2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Bots and gadgets/Convert AWB into a special page

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
Jump to: navigation, search

⬅ Back to Bots and gadgets The survey has concluded. Here are the results!

  • Problem:
    • Malfunctions
    • No translations
    • Need to download program and install continuous updates
  • Which users are affected?
  • Who would benefit:
    • All program users (including administrators)
  • Proposed solution:
  • More comments:


  • @Magioladitis, Reedy, and Rjwilmsi: FYI this proposal. Please help improve the proposal if you can, or give other input on the difficulties that might be involved. Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
  • This sounds good, but I worry we don't have enough resources to complete this *rewrite*.--YFdyh000 (talk) 10:17, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • I am concerned that this is such a backwater discussion page that very few people who use the program even know of its existence. The voting should reflect the community. The handful of people who have logged in votes here are not representative of the AWB using community. Also, the proposal is so vague as to be almost incomprehensible. Who will be allowed to use it? And who will be making that determination? On Wikipedia, the Wikipedia community decided the restrictions. Will those restrictions still be honored, and how? The Transhumanist (talk) 00:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • I think en:WP:JWB already takes care of whatever this proposal is supposed to be. Headbomb (talk) 04:03, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
  • It sounds like not everyone will have access to it. It also sounds like it will be starting over, with fewer features. If it will have the same access restrictions as we currently have (anyone with 500 main namespace edits can use it), and will start out with all the same features as the current version of AWB, I would support. Otherwise, it will be a major step backwards. The Transhumanist (talk) 23:27, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Question Question: I'm unclear on the permissions here... Right now anyone can use AWB. Would that change? --Zackmann08 (talk) 02:25, 2 December 2017 (UTC)


  • Oppose Oppose Sounds bad, it's better to make it as a Portable application than either download-install or on-wiki application. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:52, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Thomas Obermair 4 (talk) 21:38, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Xaris333 (talk) 19:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Luan (discussão) 20:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support I like this idea, would make page maintenance easier. Reception123 (talk) 19:30, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Syced (talk) 15:41, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Superchilum(talk to me!) 16:18, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Honischboy (talk) 21:31, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • I do not understand the proposal as written (perhaps someone with native English-language skills could clarify the description for us), but it sounds like the proposal is to convert AWB from a downloadable program (for Windows only) to a web-based interface of some sort. If that is the case, I Support Support the proposal. As a Mac OS user, I have been unable to use AWB, which would enhance my gnome editing significantly. Jonesey95 (talk) 23:37, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • GA candidate.svg Weak support I like the idea but I think this proposal needs to be better explained. --Zackmann08 (talk) 19:57, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support in theory, subject to being able to restrict access to those with a user right. This proposal really needs more detail before anyone can make an informed decision, though. ~ Rob13Talk 03:15, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose What? This proposal is hard to understand. Are you trying to turn the AWB program in to a webpage? Do you plan on it running server side? What about people that use it on non-WMF wikis? Is this a "FORK AWB" proposal? — xaosflux Talk 04:44, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
    Also, who will maintain this? (WMF? Volunteers?) — xaosflux Talk 04:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per Liuxinyu and Xaosflux. --Terra  (talk) 06:53, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose as unclear. I'm concerned that the "database scanner" may disappear; I use it with regexes that are far too complex for the MediaWiki search box. I'm concerned that I may lose the ability to configure find+replace rules in a text file; my rules are up to 2.5 megabytes and are sometimes edited with Notepad. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:04, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose is the proposal trying to make AWB an online tool like twinkle? Simply put: I dont think it would work reliably. Also per TerraCodes, and John of Reading. —usernamekiran(talk) 11:39, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose, improve the existing tool instead. Currently it’s absolutely possible to internationalize and localize C# programs, and even to run them on *nix systems like macOS and Debian GNU/Linux. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:27, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - If this is proposing to change AWB into a page then I can't see how it's going to work and as Xaosflux says who's going to run it and keep tabs on it ?, If I have read this right then I don't the point in changing it all at all ..... if I've read it wrong and it's Twinkle or something else related then you've lost me ..... –Davey2010Talk 15:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - the proposal is too vague. Having fun! Cheers! Checkingfax (talk) 20:27, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support AWB is hard to get started on, and making the onramps a little nicer would help. NessieVL (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose For all of its esoteric and arcane controls and processes and its supposed faults and steep learning curve, AWB is valuable tool. The proposal appears to be based on the assumption that turning it into a special page will somehow remove its problems. There's no reason to suppose that such a translation would deliver the expected benefits. More probably, it would result in a neutered tool with a reduced feature-set.--DavidCane (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
  • GA candidate.svg Weak support as this is egalitarian, but the proposal is vague. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:33, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per John of Reading and Xaosflux Ronhjones (talk) 16:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support This sounds like a wonderful idea! It's always good to see software go cross-platform! RandomDSdevel (talk) 01:07, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Per xaosflux SQLQuery me! 04:41, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Haxpett (talk) 23:42, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose Oppose - AWB give us Modulity. We can add plugin and and can make module according to our requrement. But Wikimedia will allow anyone to upload .dll file into their Server (For Secuirt Resons). And This will destory AWB wide uses. Hence I am oppsing this. And Other thing which is "Same Faciltiy is given by JWB. But you can see major Diff between Both". Thanks-Jayprakash >>> Talk 06:27, 17 December 2017 (UTC)