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Tetizeraz's question: Where can I find information about "the landscape of the Wikimedia movement and its structures"?[edit]

Hi! I was reading Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2018-20/Working Groups and one of the requirements was "A good understanding of the landscape of the Wikimedia movement and its structures" and I'll be honest, I have no idea where to start reading about it. I know there's Wikimania, the various projects like Commons, Wikipedia, Wikidata, etc. I know there are mailing lists, although I'm not sure how active people are in those mailing lists. Sprinkle some drama (I'm not sure if knowing a little bit about discussions and "fights" is important) I just get lost in a sea of information. Could someone help me know where to start reading about it, and understand more the WMF, the Wikimedia Foundation, and the people involved? Thanks! Tetizeraz (talk) 02:19, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@Tetizeraz:, thanks for this interesting question.
Since the Movement Strategy Process focuses on the structures, it should be said that the knowledge you seek is about structures: WMF, affiliates, committees and other bodies. This is the third bullet point explained on the page Wikimedia movement.
The first page that comes to my mind is Wikimedia movement affiliates. This is the first step with basic information. In my (totally personal) opinion, in order to have a "good understanding of the landscape", one should be aware of capacity and budgeting, so I'd recommend reading about Simple Annual Plan Grants (sAPG) program and APG through the Funds Dissemination Committee process. Particularly plans and reports of individual organizations, both newest and older ones. Plus, documentation on collaborations between affiliates. Research papers, e.g. on databases like JSTOR, might be eye-opening.
But this is the obvious, publicly expressed, fairly easily accessible level, and a fraction of total. Observations and conclusions from various comparisons are less obvious, because they haven't been necessarily put into words. There's a huge amount of research that could be potentially done. There is confidential information accessible for some employees, board members or other functionaries. How to learn more, beyond documentation? I'd say: get involved in the governance level of an affiliate and talk with people who have been involved. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Bylaws, Section IV.7[edit]

Hi, I have question concerning the text of the Bylaws, Section IV.7, "Any Trustee may be removed, with or without cause, by a majority vote of the Trustees then in office in accordance with the procedures set forth in Section 617.0808(1), or other relevant provisions of the Act." What is this Section 617.0808 referred to and where can I find it ? As far as I can see its not specified in the text. Claude J (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Claude J: Hi. It looks like "the Act" is defined further up in the page at foundation:Bylaws#Section_3._Selection. (first paragraph) - searching the web for that specific Act name and section number, gives this page as a likely result (although there may be better results, I am not a lawyer). Hope that helps, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, thats it, thank you.--Claude J (talk) 05:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Job descriptions of WMF Staff[edit]

I've been trying to document certain aspects of the WMF here on Meta, and I've been having some difficulty as a result of the lack of data on the jobs and responsibilities of the various WMF employees. It would be quite helpful if the WMF could provide the list of job descriptions of all current WMF staff. Would this be possible? Yair rand (talk) 06:14, 20 August 2019 (UTC)


Can you set a specific entry page per user[edit]

We are looking to have different login pages for different users, e.g. the business team logs in at 'Business' and the engineers at 'Engineering'. Is this possible? Justinmreina (talk) 05:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

@Justinmreina: Hi. This page is focused on the Wikimedia sites. For help with questions related to the MediaWiki software, please ask at the related project, mw:Project:Support desk. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Ask for a approval for a Oauth app[edit]


Dear friends / admin, (and previously approved admins: @Tgr (WMF):, @BDavis (WMF):)

Can you help approve these OAuth apps:

and remove/delete/reject these Oauth apps:

If this is not the best place to notify admins, can you route me to the right one?


Xinbenlv (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Xinbenlv! The canonical place to post requests is Steward_requests/Miscellaneous#OAuth_permissions. For simple requests anything works (and I get notified about new apps automatically), but since these involve editing protected pages it's probably good if stewards see them.

I'll reject them for now though because you swapped the names accidentally (and somewhat embarrassingly we don't support changing any details of proposed apps, so the only way to fix that is by proposing a new version). --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:21, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

...or maybe I'm just confused by the naming scheme. Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/b0885495f14a700cf6051fe5bb236c4d says "on Heroku" but has a wmflabs.org callback URL; Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/c122a589c582777abedab6d24ad9b6ee says "on WMF Cloud VPS" but has a wikiloops.org callback URL. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
@Tgr (WMF):, yeah, I agree it's quite confusing. Ideally we shall have only 2 apps: 1 for development, and 1 for production. However, the Oauth extension currently only supports one callback URL per app, and in the meantime, this extension does not support editing callback URL or change a few other fields, we end up creating many new OAuth apps. If the OAuth extension supports updating these fields, we can re-use existing onces. For now, could you approve these two, as requested above:
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/c122a589c582777abedab6d24ad9b6ee
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/3d5ba5ee78059231f7c61dd000c5c26b
Xinbenlv (talk) 23:48, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
@Xinbenlv: What I mean is, the first of those says "on WMF Cloud VPS", but it does not actually seem to be on Cloud VPS.
Out of curiosity, how do you think supporting multiple callback URLs should work? (Making changes to apps is something I hope to fix once I find the free time.) --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 00:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)


@Tgr (WMF): I realize you are also a team member working on the OAuth extension, that's great. I filed a few feature requests regarding the Callback URL support
* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241867
Regarding, it gives you the impression that they are not on Cloud VPS, it actually is. Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240414 we are approved to use a public IP so that we can map our application with our domain at `*.wikiloop.org`. The battlefield2.wikiloop.org is an instance that is hosted on Cloud VPS. Again thank you for updating the OAuth @Tgr (WMF):
Xinbenlv (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Done, I think. Thanks for explaining, and for filing the tasks! OAuth is a volunteer project (sadly, no one is officially working on it) but hopefully we'll be able to chip away at some of them at least. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 02:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)