Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Mobile and apps/Mobile app for editing and contributory actions

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  • Problem: Многие посетители Википедии и братских проектов читают их через мобильные устройства, в особенности через смартфоны. К сожалению, сегодня и мобильное приложение, и мобильная версия сайта годятся лишь для обывательского чтения. Даже для продвинутого чтения они не годятся (невозможно увидеть скрытые категории, плашки, предупреждения и т.д.). Но через мобильные устройства могло бы быть удобно править вики "на лету". Можно было бы патрулировать статьи, выполнять административные действия, переименовывать страницы и т.д. Могло бы - потому что сейчас это либо неудобно, либо невозможно.
  • Translation: many Wikipedia and sister project visitors are reading them from their mobile devices, especially smartphones. Unfortunately, right now both the mobile app as well as mobile site are suitable only for casual reading. Even advanced reading is impossible as hidden categories, navboxes, warnings, etc are not accessible. But it could have been convenient to edit wikis on the go with mobile devices. We could have patrolled the articles, performed admin actions, moved pages, etc. "Could have" because at the moment it's either impossible or inconvenient.
  • Who would benefit: все редакторы википроектов, а особенно имеющие специальные права. Translation: all wiki editors, especially ones with elevated privileges.
  • Proposed solution: предлагается создать полноценное редакторское мобильное приложение. Основное его поле - окно для чтения и редактирования статей, при этом верхняя его часть должна быть оснащена кнопками "Действия над страницей" (по нажатии предлагаются варианты: править, отпатрулировать, переименовать, удалить, просмотреть историю, просмотреть сведения и т.д), "Обсуждение" (открывает СО статьи, можно принять участие в обсуждении) и "Меню" (открывает боковое меню, в котором находятся: список наблюдения, профиль участника, статистика вики, список неотпатрулированных страниц с фильтрами, настройки бота, действия над учётными записями, кнопка добровольных пожертвований и иные инструменты). Приложение должно иметь современный дизайн, общепринятый для мобильных приложений. Я думаю, у всех есть смартфон и все представляют, как должно выглядеть удобное и современное приложение. Если будет принято решение делать - могу вступить в команду разработчиков и принять участие в разработке интерфейса для него.
  • Translation: I propose to create a full-blown editing mobile app. Its main interface feature would be a window for article reading and editing, and above it there should be buttons for "Page actions" (upon pressing it you would would see options: edit, patrol, move, see history, see info, etc), "Discussion" (opens article talk pages so you could participate in discussions) and "Menu" (opens a sidebar menu that would have: watchlist, user profile, wiki statistics, list of unpatrolled pages with filters, bot settings, account actions, button for fundraising and other tools). The app should have modern design, using standard practices for mobile apps. I think that everybody has a smartphone so everybody should have an idea how a convenient and modern app should look. If a decision will be made to make it, I could join the development team and participate in development of interface for it.
  • More comments: допускаю перспективы дальнейшего развития приложения следующим образом:
  1. Функция "Локатор" - определяет местоположение и рекомендует к ознакомлению статьи Википедии и Викигида о достопримечательностях поблизости, а также показывает фотографии с Викисклада на карте (подобно приложению HINP для соцсетей).
  2. Геймификация работы над статьями. Сделал N правок - получи звёздочку "Редактор такого-то уровня". Написал N дизамбигов - получи значок "Неоднозначная личность". Отпатрулировал больше всех статей за день - получи эмблему "Патрульный-пулемётчик". Создал сколько-то статей - посмотри, сколько процентов участников написали больше тебя. Написал путеводитель родного города - получи статус "Краевед". Понравилась работа другого редактора - поставь ему плюсик. Это повысит интерес к редактированию и привлечёт новичков.
  3. Изготовление такого приложения как универсального средства для любого проекта на движке MediaWiki. Часть функций, возможно, придётся выпилить.
  • Translation: I can imagine the following future development of the app:
  1. Location feature, determines your location and suggests nearby Wikipedia and Wiktionary articles, also showing photos from Commons on the map (like the HINP app for social networks).
  2. Gamefication of article work. After you've made N edits you could get an "X level editor" barnstar. For creating N disambiguations you could get a "Disambiguous personality" sign. If you've patrolled more articles in a day than anybody else, get a "Machinegun patroller" badge. If you've created this many articles, you could see how many people have created more than you. If you wrote a guide to your hometown you could get a "Local expert" status. If you liked another editor's work, you could give them an upvote. This would increase the interest in editing and attract more novices.
  3. Make such app an universal tool for evey MediaWiki based wiki. Some features might have to be removed.
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Discussion[edit]

Strong Endorse--BugWarp (talk) 13:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

@BugWarp: The voting phase has not started yet, so I changed your "Support" into "Endorse" to avoid misunderstandings. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 15:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
@JMinor (WMF): Any thoughts on this? Ryan Kaldari (WMF) (talk) 22:04, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
In general the Foundation's apps teams would love to improve the editing capabilities, either of the existing app, or potentially through a "purpose built" app for editing and administration. Unfortunately neither the apps teams or nor the Community tech team is currently staffed to take on such a large and important project. That said, if this is in the top wishes, that would change the conversation and make it much more likely to get resourced adequately. -- JMinor (WMF) (talk) 23:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

I would prefer the mobile version of wikipedia (mobile view) to be optimized in a similar way. Such improvements would be acessible from all devices so anyone could benefit form them and wikipedia mobile would behave similar on diffrent devices. The development of excellent and fullscale open platform solutions should be priorititzed to walled garden applications. --X:: black ::X (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC), updated 22:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC) and 11:59, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

This proposal is about features which are currently only usable on mobile web, not in apps. So mobile web doesn’t have to be optimizes in a similar way, it already is. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
In the (englisch translation of the) proposed solution it says "[…] above it there should be buttons for "Page actions" (upon pressing it you would would see options: […] patrol, move, […] see info, etc) […] and "Menu" (opens a sidebar menu that would have: […] wiki statistics, list of unpatrolled pages with filters, bot settings, account actions, button for fundraising and other tools). […] [S]hould have modern design […]." I don't regard it as necessary to realize these proposed elements exactly like this, but I don't see the mobile version to have realized these or similar features in a quality more or less similar to the proposal. Especially if I assume that a modern design must be ergonomic, functional, easy to use and adaptable (to hadicaps, screens etc.) (e. g. highlighting unseen changes in the watchlist or even making accessibe Wikitext syntax highlighting to the same time as in the desktop version). --X:: black ::X (talk) 14:02, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I haven’t noticed these. Then I modify: this proposal contains elements which are already available on mobile web, so that ones don’t have to be optimized on mobile web, only in apps. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Voting[edit]

  • Support Support Jcornelius (talk) 09:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support David1010 (talk) 11:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:13, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Thomas Obermair 4 (talk) 22:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 10:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Djsasso (talk) 11:51, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support DerFussi 17:18, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ermahgerd9 (talk) 21:01, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support ZellmerLP (talk) 22:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support All but basic editing via a small mobile is a real challenge. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:39, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Zhangj1079 talk 01:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support One of my top 10 Force Radical (talk) 06:47, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support strongly Exilexi (talk) 15:09, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:14, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support I would LOVE to be able to edit easily either on the app that exists OR in an app that could supplant the WP app on my Android phone. Since switching to a smartphone 4 years ago, I look at WP far more on my phone than on desktop, and it's super-frustrating not to be able to edit more easily.
    Also, I have not yet seen a proposal that would make it possible/easier to see the Talk page of an article via mobile app, but that feature should be included if this app is developed. Can't tell you how many times I've been reading an article in the WP Android app and wanted an easy way to view the Talk page to see if some issue I'm noticing has been addressed. Lawikitejana (talk) 02:18, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Superchilum(talk to me!) 20:21, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ckoerner (talk) 21:38, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support This should be the #1 priority. It will be very convenient, and expand editorship opportunities to the "mobile generation", as well as the global south. Regards, James (talk/contribs) 10:33, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support ~Cybularny Speak? 12:39, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 13:21, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Victorgrigas (talk) 20:06, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support WikiMasterGhibif (talk) 23:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Talmoryair (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:57, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose This is a nice idea, and is something someone should do, but there are far higher priorities for WMF to devote cycles to, like fixing numerous key bugs and misfeatures in the basic toolset most of us use most of the time.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  07:42, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Trockennasenaffe (talk) 20:52, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support JAn Dudík (talk) 21:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Akbarali (talk) 01:53, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ahm masum (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Nicor (talk) 13:58, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support strongly BugWarp (talk) 12:59, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support I want more editing and showing categories. Infovarius (talk) 13:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support KPFC💬 16:57, 11 December 2017 (UTC)