Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Multimedia and Commons/Display all copyright info from the EXIF of the uploaded file in the thumbfiles

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Display all copyright info from the EXIF of the uploaded file in the thumbfiles

  • Problem: In thumbnails, only the lines "author" and "copyright" from EXIF are shown. Copyright info form XMP and IPTC metadata are not shown, and other relevant info from EXIF is also not shown.
  • Proposed solution: Change this thumbnailing process to include more of the EXIF in the thumb
  • Who would benefit: Everyone who wants to avoid ignoring copyright
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets: phab:T5361
  • Proposer: C.Suthorn (talk) 00:47, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

  • This is primarily to reduce datasize. EXIF can contain full images by itself, and can sometimes be bigger than the thumbnail, kinda defeating the point of thumbnailing. I believe it's currently done automatically by imagemagick (the thumbnailer), not by ourselves ? I'd have to check. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:01, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • P.S. what we used to do, was add a link in the comment metadata back to the file page. This functionality got lost when we switched to thumbor, but it was also very limited, as only jpg and png thumbnailing supported this to begin with. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:05, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not aobut keeping all EXIF (like thumbs, f number, apex, flash or exposure time), but imageTitle, keywords, location, webStatement, creator, author, copyright holder, IPTC, XMP etc. C.Suthorn (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • If we were to do more metadata-writing to files (which I think is a great idea), it might be better to look at doing so based on the info in the file page and/or SDC. These are considered the canonical data, and we don't really expect file's EXIF to be accurate (e.g. wrong dates, authors, etc. are allowed to remain in EXIF but will be fixed in the file page). In fact, it'd be nice to be able to download the full-sized file with the correct metadata as well. Sam Wilson 03:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    A file with conflicting copyright infos in the EXIF and in Commons MetaData would need to be deleted or fixed. If a file has "copyright Reuters" in its EXIF/XMP/IPTC than either it needs to be deleted, as it is not freely licensed. Or it is not by Reuters (in which case it will be needed to deleted in most cases also, or be fixed, if it is not actually be Reuters). But adding EXIF from CommonsMetaData to EXIF of thumbs is a good idea. C.Suthorn (talk) 05:28, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Es gibt zahlreiche Fotos von mir, die bei Reuters und Commons sind. Ralf Roletschek (talk) 12:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ralf Roletschek hast Du mal ein Beispiel auf Commons, wie dann die Exif-Daten hier aussehen? Steht da dann auch Reuters drin? C.Suthorn (talk) 14:14, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Die EXIF werden komplett gelöscht, bevor die Dateien zu Reuters gehen. --Ralf Roletschek (talk) 16:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ralf Roletschek Verstehe ich das richtig: In den EXIF-Daten Deiner Dateien auf Commons ist kein Hinweis auf Reuters?? C.Suthorn (talk) 17:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oder willst Du damit sagen, dass Du die EXIF-Daten löschst, die Bilder an Reuters gibt, dann von Reuters herunterlädst und die Bilder mit den EXIF-Daten (genau genommen vermutlich IPTC) auf Commons hochlädst ohne die EXIF-Daten von den Reuters-Daten zu bereinigen? Das wäre ein sehr umständliches Vorgehen. C.Suthorn (talk) 17:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ich komme mal auf deine Disk auf Commons, das führt hier zu weit. --Ralf Roletschek (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It was an interesting discussion, but hasn't to do with the proposal (closed). C.Suthorn (talk) 18:58, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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