Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Wikidata/Popup to link to or create a new Wikidata item after creating an article

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Popup to link to or create a new Wikidata item after creating an article

  • Problem: The problem of connecting newly created articles to existing objects respectivley creating new objects for unconnected pages (when, how, by whom, ...) for hundreds of newly created articles per day in different language versions, and how to avoid duplicates amongst the currently 105 million objects, has been discussed for years again and again without a real solution, for example at d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/RegularBot 2
  • Proposed solution: At d:Wikidata:Contact the development team/Archive/2020/09#Connecting newly created articles to existing objects resp. creating new object - additional step when creating articles, categories, etc. a possible solution has been discussed:

    An additional step after saving a newly created article etc. to present to the user a list of possible matching wikidata objects (e.g. a list of persons with the same name; could be a similar algorithm as the duplicate check / suggestion list in PetScan, see for example this duplicity example

    or the option to create a new object if no one matches (depending one the type of the object, some values could be already be pre-filled and pulled from the article, e.g. from categories or infoboxes). From my point of view, one current problem is, that a lot of creators of articles, categories, navigational items, templates, disambiguations, lists, commonscats, etc. are either not aware of the existance of wikidata or did forget to connect a newly created article etc. to an already existing object or to create a new one if not yet existing, which might lead to (more) duplicates, if this creation respectivley connection is not done manually, but by a bot instead, which have to be merged manually afterwards.

    This pop-up should be presented for:

    • newly created articles in the article namespace
    • articles that have been moved from user/draft namespace to article namespace
    • articles, that have been expanded from a redirect
    • newly created categories
In addition, there could be specialized (depending on the type of the objects, e.g. one bot for humans, one for films, one for buildings, etc.) bots, which are for example able to check for various IDs (like GND, VIAF, LCCN, IMDb, monument-IDs ...) in order to avoid creating duplicates and creates new items or connects matching items based on IDs.

Also, if someone uses the "translation function" to create a translated article in another language version, then the new translated article could be connected automatically to the object of the original article. And after a version import (after a translation), at the moment often the link to the Wikidata object gets lost and the article has to be reconnected again a second time manually.

Also see:

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Statistics of unconnected articles:

Discussion

See also another idea on linking new pages to Wikidata items: phab:T178249. — putnik 22:05, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • How would this work for non-Wikipedia projects? Wikisource items are editions of specific works, that have their own publication data, and they usually should not be added to any existing Wikidata item because they have their own publication data (specific to that edition) that needs to be recorded in a data item for that edition. Would this pop-up recognize the difference between needing a Wikidata item for an edition (specific to Wikidata and to the scan of that edition on Commons) versus a Wikidata item for the work itself, which would link to Wikipedia articles, Commons Categories (not scans), and Wikiquote? Or will the pop-up look for closely-matching items regardless of these issues? The very fact that this proposal is about "articles" shows that it doesn't consider the issues inherent with non-Wikipedia projects. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This functionality could be available on a project base respectivley on a language base, so every community of every project and language version could decide, if this feature should be (de)activated. --M2k~dewiki (talk) 20:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That response does not address the problem I raised. If Wikipedia has it active, but they are adding links for works to editions items, that's a problem, because Wikipedia is then adding information incorrectly to data items. Likewise, if a Wikisource has this active, but it puts links for an edition into a work data item, then it's added the information incorrectly. If English Wikisource has this active, and it causes English edition links for an English edition to be added to a data item for a French edition, then the information has been added incorrectly. Your response does not address these issues. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:08, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Editions could be filtered out in the result sets presented by for example duplicity: https://wikidata-todo.toolforge.org/duplicity.php?wiki=dewiki&norand=1&page=Vasco%5FCordeiro --M2k~dewiki (talk) 16:12, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then how would links be added if the desired target is to be an edition? If it is information for a specific publication, then it's an edition. 99% of data items for Wikisource projects are editions. When a published reference is to be cited, it's a specific edition. And the example link you provided makes no sense in terms of the context of this discussion. Do you understand the difference between a work and an edition? --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've merged "Add interlanguage links" interface should let users input sister wiki pages into this proposal, because it looks like both can be solved with a system of presenting possible existing Wikidata items (and optionally creating a new one with the sitelink already added). These tasks are what the AutosuggestSitelink gadget is aiming to solve, so I'd suggest that we'd look at adding any missing functionality there. For example, when creating a new Wikisource edition page, often there is no item for the edition but we could prompt to find the appropriate work item and if one exists create the edition item with all links as appropriate. (Details t.b.d. of course! Hopefully I'm not handwaving away something impossible there.) SWilson (WMF) (talk) 07:17, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T308059

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