Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Notifications

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Notifications
7 proposals, 22 contributors
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Real-Time notification

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem: Notifications are not Real-Time if encase of surprise block after users save the edit, however this need to be refresh the page to seen notification.
  • Who would benefit: Contributors
  • Proposed solution: while Contributors are editing may receive an notification without refreshing an page, this helpful for slow internet connection and while reading.
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: Farpen (talk) 03:55, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Hi Farpen. I have some questions about your proposal. You mention blocks in your "problem" statement. Is that an example of how you came up with this idea? Would your wish be for "real-time" notifications that don't require a page refresh even if those notifications are not about blocks? What other kinds of notifications would be helpful as "real-time" notifications? --AEzell (WMF) (talk) 23:39, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
    • If user was blocked from editing, a "you have a new message" will appear without refreshing, but if user tried to save an edit then an blocked text will appear. Other kind of notification like alerts from "your edit was reverted", "your edit has thanked" and "article reviewed". It maybe useful for any kind of notification like "alerts" and "notices". "Real-Time" notification are not required to refresh an page, those user was blocked without warning may not received an notification and may see a block notice. -Farpen (talk) 02:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Categorize notifications

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem: Every notification is just listed with barely few to no categories, especially those who contribute to one project (or just a few)
  • Who would benefit: Editors
  • Proposed solution: Categorize notifications into: Talk page message / Security / User mentions / You've got email / Others, etc.
  • More comments: This will mean revamp of the notifications system, and would hope to make some other suggestions (e.g. notification on page being edited) being viable and not overwhelm the whole system
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: 1233 T / C 13:42, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Add one point: It is dumb to select what category to be notified but, when there are notifications, every category just sits there and mix. Categorizing the type before the message received timestamp can smoothen this issue and enable more notification types to be added while not affecting the ease of use of the notification system.--1233 T / C 14:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @1233: I'm not sure I follow. What do you mean by "categories"? As in, the icon you see that indicates what type of notification it is? Or do you feel there should be more notification flyouts (right now there is a button for "alerts" and a button for "notices")? Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 22:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Sort the notifications by category before by time, at here. e.g. when you click the notification button, it can categorize. e.g. Sort thank yous before mentions before left a message before failed attempts, etc.--1233 T / C 06:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Automatically Notify a User when ANY of their subpages are edited

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem: Any edits made to User subpages, or their associated talk pages, fail to result in an automatic notification (unlike edits to the main User Page and Talk Page. This leaves all subpages not only open to bad faith editing, but also to a failure of the Notification system to alert the User of a genuine attempt to communicate on any of those subpages. After all, each User sub-page still has its own Talk page - it's just that notifications of edits there don't get sent.
  • Who would benefit: All Users who maintain one or more subpages in their userspace.
  • Proposed solution: Ensure an automatic notification is sent to the User whenever another editor changes content on any of their subpages
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets: Send a notification when someone else edits your userpage and Extend edit-user-talk notification to include edits to subpages of a user's talk page
  • Proposer: Nick Moyes (talk) 22:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

I agree notifications are crucial for keeping the community interactive. I also lack notifications for inline comments in all Talk pages (in case no explicit ping is made). Cheater no1 (talk) 10:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC) Seems reasonable. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | enwiki 00:08, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Edit Notifications

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem: There are some pages where it is important knowing when are edited (ex. Requests to administrators), and just adding them to the watchlist can slow down the response times.
  • Who would benefit: Patrollers, admins, other contributors.
  • Proposed solution: Making users able to create a list of pages that will send them a notification when edited.
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: ValeJappo【〒】 07:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • I think it wouldn't be hard to add an option for watchlists to notify, but that would quickly overwhelm the notification system... --Izno (talk) 05:00, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
It could be arranged in a two-tier system, with normal addition to watchlist working as currently and some specific pages in that list (to be selected by user) also appear as notification.--FAR (talk) 12:12, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Requests or Suggestions

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem: It's very important to get updates after you make a request or suggestion. This is especially true in cases where editors are obligated to announce their intention in the discussion page and wait a certain amount of time before taking action. It's too easy to see a problem, leave a message with a proposed course of action, and then forget all about it - because there were no comments by other editors.
  • Who would benefit: Editors
  • Proposed solution: Allow editors to mark themselves as "authors" of a specific section in a talk page, which means they should be notified of any new edit in that section. Also, allow creation of reminders to revisit a certain talk page in X amount of time.
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: Joalbertine (talk) 19:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • In effect this is section-watchlisting, which was part of the discussion had with Discussion Tools - it's particularly difficult in order to make it handle reformatting of section headers, merging, and so on. At the time when they asked which we're rather have, page or section-watchlisting, the consensus was the former was the critical, the latter a nice to have. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:24, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
It sounds similar, but in this context I brought it up for a specific purpose - following comments (or lack thereof) on a discussion that I initiated. This discussion is actually a perfect examle: I'd like to be notified whenever a new comment is added in reply to my proposal above. In this particular case, "section-watchlisting" won't be necessary because each proposal is automatically divided to a separate page. There needs to be some way for me to define this discussion as a special interest. As I explained above, the same goes for proposals made in the form of templates. Notifications are needed for new comments or the complete lack of comments after a certain period of time. --Joalbertine (talk) 19:36, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Joalbertine: That makes sense, but still kind of confusing. User:MemeGod27 3:20, 18 November 2020 (EST)
  • Section watchlisting would be great, but the other part of this is just reminding yourself to check back in on proposals you've made where w:WP:SILENCE would be sufficient to take action. I know there are some gadgets that help you manage a to-do list, and improvements to those to implement functionality like timed reminders would be fantastic. Right now, the old-fashioned method of just keeping a list of links in one's sandbox works but isn't very efficient. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 03:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Safari Push Notifications

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem:
  • Who would benefit: Every registered user who receives messages
  • Proposed solution: see here
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: -Killarnee (CTU) 23:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

Alert after adding or removal a CSD tag

Edit proposal/discussion

  • Problem: On smaller wikis, pages that are marked with CSD tags can survive for a long period, even if there are active administrators.
  • Who would benefit: Users who choose to activate this feature from Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo.
  • Proposed solution: Adding an option (that per default, it should be disabled) at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. If you choose to activate that feature: if a CSD tag is added/removed in/from a page, you will receive an alert about that. In order to work, all CSD tags should contain "<includeonly>__ECHOCSD__</includeonly>" (the adding/removal of this magic world should trigger the alert). If there are added more than one CSD tags in page, you should receive only one alert, to prevent spamming. Also if there are added further additional CSD tags or if there are removed some CSD tags, but not the last (you should be announced only if the last CSD tag is removed from a page). To prevent the adding of __ECHOCSD__ magic word without a CSD tag, it should be created an abuse filter which stop other users to add this magic word in a page, but allows them to place it if they place a CSD tag.
  • More comments: Something similar it could be created for unblock requests.
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 12:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Would you please clarify what a "CSD tag" is? --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 15:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    @Matěj Suchánek: A CSD tag is something like en:w:Template:Db. --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 15:55, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Why a notification? Is the intent so that you can go in restore the speedy deletion template? Why not use AbuseFilter to prevent this from happening in the first place? Another option is to tag edits that remove speedy deletion templates for later review. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    @MusikAnimal (WMF): "Why a notification[...]in the first place?" this is a better variant. --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 17:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    Additional, you could receive an alert if a page created by you was deleted, it was marked with a CSD tag or the CSD tag(s) from a page created by you has/have been removed. --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 17:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)