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  1. I support any variation of this banner being used in any of the ways proposed here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. When a fellow Wikipedian is persecuted to such an extreme extent for promoting free access to information, it is our duty to speak up as a movement.--Pharos (talk) 21:13, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Pete Forsyth I support any of the variants presented.
  4. Hubertl
  5. Mattl
  6. We have done banners (SOPA) for causes we belive in and are benificial for us in the past. Now one of or own needs our help. Let's do just that. Josve05a (talk) 22:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Absolutely and unequivocally. Please note that by calling on the Syrian government to release Bassel, we do not take any political action. We do not take sides in the Syrian civil war, nor do we pass judgement on the Syrian authorities, the rebel forces, or anyone else taking part in the war in Syria. The wording of the banner and the landing page are clear and precise — our goal is to seek Bassel's release from prison, and that's it. We're not losing our neutrality for standing up for what believe in — as we have done in the past — or for standing up in defence of our volunteers — again, as we have done in the past. odder (talk) 22:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Strong Support Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is a community. I just hope Bassel is alright. We have to try every possible way. I support this campaign.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 22:28, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support! --Metsavend (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. I understand why people do not want to do political things... but if there was ever a time to speak out about something, its to protect one of our own. I support this, provided the banner is apolitical as possible (given the context). Bawolff (talk) 22:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Yes! — Jeblad 22:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support. Balko (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support. Pretty much what odder said above. - Jmabel (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support. So one of us has been sentenced to death for an engagement we all share? Well then, let's stand up for our friend! Gyrostat (talk) 23:09, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support - David Gerard (talk) 23:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support The dissemination of information and Free and Open Software are essential not just to Wikimedia itself but all the values it stands for beyond our community. We need to show that the way Bassel is being treated does not go unnoticed. If we speak up clearly in a highly visible medium like ours, we do not just support him, but many others who risk their lives and freedom for the sake of our common values. (And to those who say Wikimedia should not be politized: Our movement has always been political: It opposes the tyranny of the mind.) Asav (talk) 00:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support Mike Peel (talk) 00:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Support -- While we should remain free of politics in most issues, the exception is those issues which directly affect our various projects. This is not unprecedented. Please see this article about protests against SOPA and PIPA. Etamni (talk) 00:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Support, especially per odder. Tuvalkin (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Support. KurtR (talk) 02:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Support Editing Wikipedia and working in the open source movement comes with risks. Being for open is not a NPOV violation. We need to support each other. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Support 99.224.153.28 03:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Per Bawolff. wctaiwan (talk) 03:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Support Although I have to point out the slight chance that they will kill him because of this since it will be a even bigger statement then.--Saehrimnir (talk) 03:24, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  25. Support But, I think that banner should NOT seek for "immediate and unconditional release", a matter concerning law and justice (if not politics), i.e far from Wikipedia's fields and goals. Banner should urge for "immediate information on Bassel's current condition and future", i.e KNOWLEDGE: this is what Wikipedia is all about. Thank you. --Στέλιος Πετρουλάκης (talk) 03:35, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Support. Haxpett (talk) 03:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  27. I support.Vidyu44 (talk) 04:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Support.Commons sibi (talk) 04:37, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Support--Info-farmer (talk) 06:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Support. Stephen G. Brown (talk) 06:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  31. Support --Muzammil (talk) 07:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Support --Pristurus (talk) 07:53, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  33. Support the content of articles should reflect neutrality. The project was, is and never will be neutral. Education and empowerment can't be "neutral". This guy will be beheaded. One reason: editing Wikipedia. --Sargoth (talk) 08:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Sargoth, are you sure that he is jailed because of his Wikipedia editing activity? Where and how did you get this information? — Yerpo Eh? 12:22, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Yerpo, it's not about edits. It might not be the main reason in this case. Compare with this guy. Open society, open culture, free education, self-empowerment, critical points of view - they belong together. --Sargoth (talk) 17:28, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sorry, but you said like it was. There's a lot of guys like Bassel and Diderot, which is exactly why I think Wikipedia is not a good venue to politicize each individual's issue. — Yerpo Eh? 07:20, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  34. Support --Xavi Dengra (MESSAGES) 08:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  35. Support --Jfblanc (talk) 08:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  36. Support --Dick Bos (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  37. Support --Davidpar (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  38. Support. Danapit (talk) 08:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  39. Support.--Nahum (talk) 09:03, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  40. Support as he is a wikimedian. Mathis B (talk) 09:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  41. Support. Schreibvieh (talk) 09:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  42. Support. שי אבידן (talk) 10:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  43. Support. Since we're not talking about any arbitrary "political cause", but about life and death of a fellow Wikipedian. This should be a big exception. --j.budissin 10:44, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  44. Support: A fellow wikipedian was sentenced to death for his work for free knowledge - for me it's reason enough to give a statement as a community -- Achim Raschka (talk) 11:27, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  45. Support. To be able to build a freely available encyclopedia, it is essential for everyone to be able to edit it freely (and not to be threatened for it, especially not to be threatened with death), to have and create freely available software and to have free/non restricted access to it – everywhere. --Anika (talk) 11:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  46. Support. For causes we belive in and are benificial for our Humanity, I support. Since we're not talking about any arbitrary "political cause", but about life and death of a Human-being and a fellow Wikipedian. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 11:30, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  47. Support Luha (talk)
  48. SupportFilceolaire (talk) 11:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  49. Support --Touzrimounir (talk) 12:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  50. Support --Yeza (talk) 13:26, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  51. Support. Since it's not possible to remain apolitical when one is in danger of a death penalty for being apolitical. Yury Bulka (talk) 13:38, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  52. Support. I know Wikipedia stands for knowledge, but that doesn't mean it can't stand for justice as well. Alensha (talk) 13:42, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  53. Support. --Максим Підліснюк (talk) 13:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  54. Support. 3s (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  55. Support. smial (talk) 14:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC) As for j.budissin.[reply]
  56. Support. Let's not fool ourselves. Wikipedia is by its very nature a political act on behalf of the freedom of information that threatens totalitarian regimes. Gamaliel (talk) 16:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  57. Support.--Piramidion 16:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  58. Support. Blue Elf (talk) 16:59, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  59. Support.--Glikol (talk) 17:50, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  60. Support. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 20:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  61. Support Support There's no politic but the life of someone of us is in risk. --ProtoplasmaKid (WM-MX) (talk) 22:15, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  62. Support Support Aubrey (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  63. Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  64. Support Support Fernando2812l (talk) 23:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  65. Support Support if not us, who? Pundit (talk) 23:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  66. Support Support the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users of Wikimedia projects, we did this with User:Diu in Greece. This is much more than a lawsuit. --CristianCantoro (talk)
  67. Support. Papapep (talk) 00:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  68. Support Support A requirement for free knowledge is free speech. Salvador (talk) 01:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  69. Support. --Nironen (talk) 01:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  70. Support Support Honest minds must be free; we are here because of them, and today we are here for them. At any extent. --g (talk) 01:42, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  71. Support Support They touch one of us, they touch all of us. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 02:39, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  72. Support He is contributing to Wikimedia organization, so it is in our interest, as wikimedians, to ask for his release. Also, as humans, we have to ask to leave him alive and safe. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 03:27, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  73. Support. Dionysus (talk) 03:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  74. Support Aude (talk) 03:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  75. Support. -- Htm (talk) 04:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  76. Support. Information cannot be truly free if our minds and bodies are enslaved. Viriditas (talk) 05:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  77. Support - A strict commitment to the spirit and principle of NPOV would dictate Wikipedia should not play the role of advocate, so in that regard I'm sympathetic to the "oppose" position. However, while NPOV is a core content policy, Wikipedia's identity is as both an encyclopedia (with content) and a community (with people). The only reason Wikipedia should ever play the role of advocate is to protect one or the other. That's not an open-ended commitment of support to any Wikipedian who happens to get in some trouble for this or that reason, but an acknowledgment that actions which threaten the ability of a people to edit Wikipedia without fear is a threat to Wikipedia and its mission. Therefore, support. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 05:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  78. Support. Please, let the world know that we care for our community and not only for the money needed to run Wikipedia. .mau. ✉ 06:03, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
  79. Support. Imagine a world where every people has the right to freely express their mind... --Xaura (talk) 06:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  80. Support freedom, especially freedom of speech --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  81. Support. Death sentence is a point of non-return. While I do understand NPOV arguments, we cannot be neutral about a Wikimedian in good standing being sentenced to death and we should react — NickK (talk) 07:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  82. Support--Fcarbonara (talk) 08:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  83. Support Support --Sd (talk) 08:17, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  84. Support--Tiputini (talk) 08:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  85. Support. Andrei Stroe (talk) 09:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  86. Support. Ermanon (talk) 09:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  87. Support Support--Bramfab (talk) 09:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  88. Support Support--Etrusko25 (talk) 10:04, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  89. Support. Davide Denti (OBC) (talk) 10:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  90. Support. Moroboshi (talk) 10:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  91. Support --Nicor (talk) 11:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  92. Support --Cortesi (talk) 11:18, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  93. Support Support DavidIvar (talk) 11:33, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  94. Support --Stefan64 (talk) 11:36, 27 November 2015 (UTC) It's a matter of life and death, therefore more important than a banner to feed staff in San Francisco[reply]
  95. Unterstützung --Schlesinger (talk) 11:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  96. Support --Varina (talk) 12:01, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  97. Support --Unapersona (talk) 13:23, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  98. Support --Einsamer Schütze (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2015 (UTC) conc[reply]
  99. Support Support MZMcBride's concerns are fair and I think it a hard choice. We'd be going to open a floodgate. But a death sentence w/o nothing but being a free knowledge activist is within a limit we fairly chime in I believe. As concerning to keep apoliticality of the project, Wikimedia project aims to provide free knowledge from NPOV and this cause itself is far from apolitical: supporting free knowledge itself is a political and pragmatic action, nor pure theoretical, nor aesthetic. --Aphaia (talk) 13:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  100. Support Support --Rogi (talk) 14:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  101. Support Support --concerns of politicization are fair, but it's been a while since SOPA, so this is a rare act; we need to periodically make statements of principle, so that wikimedians understand that we are not a potted plant: it's time to step up and earn that Erasmus prize. also concur with Fuzheado's idea to develop criteria for possible advocacy, to ensure rareness of action. Slowking4 (talk) 15:16, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  102. --SMAUG (Talk – My contributions – E-mail) 15:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  103. Support Support --gobonobo + c 15:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  104. Support. I'm close to #76. --Aalfons (talk) 16:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  105. Support Support--IlCapo (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  106. Support. MGChecker (talk) 16:23, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  107. Support Support --Holder (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  108. Support Support --Protnet (talk) 17:01, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  109. Support Support This is a rare case, a combination of a community member of CC and Wikipedia being targeted for sharing free knowledge, and now in great danger. 2607:FB90:268:6373:DC6C:3552:DCBA:A6C7 17:09, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  110. Strong support Strong support -- Tulsi Bhagat (Talk) 17:27, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  111. Support. SarahSV talk 17:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  112. Support. Demostene119 (talk) 17:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  113. Support.--Ezzex (talk) 18:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  114. Support. Kette~cawiki (talk) 18:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  115. Support. Samer.hc (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  116. Support Support --Grind24 (talk) 18:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  117. Support Support - Susanna Giaccai (talk) 19.57, 27 November 20145 (UTC)
  118. Support: Yes, of course. Please. Fylbecatulous talk 19:04, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  119. Ryan Merkley While Wikipedia's content must be fair/neutral, the act of sharing free culture and knowledge is not neutral. Bassel is part of the Wikipedia and CC communities, and I hope we can raise awareness to avoid his execution. I support the action.
  120. Support. Clapsclaps (talk) 20:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  121. Support Support --Yukh68 (talk) 20:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  122. Support Support -- Smalltowngrill I support any of the variants presented.
  123. Support. As a Syrian software developer myself, I'm devastated about Bassel's predicament. Thank you all for caring and working for his cause. I believe timeliness is of utmost importance with this issue as we do not know when he will be executed. - ssoueid (talk) 20:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  124. Support. Unacceptable actions taking place in Syria right now — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kushalcu (talk) odder (talk) 21:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  125. Support Support --Yiyi (talk) 20:41, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  126. Support Support ! janeatcc
  127. Support. Minihaa (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  128. Support --Yann (talk) 21:11, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  129. Support. Marimoreshead (talk) 22:38, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  130. Support. Lystopad (talk) 23:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  131. Support. On the "oppose" side of this poll I read many people saying that they do not support this proposal because Wikipedia should not interfere into politics. I am afraid but I cannot consider the injustice and cruelty that one of our colleagues is facing to be simply "politics". Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 23:42, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  132. Support. The mere existence of these projects is not politically neutral, and any argument for neutrality on the issues that are core to our mission is seeking something that is not there. Our non-neutrality in this is something easy to forget in some areas of the world and painfully apparent in other, no more so than here. We exist in part because the idea that everyone should have access to the world's knowledge is controversial. When one of our own community members faces death in part *because* of what he has done here, we should use the power that we have to bring it to the world's attention and prevent the sort of injustice we exist to fight. Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 23:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  133. Support. Alice Wiegand (talk) 00:21, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  134. Support. Allan Aguilar (talk) 03:00, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  135. Support LorTalk 03:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  136. Support. Christopher Lee Adams (talk) 03:14, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  137. Support. Twomcvms (talk) 04:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  138. Support. Anything that may help should be done. Nevertheless, don't expect much enthusiasm from french Wikipedia (as usual !). --Warp3 (talk 04:58, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  139. Support. Ot (talk) 05:42, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  140. Support. Others have said it better than I can. Greg G (talk) 05:50, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  141. Support. --Stefan Bellini (talk) 06:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  142. Strong Support Bzg (talk) 07:18, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  143. Support. Uomovariabile (talk) 08:18, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  144. Support as long as it is coordinated with some organization that has experience in these things (e.g. Amnesty International) and they consider it a good idea. We have a responsibility to protect our own; just make sure to pick an action that makes Bassel's situation better and not worse. Tgr (talk) 08:22, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  145. Support. — T. 08:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  146. Support. --Oop (talk) 08:39, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  147. Support Support--Pouyana (talk) 09:47, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  148. Support. --Remulazz (talk) 10:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  149. Support Dryopterisery (talk) 10:22, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  150. Support SilkeM (talk) 10:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  151. Support He is one of us. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  152. Support. We seek neutrality in the content of our articles, but the Wikimedia project is not neutral. The Wiki project advocates for free & open information. Using Wiki in this way is in line with the Wikimedia mission & governing philosophy. Okinawa55 (talk) 17:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  153. Support --Isacdaavid (talk) 15:22, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  154. Support. This is time when as a group we can stand up for the values of the Wikimedia Movement is a way that will make a difference in the life of one person plus many more who will have the courage to continue doing work for the free culture movement. Sydney Poore/FloNight (talk) 17:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  155. Support. Nikikana (talk) 17:38, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  156. Support, --Jocian (talk) 18:00, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  157. --Harald Krichel (talk) 19:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  158. Support Support -- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 19:40, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Votes cast after the deadline follow below.

  1. Support Support --Gripweed (talk) 21:16, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. there's no better cause! Marcus Cyron (talk) 23:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support We wouldn't normally do this, but the death penalty is a big deal. Montanabw (talk) 06:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support --Epìdosis 13:32, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support--Formica rufa (talk) 19:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 00:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support. --Bookvaedina (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support. --Neitram (talk) 13:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Kaldari (talk) 20:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 23:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. --Superbass (talk) 16:04, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 18:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Support for the December 10 w:Human Rights Day, which according to discussion on Talk:Free Bassel is the focus of other activities. Preferably the banner would run for a two-day period encompassing this date in all time zones. I think 63% was a reasonably strong level of support, and support would be even higher for a briefer, well-targeted event. Wnt (talk) 23:53, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support Support as an Wikipedian. Mykola Swarnyk (talk) 03:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support This was only open for 3 days? Where is the further information about this user contributions that was requested? And the purpose of this was to influence the government in Arabic-speaking country, but it was proposed in English, for the English Wikipedia? Where is the Arabic translation? —Neotarf (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe the short timeframe was due to a desire to run the banner in early December. I am not sure if any Arabic speakers have been involved, or who they are. It is entirely possible to take this proposal and use it as a basis for a new one, and if you feel strongly about it Neotarf, I would strongly encourage you to do so. IMO, one important lesson is that the banner and page should focus on sharing information, rather than explicitly endorsing specific actions; I believe if it were edited with that in line, a number of the people who opposed might support. -Pete F (talk) 23:50, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the response, Pete F, but as I's sure you're aware, I'm hardly in a position to do anything right now. This seems like Jimbo's kind of thing. Is he aware of it? Such people deserve all the support possible. Neotarf (talk) 03:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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