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Wiki Loves Pride 2025

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Central Notice Settings
What is the campaign duration?
  • → June 1st to June 30th
Which projects will you be targeting?
  • ES Wiki, FR Wiki and EN Wiki
What languages will you be targeting?
  • Spanish, English and French
Do you wish to show banners to Logged In users, Anonymous Users or Both? Do you want to target users with a specific number of edits or average monthly?
  • Both. No specific number of edits.

What countries will your campaign target?

  • It's a global campaign

Banner/Campaign Diet:

  • To be determined by Central Notice admin

What is the purpose of the campaign? How will you measure the success of the campaign?

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Description - Wiki Loves Pride 2025 is a campaign on enwiki, eswiki and frwiki to expand and improve LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. It takes place throughout the entire month of June in celebration of the International LGBT Pride Day. This campaign is organized by Wikimedia LGBT, and the Spanish Wikiproject:LGBT.

Metrics - New editors, experienced editors, Wikipedia articles, Images uploaded at Commons and Wikidata items

What banner(s) will you use? What will be your landing page?

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Type of grant - None

Link to grant - None

Discussion

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Hi @Vic Sfriso, just a quick note that we are running several fundraising campaigns in June. All of them will run on English Wikipedia in Austria, Greece, Japan, Malaysia, Spain, Sweden, and South Africa as well as on Spanish Wikipedia in Spain. This means that during that time your banner would be shown after a non logged in reader has seen the maximum of impressions of the fundraising banner (normally about 10x) on English of Spanish Wikipedia in those countries. Let me know if you have any questions. Best, JBrungs (WMF) (talk) 05:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JBrungs, thanks for the information and your help. I have no questions so far. Vic Sfriso (talk) 17:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if this is the right place to discuss it, but any chance we can get the banner size reduced? It's massive compared to other banners we usually see. ARandomName123 (talk) 21:30, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeremyb fyi I agree that the banner size should be reduced. Johannnes89 (talk) 21:35, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is very large. Cremastra (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed; when I saw the banner (while I was creating a new article for this campaign, ironically) I was like yikes! Please reduce the size ASAP if possible. Funcrunch (talk) 21:43, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1 to that. Banner takes up 1/3 of my screen on PC. EF5 (talk) 21:46, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to disable campaign while we work on size, it now seems disabled without a corresponding log entry? I don't particularly trust the logs since phab:T393482.
I was starting with the banner from last year and then I think using the SVG bumped up size? I'm open to any thoughts about how to do this differently. cc Johannnes89 --Jeremyb (talk) 21:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(after it already showed as disabled then I changed type to Article writing. which I had already done before I thought?) --Jeremyb (talk) 21:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I'd recommend we replace it with actual text. While there is alt text, text in images is not optimal for screen readers. Would also fix the size issue. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 21:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
agreed, I advised against text in images long ago. originally we had even more text in image.
I have some other things to do offline for a couple hours. If anyone else wants to help tweak it to that would be welcome. Jeremyb (talk) 22:10, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeremyb: I'm going to remake it from one of the templates, and will wait to re-enable it until you've reviewed it. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 22:44, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeremyb/Jeremyb-phone: Are we good to re-enable? (campaign, banner) If so, please do so, or ping me and I can. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 19:04, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I enabled a couple mins ago with your campaign settings, apparently again without producing a log entry??!
someone made another version we may incorporate later but for now turning this on. Jeremyb (talk) 00:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The new version:
In styles I changed the background color to #fcfcfc, so now ".notice" looks like this:
.cnotice {
position: relative;
overflow: hidden;
background: #fcfcfc;
color: #202122;
border: 1px solid #a2a9b1;
border-radius: 2px;
margin-bottom: 1em;
cursor: pointer;
font-weight: 500;
}
I centered the images inside the divs, so now ".cnotice-logo-container img" looks like this:
.cnotice-logo-container img {
display: block;
max-width: 100%;
max-height: 100px;
width: auto;
height: auto;
margin: 0 auto;
box-sizing: border-box;
}
And the changes are all inside the div called "div class="cnotice"":
:::::::::<div class="cnotice" id="wiki_loves_pride_2025" dir="ltr"> ::::::::: <a class="cnotice-full-banner-click external text" ::::::::: href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event:Wiki_Loves_Pride/2025"> ::::::::: <div id="cnotice-main"> ::::::::: <div class="cnotice-logo-container"> ::::::::: <img src="File:Barba lgtb - Obra derivada 2025 - 01.png" alt=""> ::::::::: </div> ::::::::: <div class="cnotice-logo-container"> ::::::::: <img src="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_loves_pride_text_en.png" alt=""> ::::::::: </div> ::::::::: <div class="cnotice-logo-container"> ::::::::: <img src="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_loves_pride_date_en_2025.png" alt=""> ::::::::: </div> ::::::::: </div> ::::::::: </a> ::::::::: </div> :::::::::
This is the example code for enwiki, then you'd just need to change the href and the link to the images 2 and 3, with the corresponding languages (formatting here is difficult if I want to make it more readable, but if necessary I can do it too) 👁 Ceaseless Watcher 👁 (talk; they/them) 09:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ceaseless Watcher: Where's the full code? (did you make a banner?) Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 14:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermont we've talked about it and in the end, we're keeping the one you already worked on. Thank you for your patience and your help with all this!! 👁 Ceaseless Watcher 👁 (talk; they/them) 20:54, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Vic Sfriso: Noting that I've edited the banner to not show to anonymous users, to limit to 40% of traffic, and to run for two weeks. The previous banner settings would have shown this to hundreds of millions of non-editors over the course of the month. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 22:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Vermont, I think it makes sense to not show it 100% of the time, but I believe it is very important that the banner runs for the entire month as the event runs for all of June. And maybe the English wikipedia has a lot of traffic from signed in users, but this is not the case so much in the Spanish and French wikipedias, so could this part in particular be changed back? Thanks for your time.--Freddy eduardo (talk) 22:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. Please see the CN usage guidelines. Banner blindness is a serious (and unfortunately growing) problem, and every event organizer wants their event's banner to run as long as possible. Campaigns longer than two weeks are reserved for banners with "specific community consensus" to run for longer, which does not generally include editing events.
This banner can run for two weeks in total. If you want to spread out the two weeks, that could work, e.g., this week and the third week of the month. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 22:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vic Sfriso, to add to my comment above: Unfortunately we weren't able to use the three png files included as banners. CentralNotice banners are written in HTML and css. This is noted in the usage guidelines. While we could just plop the banner png in there, it's text would be unreadable to screen readers, its colors and fonts would not change with user preferences, text would not scale on screen size, and its dimensions would be fixed. If the elements of the pngs were available as separate images, like this one, then it would be possible to include them in the banner. However, we as CN admins are volunteers with very limited time. If you want a custom banner (with more than 1-2 images or specific image styling), you will need to provide the code. This is also noted in the usage guidelines. Best, Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 23:13, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One question: I did announce the banner request in the Spanish village pump and there was no opposition to it. Would that count as community consensus at least for Spanish?[1]. Regards,--Freddy eduardo (talk) 23:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Freddy eduardo: I'd consider that sufficient to run the banner on the Spanish Wikipedia, but this does not constitute a "specific community consensus...for a longer run". Best, Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 23:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Vermont. First of all, thank you for your input and for engaging in this discussion. I'm also a member of the Wikiproyecto LGBT+ and wanted to share some additional context about the Pride Month campaign and the proposed banner. Before organizing this year's event, we reached out to many Wikimedia Chapters and User Groups to gather their feedback and support. You can find a list of the supporting affiliates at the bottom of the event's main page: Mes del Orgullo 2025. This outreach was not limited to this year—several affiliates also endorsed and participated in the 2024 edition as seen here. These affiliates, which represent the vast majority of UG engaging on eswiki, were contacted individually, and many actively contributed to the event, including by distributing prizes and promoting participation. We believe this demonstrates a broad level of community backing that could reasonably be interpreted as consensus in support of both the event and the banner campaign. That said, we’re happy to continue the conversation and ensure everything is aligned with the guidelines. Thanks again for your guidance and support. Nacaru · Talk ✉ 15:04, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the issue was not the breadth of support but the lack of an explicit mention of duration in those discussions. or that's my guess. --Jeremyb (talk) 15:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeremyb, the event is related to Pride Month, I strongly believe it was clear for all parties during discussions that it would be running for the whole of June. Nacaru · Talk ✉ 15:38, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Nacaru: There does not exist a "specific community consensus" for a longer run. If you want to run this for the full month, you need specific community consensus from each project. This is made clear in the CN guidelines, and this the third time I have pointed to this line on this page. Regarding your note about affiliates being contacted about the banner, "community" refers to the communities of the projects on which the banner would be running and not the affiliates who organize events on those projects.
However, it's probably not too late to get that consensus. Once we re-enable the banner, we can do so for two weeks. You (or whoever's organizing this) can start discussions on the English, Spanish, and French Wikipedias proposing to run this banner for the full month. If that consensus exists after maybe one week, we could enable it to the end of the month. Regards, Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 19:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermont, thanks for specifying. I assume a village pump or talk page thread where there is a vast majority of users showing they would be okay with the banner would count as community consensus? Nacaru · Talk ✉ 22:26, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Nacaru: Village pumps are best — it should be a place of discussion for the project and not just not the topic of the banner (i.e., not a Wikiproject LGBT+ talk page). Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 22:35, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Central Notice admin comments

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Banner is WikiLovesPride_2025.

I started for now with 3 impressions. (but see above, disabled for resizing) Looking for any thoughts about how to manage diet throughout the month. Maybe including a periodic reset (weekly?) and/or raising impression count later to give a few more to people that got earlier and allow new people to catch up.