Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Multimedia and Commons/Present 3D content in a stereoscopic view

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  • Problem: With the advent of the IPhone X and the Windows updates people are moving toward a widespread usage of augmented reality applications. If Wikipedia doesn't start to prepare for the future now, people may at some point still read texts that originate from wikipedia, but are presented by social media platforms and presented with non-free media, that was not uploadad to Wikipedia, but to proprietary non-free repositories.
  • Who would benefit: Photographers and Videographers, who can start to contribute content for future AR use, authors who can use VR content, readers, who can view Wikipedia in 3D, deverlopers, who have access to a large repository of 3D content
Dem Wahren Schönen Guten (Click image to view in 3D)
  • Proposed solution:
    • add media type jps to allowed upload formats in commons.
    • tag uploaded videos in cardboard, sbs and ttb formats in Commons as 3D.
    • turn toollabs Stereoskopie into a mediawiki extension
    • support viewing of 3d media in MediaViewer
    • make the android app functional (modes for single device, 2 devices, viewing of content)
    • add app for iOS (or create a Arduino HID project to release cameras via KeyEvent.Volume_Up)
    • make the stereoskopie desktop app functional
    • empower kiwix to support VR
A Wiki-article employing threedimensional media
  • More comments:
    • Stereoscopy has always suffered from two problems: The sparse availability of affordable cameras. And the problem, that the recording system had to match the viewing system - and for both parts there always was a large number of systems to choose from. This proposal addresses both fields:
      • An app is offered, that turns every camera, that can be controlled with bluetooth or wifi into a stereoscopic camera. And every pair of pictures (old stereoscopic pictures already available at commons, pictures that have been taken with a single camera, that has been moved between to takes) can be converted into a jps-file with the desktop-app.
      • One source (an image in the standard jps-format, a video in sbs, cardboard or top&bottom format) can be played out in basically every thinkable 3D-system (cardboard, 3DTV, pol (cinema system), prisma, anaglyph with any color code and also with systems, that do not require glasses at all: lenticular, crossed eyes and holographic pyramid). New playout-variants can be added and will work with existing content.
    • The Stereoskopie project is unfinished. A conversion to PHP, load scaling, robust caching and a Wiki-CI UI will need to be made. Content on the demo page will be added before voting starts.

Discussion[edit]

Hi Gradzeichen. This wish is a little too big for all the work involved. I'd encourage you to split it up. Maybe keep this proposal only about converting the tool to an extension and propose other wishes for supporting 3D viewing and making app(s). Thank you. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 17:59, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

I will not split the proposal, so that the votes get not splitted. However, if the proposal gets voted into the top 10, the wishlist team may implement as much of it, as resources sensibly allow. For a start upload of jps-files could be allowed, then 3D (image and video) files may be tagged automatically, so that they can be excluded or included to search, then the MediaViewer could be enabled to only show the left half of a file for an 2D display of the file, and than go on how far it is possible. Sources of my implementation of the algorithms can be found at github, and may (or may not) be helpful. --𝔊 (Gradzeichen DiſkTalk) 15:17, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Gradzeichen Okay. In that case, I would encourage you to rename the proposal to be more generic so people will click on it more. Most people might not be aware of what Stereoskopie is and that could discourage them from clicking on the wish and reading the description. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 18:36, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
I have tried to come up with another name, that is catchy to native speakers and understandable to others and still decriptive to the proposal. I have contempleted, if the original name should still be appended or not. But I have not come to a solution. Maybe you have an idea? --𝔊 (Gradzeichen DiſkTalk) 15:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
What do you think of this - Add support for 3D content in Wikimedia wikis? I think it is catchy, understandable and preserves most of the proposal . -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
The problem I see with "3D" is, that it is often (including in wikipedia) used for 2D files, that show something that is threedimensional (example: File:3D Model of the Main Gallery in Skednena jama Cave.svg). While the proposal is about content actually viewable in 3D (stereoscopic). --𝔊 (Gradzeichen DiſkTalk) 17:22, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
The title is only there to give a high-level idea of the proposal so people click through and read the proposal. It's not a great idea to try to get all the details into the title. :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 18:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

All those wobbling images are horrible; I hope that, if the proposal is realised, they will not appear on wiki pages. PJTraill (talk) 00:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

+1 these are very bad 'examples' and "clicking on them" doesn't do anything useful. — xaosflux Talk 20:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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