Celtic Knot Conference 2020/Submissions/Non-dominant language Wikipedias: Lessons from the "Russian Knot"/Discussions

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  • Farhad Fatkullin
    • The presentation is from the Wikimedia Languages of Russia Community.
    • For the sake of time, they are not covering the larger languages of Azerbaijani, Finnish, Kazakh, Russian and Ukrainian. They are also skipping Wikidata, as there are many Wikidatitians giving talks elsewhere in the conference schedule.
    • They are sharing cases that prove that the Wikimedia movement is a “Noah's Ark” for languages, related ethno-cultural identities and respective communities. It gives all languages in the universe a chance to be used as an interface for various navigation systems and local government services. It demonstrates that the cultural heritage accumulated by the ancestors of specific peoples is our common treasure and has a practical value for all humans present and future — and showing that collaboration is more effective than trying to go it alone.
  • Oleg Abarnikov
    • There are many WIkipedia instances in languages of the Russian Federation; the slide at 2 min 25 sec has a table, highlighted according to the language family.
    • As at 29 May 2020, there are 30 Wikipedia editions, are represented across 5 language families.
    • There are a further 37 projects in the Wikimedia Incubator, not including languages that don't have at least 1 normal stub; 3 of these (Karelian / karjal, krl; Khakhas / Хакас тілі, kjh; Nogai / Ногай тили, nog) have over 1000 articles, but cannot be approved by the Languages Committee due to insufficient number of active (especially native) editors.
    • If you look at a list of the ethnic composition of each of the regions fo the North Caucausus [slide at 3 min 30], despite the great linguistic diversity you'll see not all ethnic groups have a Wikipedia instance in their language — some don't even have an Incubator instance, such as the Abazins (Абаза) in Karachay-Cherkessia, despite 32,300 inhabitants
    • After the complete removal of administrator's access in early 2013, the Chechen Wikipedia began to grow rapidly; it is currently the 2nd largest Wikipedia in a language of Russia., with 273,000 articles — 170× more than at the start of 2013. The main hero of this growth is an editor Umar Takhirgeran, with a second editor Said Misarbiev taking part in the Wikipedia Conference in Moscow.
  • The Ossetian Wikipedia opened in Feb 2005 and the last 2 years have seen growth slow [check this?]. A Saint-Petersburg-based language teacher Vyachyeslav Ivanov can be regarded as the founder of the Ossetian Wikipedia
  • Oleg Abarnikov [this speaker] is an administrator of the Lezgi Wikipedia. It opened in March 2012 with under 500 articles and now exceeds 4,000. The founding member is Ilya Bukarov; first-placed by edits is Aslan Xasiyev.
  • Other North Caucasian editions are experiencing big problems with participants; since 2011 only 19 articles have been created in the Lak Wikipedia. Many other editions have very flat article-creation graphs.
  • Zaytuna will be able to tell us more about the Bashkir-language Wikipedia in more detail; in November 2015 the User Group Wikipedians of Bashkortostan was created. [Something about Wiki-Grannies]
  • In October 2010, 2 editions were created in the Mari languages. The creator of the Western Mari Wikipedia, Valery Alikov, died in 2016 and this was disastrous for the edition. The main activist of the Eastern Mari instance Andrey Chemushev has organised many forums and seminars.
  • Another related language has a much better situation; thanks to journalist Andrey Petrov, the Erzya Wikipedia had their own User Group created in 2017.
  • [Far Eastern Russia has only 4 editions; brief details from 7 mins]


[User:OwenBlacker paised at 8 min 11]


[Zaytuna Nigamatjanova to come]


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