Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Categories/Context-dependent sort key
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Context-dependent sort key
- Problem: In most Wiktionary projects, words of different languages share a page if their spellings are identical. Currently, the magic word DEFAULTSORT works for an entire page, which means we cannot define a default sort key for each language in the same page. That is an issue especially for Chinese, Japanese and Korean (hanja). They share characters but their sort keys are totally different (radicals or pinyin for Chinese, kana for Japanese, hangeul for Korean). If it is allowed to define a default sort key for each section, it will be much easier to correctly categorize pages.
- Who would benefit: Editors of Wiktionary, especially those who edit Chinese and Japanese entries.
- Proposed solution: Introduction of a new magic word, say, SECTIONSORT, that works for all categories after it up to the next usage of the same magic word. SECTIONSORT should override DEFAULTSORT if both are defined. The use of SECTIONSORT without a sort key should clear the previous sort key (and should not define an empty sort key).
- More comments: See Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Wiktionary/Context-dependent sort key for a discussion in 2017. It is still a problem. See Community Wishlist Survey 2020/Wiktionary/Context-dependent sort key for further discussion (and support).
- Phabricator tickets: phab:T183747
- Proposer: Urhixidur (talk) 15:43, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
- Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Wiktionary/Context-dependent sort key
- Community Wishlist Survey 2020/Wiktionary/Context-dependent sort key
- I am unsure it is belong here or in the Wiktionary board, but I am totally favorable. This is an issue not only for editors but also for the readers as the content of most categories are messed because of a wrong key. Wiktionary have this problem because there is a content about multiple languages in a single page. I am not sure others peers projects share the exact same issue. Noé (talk) 12:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Voting
Support Noé (talk) 19:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Thryduulf (talk: meta · en.wp · wikidata) 20:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Xinbenlv (talk) 04:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Support —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 06:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Support GlennByrnes6 (talk) 08:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Support JAn Dudík (talk) 10:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Elefantikus (talk) 10:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Urhixidur (talk) 16:08, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Pamputt (talk) 17:21, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Libcub (talk) 18:28, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Support BoldLuis (talk) 11:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Tuvalkin (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Fixer88 (talk) 09:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Locoluis (talk) 17:07, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Support BradChim (talk) 14:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Thibaut (talk) 17:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)