forward for wiktionary when this feature will be implemented. So many data redundancies and inconsistencies would be avoided in this project. --Gloumouth1 (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support The sooner the better. JackPotte (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Oppose Oppose as MER-C; out of scope, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support as soon as possible. --Lyokoï88 (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support Pamputt (talk) 17:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support There is no reason for waiting. Interwiki should be easily to integrate. --Yoursmile (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:25, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support --Urbanecm (talk) 12:35, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support--Satdeep Gill (talk) 15:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support --HakanIST (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Support Support wikidata change the whole wiktionary for good--Esceptic0 (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2015 (UTC)