Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Mobile and apps/Enable video uploads from Commons mobile app
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Enable video uploads from Commons mobile app
- Problem: Still images can be uploaded from the mobile Commons app, but videos cannot be. Even if the app supported uploading video files, mobile devices take videos in non-free formats, usually H.264 in an MP4 container.
- Who would benefit: Mobile users who take video.
- Proposed solution: Phones generally take video in patent-encumbered MP4 format. The Commons app should include a copy of
ffmpeg
or an equivalent, and encode the video in the best available free format (at this point, WebM with VP9 and Opus) at a comparable bitrate at the appropriate quality. (See File:Front_loading_garbage_truck_loading_a_dumpster.webm, especially the 'Technical Details' field, for an example of this being done manually.)
- More comments: See also Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Multimedia and Commons/Upload and instant conversion of mpeg and avi etc for a broader proposal; see also a discussion on Commons from a few years back.
- Phabricator tickets:
- Proposer: Grendelkhan (talk) 00:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Translations: none yet
Discussion
[edit]- How will the resulting flood of copyvios, social networking junk and other out of scope stuff be dealt with? To the best of my knowledge, there's no reverse video search engine. MER-C (talk) 04:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @MER-C: That's a great question. Past discussions suggested significant ratelimits and/or trust bars (edit count, account age) being met. It could even be a requested permission to begin with. If copyvios and social networking junk aren't problems with the current Commons mobile uploads, I don't think they'll be a problem here. (See "This app has never been responsible for any copyvio/selfie-pocalypse" at the app's documentation page on Commons.) Grendelkhan (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Video copyvios don't seem problematic; a mobile app is the most cumbersome way imaginable to upload those. Selfies etc. could be a problem, that depends on the design and the userbase of the app. Given the past history of the Commons app, there doesn't seem to be much cause for concern, though. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Endorse--BugWarp (talk) 13:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @BugWarp: The voting phase has not started yet, so I changed your "Support" into "Endorse" to avoid misunderstandings. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 15:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Grendelkhan: If this is about a Wikipedia mobile app, why would you propose to upload videos to a Wikipedia and not to Wikimedia Commons (there is also an app for Commons)? --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 15:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @AKlapper (WMF): I meant the Commons app; I've clarified that. Sorry for the confusion! Grendelkhan (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Voting
[edit]- Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:15, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Very useful to improve the Commons app. Pepe piton (talk) 15:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Thomas Obermair 4 (talk) 22:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Shizhao (talk) 03:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 10:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Daylen (talk) 01:35, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Syced (talk) 09:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Theklan (talk) 18:48, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support ~Cybularny Speak? 12:38, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 13:14, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Tom Ja (talk) 14:27, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:26, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Gryllida 00:57, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Halibutt (talk) 15:03, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Alangi Derick (talk) 15:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Nicor (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Jnanaranjan sahu (talk) 06:45, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Psychoslave (talk) 08:23, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support BugWarp (talk) 13:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)