Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Archive/Add a search and ranking system to structured discussions

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Add a search and ranking system to structured discussions

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  • Problem: Add a search and ranking system to structured discussions (Flow). Many things could be added and corrected in order to have a better navigation between topics of a discussion page.
  • Proposed solution: Add standard features on discussions systems :
    • an "internal search" for a discussion page
    • filter open / closed topics
    • move topics
    • improve summary when there is many topics : it is currently impossible to access old topics without "a long scroll".
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Discussion

@Prométhée: Under "Problem", could you please describe a specific, discrete root problem? "The software is incomplete" is not a problem per se - basically every software is incomplete as someone can always request a new feature. :) Please also see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019#proposalsphase - it's unclear which problem would be solved by "improving". Thanks! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 03:38, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AKlapper (WMF): I already propose four features in this topic. Other contributors can add their ideas. Prométhée (talk) 10:45, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Prométhée: What is "improve summary" exactly? Without a description of an actual problem, nobody else can guess what to improve exactly. Again, proposals should be about one specific and discrete problem, but this proposal seems to be about four problems instead. See the link I provided. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 16:31, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I renamed the proposal and made changes to bring precisions. Prométhée (talk) 08:26, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Prométhée, I have good news and bad news about this proposal. :) The good news is that the Wikimedia Foundation is starting the planning process for a big global Talk pages consultation which will begin in February. The idea is that we need to step back from LiquidThreads and Flow, and start over with a totally public and transparent consultation. We want to bring together as many people as possible, and come to consensus on the problems with talk pages that we want to solve, the good things about talk pages that we want to keep, and the tradeoffs involved in finding a solution that will work for new and experienced editors. You can read a lot more about it on that project page that I linked. The planning has just started, and we're starting to talk about the structure for this consultation and how it's going to work.

The bad news for right now is that we don't want to include proposals about talk pages in the Wishlist Survey voting. No matter what happens in the Wishlist Survey voting, all of the future talk page work will be determined by the Talk pages consultation happening next year. We don't want people to vote for something, and then find out that we still have to have another process before we make any decisions.

But -- these proposals and the discussions that people are having here are important, and I've added a section on the Talk pages consultation page which lists each of the related proposals, so that they can be a part of the public record during this planning stage. We'd like to include all of you in the consultation -- and in the planning, if you're interested. There's a lot to talk about and figure out.

I'm sure this will be disappointing right now; I hope it's also heartening to know that this problem will get a lot of attention next year. Let me know what you think. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 06:41, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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