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Regarding Contact us

Hi,

I was reading your article on Oetzi, the Iceman, and think that his dates in the side column are backwards. He should be listed as born ca. 3345 BC and as having died ca. 3300 BC. Please disregard if I am mistaken.

Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.27.182.31 (talk) 12:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

w:Oetzi seems okay as of today.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Privacy policy

Mazbi Sikh is not a Sikh chura please change it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.3.136.91 (talk) 03:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Accueil

Bonjour, il y a une coquille à la fin... les serveux internet au lieu des serveurs internet. Cordialement, --Hsarrazin (talk) 18:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

donations

You are asking, in BIG letters, to make a donation to your project.

Even though I agree with the fact your task should be supported, your privacy policy for donors (which should indeed be called “policy for the absence of privacy”) is absolutely unacceptable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.94.0.9 (talk) 17:37, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Stories

This page is very large, and needs section and subsection headers. Or it should be split into subpages. The page is current 700KB. --George Ho (talk) 02:27, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

wikimediafoundation.org

James, Thank you for including me in your solicitations for donations. I am unemployed and unable to donate money. However, I would be happy to volunteer some of my time to helping you keep up the good work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.97.49.178 (talk) 15:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Простота пожертвований

Не хочу делиться персональной информацией, но хочу сделать пожертвование. Простой адрес биткоина есть? Платёжной карты? Здесь нужно регистрироваться https://www.coinbase.com/checkouts/81b41f8984dd5544ad4246a1dd0be0a9. Зачем? Вывесьте адрес + поле для коммента для отчёта (моего, типа на адрес сброшено тогда-то). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 178.219.91.96 (talk) 16:04, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

I wish we can create an account on Wikimedia for the purpose of customizing the way WMF looks. Other than that, users cannot edit any namespace unless if their account is activated here. UpsandDowns1234 (🗨) 00:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org (Resolution:Licensing policy)

1) Please do restore Resolution:Licensing_policy page to earlier previous version (of December 2008) since https://freedomdefined.org/Definition this portal is functioning again.

2) Please store archive copy of https://freedomdefined.org/Definition (along with multi language translations) and also link for reference some where; so if https://freedomdefined.org/Definition website becomes non-functional again, in any case one should be able to refer the text

Thanks and regards

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 02:35, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Billinghurst. Any thoughts on point one? Restoring the original link seems reasonable to me. --MZMcBride (talk) 07:09, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
I have reimplemented the original text. Re point 2, we would just go back to the cache link if required, wouldn't we?  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:31, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Tax Deductibility/fr

Hello,

Could you please add information for the main french speaking country, especially Switzerland and Belgium?

Best,

--AntonierCH(d) 08:07, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Pcoombe (WMF): --Base (talk) 04:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Tax Deductibility/fr

Hello, dears, Foundation cousins,
(Sorry for my rusty english). My pseudo is Kikuyu3, a WP Fr editor, a bit active till recently within the french chapter WM Fr.
Some suggestion to be introduced to this text intended to french speaking persons :

  • the title should be changed to french "Déduction fiscale", as it is more likely to be seeked for than the english "Tax Deductibility/fr" ;
  • section France should be added some sentence like "If you pay income revenue taxes in France, you may consider donating directly to the french chapter Wikimedia France (https://www.wikimedia.fr/). Under certain conditions, it gives you the right to be partly (66 % ) refunded ; please visit https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impôt sur le revenu (France)#Les réductions d'impôt on wikipdédia in french or the specific page on the website of the Ministère des Finances : https://www.economie.gouv.fr/cedef/reductions-impots-dons-aux-oeuvres."
  • United Kingdom : there should be a specific section, titled "Royaume-Uni" as there are plenty of french speaking workers installed for a while elesewhere in this area. The present sentence about the Gift Aid is somehow hidden in the section other countries. Last : the wording of the end of the sentence should better be either "... s'appliquera pas aux dons alloués à la Wikimedia Foundation" or either "s'appliquera pas aux dons établis au bénéfice de la Wikimedia Foundation".
  • Switzerland : as per https://www.wikimedia.ch/fr/faire-un-don/dduction-fiscale/ it seems the whole donation may be deducted.
  • I have juste sent an email to the Belgium chapter so as they send you the specific page to inform your readers.
  • in the section Autres pays, the Note importante should be separated (line feed).

In general, I think this text is not sincere, in which it does not inform completely the donator that he can benefit of tax deductions, giving his money to a chapter instead of the Foundation. Every year, some of them complain about this, telling how they feel it dishonest. We probably loose some of them the following year. Hope a solution will be found.

Cordialement, et Hop ! Kikuyu3 (talk) 16:16, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@AntonierCH, Base, and Kikuyu3: Thank you all for the feedback. Just to let you know we are hoping to make some changes to the Tax Deductibility pages soon, and are checking with WMF Legal what can be included. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 16:45, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank_You subpages on wikimediafoundation.org…

…are shamelessly outdated, like be-tarask, which has 2009 year templates on it. Are they translated-updated by volunteers or a certain staffer now? Thanks for reply --Ата (talk) 10:48, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Pcoombe (WMF), perhaps as the author of the template currently in use you have a clue how to address this. --Base (talk) 04:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

Bom dia. Vou me comunicar em português, pois assim é mais fácil para mim. No Brasil, as pessoas desconfiam muito do sistema de pagamento via internet. Para nós brasileiros é mais fácil o pagamento via boleto (um documento pagável via código de barras). Tentei contribuir com R$10,00, mas deu falhas. A opção via boleto ajudaria muito.

Regarding Talk:El libro inexistente

"El libro inexistente. Hasta llegar Ina a La puerta"es la primera parte de la novela de ciencia ficción y aventuras del escritor español Juan Carlos Santos Z. en su primera edición publicada por la editorial Ruiz de Aloza en 2015 en español con formato papel y epub y ebook en kindle. amazon. El corte inglés entre otros sitios web. llegando a estar disponible por internet en America. Asia. Europa y Oceanía para los amantes de la ciencia ficción las aventuras y el misterio.

En el libro Inexistente se cuenta las aventuras de la señorita Ina una maestra de inglés y español que realiza un viaje apasionante romantico y misterioso con sus compañeros amigos y alumnos hasta España que por misteriosos contratiempos terminan viviendo unas aventuras emocionantes e inolvidables. Este libro lo escribio Juan Carlos Santos para su efriend Ina de Polonia una maestra en el mundo real que padecia LAM una enfermedad pulmonar que por desgracia fallecio poco después de publicarse este libro por Internet sin conseguir su escritor su sueño de ayudarla haciendola famosa para que los mejores medicos se fijasen en su caso y encontrasen una solución para la Lam. decidiendo dedicar a causas beneficas los beneficios de dicho libro... "El Libro Inexistente. Primera parte"

Regarding wmf:Wikimedia official marks/Word mark creation#Preparing files for upload

The instructions about logo size seem to conflict with current practice. In particular, the WMF instructions call for a 135×155 (W×H) logo, whereas mw:Manual:FAQ#How do I change the logo? and Template:New wiki request — used in the approval process for new content language wikis — recommend 135×135 or 150×150. (See Template talk:New wiki request#Another problem: Project logo for some additional context.) - dcljr (talk) 22:47, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Heather, it is your department page according to its author and category it is in. Could you take a look at this piece of feedback? --Base (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
It looks like I misunderstood "current practice". The instructions have been changed at mw:Manual:FAQ and at wmf:Wikimedia official marks/Word mark creation to try to clarify the situation. (Note that I had to ask a third party to look into this issue. The posts here and one to Heather's talk page resulted in no action or explanation whatsoever. FYI.) - dcljr (talk) 03:24, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

website error

"eclipse 2017" has a line submitted that says trump supporters can view eclipse without glasses —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 47.156.206.233 (talk) 15:28, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi. I guess that you are referring to this article on Wikipedia in English. It's not part of the Wikimedia Foundations wiki, but it seems to be fixed now. -- Tegel (Talk) 15:36, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Redirect foundation:Friendly Space Policy to foundation:Friendly space policy

Could you please redirect foundation:Friendly Space Policy to foundation:Friendly space policy? Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 03:58, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Base (talk) 04:29, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

wikimediafoundation.org

今回ほ方法がWikimedia1財団ではよろしくないというかもしれない。 なたえいごでへんとうをせよというかもしれない。 さんざんそういwれてきたことであるから。 君たちはわたしがきくみみをみおたないとうまえにまずこの病人がいい鵜戸身幾も幾度を書いてきたことがらを読み死して咀嚼しなければならない。 私はただの無名の目㎜バーではない。 最近の54年間はサイバーテロと戦ってきた内容をこと鼓膜しるしてきた技術者であるがいともたやすく削除してくれたおかげでその蓄えられたはぞの膨大な知識を無駄にしたのはだれであるのかを考えてみることも重要であろうと思う。 初心者が一度とまずくと「即座に即時削除」され以降はさしずめ子供いじめを彷彿するかのように、一部の管理人によってパワー0ハラスメントを植え続ける体質に少しでも一石を投じよう、実際勉強したよ。 現在はCreaitiveCommons Licence をほぼすべて取得同曽木氏から大学院へも進学して学位も取り、WIKI財団ほぼすべて網羅現在の権限を得た私はスタッフ~(無給)としてこれを書いています、貢献者にもなっれいるとから非常勤ながら有給の役員へ変わりことにしたのでここに ハラスメント対策室長を役員としておき、常勤には室長代行して副室長を置きたいを思いますので理事会の承諾を得てください。—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Liminoue (talk) 04:28, 26 August 2017 (UTC)--2400:412A:99BA:3300:C81A:9AAD:8B23:AFF7 04:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC)Liminoude(Sorry) Thank you!-->--2400:412A:99BA:3300:C81A:9AAD:8B23:AFF7 04:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC)Liminoude

ハラスメント等に関する委員会

先に対策室あいまって理事会は委員会として委員を募集してハラスメント等に関する委員会を設けてください。

先の室長はThe Room Chai 秘書 の一人は病院が近畿大学付属病院であることから日本勤務となりまあす 、代行は  Seet 秘書 副室長はBorad  他Staff  室長は重役です

委員長はBorad とします。 常勤委員と職員は有給です —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Liminoue (talk) 04:45, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

How are benefactors chosen?

I made a donation between $1,000 and $4,999 last year, but I didn't get mentioned on the list of sustaining benefactors. How do you choose which people and organizations get acknowledged? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:182:cf80:a6f2:2432:5919:c198:3f8b (talk) 03:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding MediaWiki:Permissionserrors

I am wondering... should it read "Wikimedia Foundation feedback"? Ups and Downs () 03:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

Currently there are some inappropriate nude pictures that appear at the top on the first card when opening Wikipedia through the app and I just wanted to bring this to your attention in case you were not already aware ok thanks and I hope you can fix this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 107.77.214.209 (talk) 12:50, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Privacy policy

lawa is high temp. than why fish bone in active in rock its not right —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 47.247.7.130 (talk) 16:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
X mark.svg Not done, sorry the feedback you have left is unintelligible, so if English is not your native language, you may leave feedback in your native language even though it may take longer to get a reply you are more likely to get your point across. Zppix (talk) 19:19, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Values

Could this page be translated? It was mentioned several years to not translate directly this page. I think it is now stabilised. Pamputt (talk) 17:53, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

There is no nepali language —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 103.10.28.56 (talk) 09:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


There is. Please see here. --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 19:42, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

i wish you had a 800 telephone number so that I could tell you that I only want to send you a cheque , payable in Canadian dollars to a Canadian address. I will never again send my credit card number over the computer . I do want to donate . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.163.53.11 (talk) 15:20, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Regarding File talk:LinLibertineO 473.zip

Is this the correct font for the Wikipedia tagline? The "W" is not showing up as the stylized version mentioned here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation#The_type_face:_Linux_Libertine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Berkelean (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

on your page about cumulets fancy pigeon breeds, the picture you have of a bird depicting the breed is not a cumulet,

I have bred and owned cumulets and my late father bred them for fifty years. the picture may be a cumulet cross but is not a pure cumulet as the pure cumulets have a pearl eye not a solid dark eye and the the shape of the beak of a cumulet is straight not curved. the picture is more representative of a tippler or self short faced tumbler.

                                                                           Mr. R. Redpath. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2a00:23c1:a68c:6e00:9040:e857:654e:9cac (talk) 18:39, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, can you point to a specific location? Thanks. --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 19:38, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Visual identity guidelines

"substitue" → "substitute". Jc86035 (talk) 15:46, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Killiondude (talk) 00:00, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding File talk:Wikipedia puzzle globe 3D render.zip

Consider hosting the improved version which is available at https://github.com/slashme/WikipediaGlobePrintable --Slashme (talk) 19:56, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Tagging User:CAnanian_(WMF) --Slashme (talk) 16:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:FAQ/de

The page could use an update. Lila is still "ED" in the German translation. The German translation could also use a do-over. Braveheart (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the history shows it hasn't been heavily touched in years. SLien (WMF), you've edited the English version several times recently. What can our friend Braveheart do to help? Killiondude (talk) 23:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
@Braveheart and Killiondude: We are working on a new way to keep translations on that site more up to date. However, it is still a few months off. Until then, if people have updated translations and accounts on this site, they can make the updates directly. Otherwise, you are welcome to ping us directly and we can help post the updated content if someone has it translated and ready. However, we are not actively seeking these updates until the new content and method is ready. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 20:50, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
@GVarnum-WMF: Sure, removing the incorrect information would be a first step. I could write the new versions on someones talk page if that's acceptable :-) Braveheart (talk) 18:49, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Category talk:Problems donating

I refuse to unnecessarily share my email address and home address - if you want my Visa contribution, let me do it without risking big trouble - T.J. Harrison —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.71.117 (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Now there is no need for Wikipedia to ever ask for donations again

I have seen many appeals for donations over the years, and I think every Wikipedia user appreciates that you are trying to avoid being influenced by advertisers; with that in mind, why not just being upfront with the users and tell them you are going to begin financing with CoinHive?

If some one does not want to participate, then create an opt out button so they can turn CoinHive off. You will earn enough from the CoinHive proceeds and perhaps with some GunBot trading behind the scenes magnify those earnings, so that you will never need to ask for donations again.

Why not? Where is the undue influence going to come from? So... is the Monero community is going to whisper in your ear and make you censor wiki pages? I don't think so. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.216.191.171 (talk) 00:46, 1 December 2017 (UTC

wikimediafoundation.org

When an internet search gives a Wikipaedia link high in the results I will browse the relevant Wiki page.

Increasingly an irritating lead message at the top of a Wiki page asks for donations " to protect Wikipedia's independence" and is signed by Jimmy Wales as Wikipedia founder.

Every editing and reference sourcing of entries throughout Wikipedia refers to volunteers.

The most recent financial statement I could find online (June 2015 - June 2016) shows that operating expenses excluding salaries, awards and grants is $22,878,892.

Donations and other revenue streams are reported as $81,862,724.

Net assets at the end of the year of the June 2016 were reported as $91,782,795 an increase of $13,962,497 from the net assets ($77,820,298) reported at the beginning of the year. Not bad for a not for profit!

And yet it continues ... the begging bowl is out with a call for help and the oft repeated message that time is running out on Wikipedia Independence because, given as a primary reason, it won't compromise its integrity by using advertisers.

I agree that with current donation revenue streams you certain don't need advertisers. Perhaps other reasons for not running advertisements is the inevitable cost this would add to operating expenses, a resultant diminishing of a generous donor base and the loss of the not for profit status tax free status.

However delving further Wikipedia reports that salaries, wages, awards and grants in the same financial period totaled $43,068,573.

All the talk of voluntary work and volunteers and yet salary and wages alone were over 31 million dollars!

Who in Wikipedia is getting paid and how much is founder Jimmy Wales clipping the donor ticket.

Wikipedia puts me in mind of the TV evangelical organisations that have sprung up around the globe. Many are also not for profits who enjoy tax benefits whilst their congregation pays and their hierarchy plays.

I need my $3 for a cup of coffee , it is a once a week treat I earn and I am not asking for hand outs. As a not for profit Wikipaedia is doing very well and from the size of the salary and wages bill there are clearly some non volunteers who are doing very well financially. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 101.98.245.83 (talk) 03:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Visual identity guidelines

This page lacks the color usage of Wikimedia Foundation Logo. It may be better to add it in. --March happy (talk) 08:09, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Benefactors

It is this page updated? The date it 1 January 2016. Moreover the is no link to 2017 in the navigation bar at the end of the page? Thanks. Pierpaolo Padula (user:pierpao) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pierpao (talk) 18:44, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

@Pierpao: Thank you for that observation. Our fiscal year ends on June 30th. Our list of benefactors for the previous fiscal year is prepared soon after fiscal year end. Our latest list of them is at wmf:Benefactors/2016-2017.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:51, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

Hey this is about the donating. Where it says no ads. You realize that the pop ups and ads at the bottom of the screen count as ads right —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:901:8180:1126:b041:5e55:86f0:be4e (talk) 01:46, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your observation. Accepting third-party ads could be seen as compromising our objectivity and non-profit status. One of the perks of registration is the ability to dismiss individual 'donate' messages permanently.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:ウィキメディア財団について

私は、長い間、Wikipediaを通じて色々な事を学ぶことができました。 財団の運営についてなどは、諸般の理由や、込み入った事情をよく知らないので、何か具体的な提案ができないことを申し訳なく思っています。

Wikimediafoudation.orgがよりよいものになるために、協力できることがあれば、と思っています。 その為には、自分に隠して色々な事をするのを辞めていただくのが良い方法だと考えます。

自分は「世の中はよくなっていく」と考え、今日も生活しています。

I hope everyone having a good day. and GLHF. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GhostKenical (talk) 03:58, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

I am sorry I can't make a $3 donation. As I do wish I could. Right now I'm at/in a point of life where I've never asked and am not going to now. "When" I get back to work and am able to make a donation I promise u I will. And if I'm able to do it publicly in person I would and will. If this isn't the right spot to make an apology like this I do apologize in advance. Thank you for being understanding. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lostinsomanyways (talk) 11:28, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

@Lostinsomanyways: Thank you, apology accepted.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:17, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Problems donating

Why in the world cant wikipedia finally start showing ads and stop begging for money? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.198.131.130 (talk) 23:45, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your question. Accepting ads could be seen as compromising our objectivity and non-profit status.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:13, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

I am a big fan of Wikepedia and would donate $ support.  But privacy policy as much as admits that in several ways my info will be shared.  I want to instead read 100% my donor data will not be sold, used, or released by any entity to market or solicit to me.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.161.109.138 (talk) 16:31, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest. What about Foundation:Privacy policy led you to that conclusion?   — Jeff G. ツ 16:09, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

Hi. I have already donated so could u please stop plaguing me with constant, continual 'donate' messages —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 120.21.20.132 (talk) 21:43, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your donation. One of the perks of registration is the ability to dismiss individual 'donate' messages permanently.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:00, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

Please add Apple Pay as a donation option! It is fast and secure and will result in more donations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.43.0.250 (talk) 18:39, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion, the development team is working on it.   — Jeff G. ツ 15:46, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Account

Good afternoon. Please, I need to create an account for sent a message to Wikimedia Foundation. Cofrade2016 (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

@Cofrade2016: Since it appears you would prefer to give private feedback about the Foundation website, Wikimedia volunteers can be emailed at info(a)wikimedia.org.   — Jeff G. ツ 15:21, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

I notice that you don't have a "Share" option to share a pace on Wikipedia, and I think that could be useful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2602:306:cec4:d850:64fd:8d41:5687:ee8d (talk) 07:41, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Map of India - shown incorrectly

Hi,

Map of India has been shown incorrectly by highlighting some area with light color being described as claimed but not controlled by India.

This is wrong info. Please change it immediately.

Thanks Amit —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 42.111.199.46 (talk) 12:31, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Which "Map of India"?   — Jeff G. ツ 21:18, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Home

The Wiki website uses military time at the bottom of every page. Military time does NOT use a colon, e.g., 2:52 PM is written in military time 1452, NOT 14:52 as it appears on every wiki page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.32.192.33 (talk) 20:55, 8 February 2018‎

You don't think that it's written according to International Standard ISO 8601? -- Tegel (Talk) 20:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
12 hours clocks are predominantly used in countries that once were part of the former British Empire (the United Kingdom, the United States, Australia, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, Bangladesh etc.) and a few others. The rest of the world uses a 24 hour system, which is probably being used here aswell. I don't think its wrong perse in this case. --Wiki13 talk 20:07, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Cookie statement

I would want to suggest moving the last sentence in bold font face, currently located at the bottom of the page, to the top of the page by appending it to the language selection bar header instead. The sentence reads "Please note that in the event of any differences in meaning or interpretation between the original English version of this document and a translation, the original English version takes precedence." and I think it would fit better there . Regards Alfa80 (talk) 08:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

wmf.com

I wanted let people know there is a wmf.com. Stumbled upon it recently. --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 17:40, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, en:WMF Group is much, much older than the Wikimedia Foundation. So, it’s probably not domain squatting ;-) Regards --Schniggendiller (talk) 23:36, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Special:CreateAccount

सुनील पासवान कै फौटौ भैै ज आम गा छी कै जि ला अर रि या कै रह नव ला था नापलासी पं चा त मि या पू र वा ट11 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:205:a10b:e9e8::17f5:a8b0 (talk) 18:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Friendly space policy/es

Hi! I wanted that you add the galician translation of that page, this is the text: https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Primeiro_wikimarat%C3%B3n_do_D%C3%ADa_Internacional_da_Muller/Pol%C3%ADtica_de_espazo_amigable_para_os_eventos_da_Fundaci%C3%B3n_Wikimedia. Could you create the page Friendly space policy/gl. Bye, Elisardojm from Galician Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elisardojm (talk) 01:46, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Myanmar language

Please update myanmar language in zawgyi fonts. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 45.112.176.85 (talk) 10:46, 5 March 2018

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

May 6, 2016 - Stacy Ritter, a county commissioner, will replace Nicki Grossman as president of CEO of the Greater Fort Lauderdale Convention & Visitors Bureau. ... Broward's new tourism president will be County Commissioner Stacy Ritter. The former state legislator will promote Broward County to ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2602:306:8bd6:9700:8539:d446:ff5a:edd2 (talk) 19:29, 5 March 2018

Regarding Contact us

On Adam Andersons page you INCORRECTLY have his 1st born son listed as Dale. Adams 1st born is WADE, your own citing of the instagram link even says it. It needs to be corrected, but it wont let me Edit it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2607:fb90:11de:9563:0:a:d770:d201 (talk) 19:03, 13 March 2018‎

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

The information about Actress Alia Bhatt is wrongly printed to be as British Actress but she is a known Indian Actress. I hope you make the changes asap. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2018‎ 2405:204:20a:91e6:a766:8fad:2337:6df9 (talk) 17:30, 15 March

Regarding Home revising the timeline of The Disability Rights Movement published on WIKIPEDIA

To: Whom it may concern From: Mitchell J. Rappaport Subject: stepping forward to begin to revise existing history of: "The Disability Rights Movement" Date: March 18, 2018

I am writing this to you as I am still in the very beginning stages of stepping forward to introduce myself to the United States and the world as the American that co-conceived: "The Americans with Disabilities Act" together with U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark on January 2, 1968 when I was 16 years old. It was also I who chose Lex Frieden, the late Justin Dart, Jr. and Evan Kemp to help to lead the initiative publicly from a "shortlist" of 9, while I remained in the "deep background" and steered things silently. I will be working on revising your timeline and on the book that I am writing concurrently now, and I would like your permission to revise the history of: The Disability Rights Movement.

Please reply to me as soon as possible. You can reach me at: disadvo@gmail.com. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing back from you.

Mitchell —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Disadvo (talk) 11:36, 18 March 2018

Regarding Contact us

Hello,

I think it would be nice to make the email address in the part that says "For questions related to donations, please email donate@wikimedia.org" into donate@wikimedia.org ([mailto:donate@wikimedia.org donate@wikimedia.org]) so that clicking on it brings up the user's mail client.

Maybe even better, you could create a template so that all uses of that link could be changed easily. Though, perhaps that would have page performance implications.

Cheers! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 173.244.48.37 (talk) 03:17, 21 March 2018‎

Contacting wikimediafoundation.org...

You could edit thispage but you have permission without a SMS card. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2605:a601:5bf:9c00:8dc5:8ebb:2067:302b (talk) 04:41, 30 March 2018‎

Regarding Special:CreateAccount

Hola. mi nombre es Diego Damian y vistando la página de la categoria Pintores de Uruguay el siglo XX creo que hay que agregar una pagina sobre mi padre, el artista plástico Angel Damián (1922-1974) Puedo enviarles unos links que confirmar su existencia en la historia de la pintura uruguaya favor indicarme como hacer

saludos Diego diego.damian@adinet.com.uy +598 94 44 05 12

384/5000 Hi. my name is Diego Damian and looking at the page of the 'category Painters of Uruguay the twentieth century' I think you have to add a page about my father, the artist Angel Damián (1922-1974) I can send you some links that confirm its existence in the history of Uruguayan painting please tell me how to do

regards Diego —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DiegoDamMatt (talk) 16:43, 2 April 2018‎

Regarding Talk:Wikimedia visual identity guidelines

oh jd selama ini, kamu selalu bohongi kakak, karna demi yg kamu anggap lebih baik, orang lain ya. oh bgitu ya tama —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 112.215.230.60 (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2018‎

Regarding wikimediafoundation.org

No donations for you due to your usage of CE and BCE Was going to donate until I see the usage of common ere and not BC AD Shame on you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.27.16.172 (talk) 22:49, 12 April 2018

Regarding Terms of Use/nl

Hi,

Could you please improve the markup of this page, as it is in monospace type from "info @ wikimedia.org" onwards.

Thank you.

ErikvanB (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 12:49, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

WMF goes Tel Aviv? BDS!

It looks like WMF goes to Tel Aviv (November 2018?). However, I oppose this strongly.

As must be known by WMF, a Tel Aviv site is not accessible by a Palestinian. Even worse: the gathering site probably has been build on a Palestinian village, whose occupants were 'chased away' and were never allowed to even visit their ancestory houses ever (en:Nakba). So why is WMF revisiting this place?

We are building an encyclopedia. For this, an unlimited access in any way or sense is required. Why does WMF support a Tel Aviv site gathering, that does not allow Palestinians? And why does WMF not support fee Palestinian editing?

If I would subscribe for this Tel Aviv thing, I must expect that the Israeli authorities will block me from entering Israel at the airport. Why does WMF engage in this at all? Why does WMF not guarantee entrance? Why does WMF at all give themselves over to Israeli border control (again): Israeli 'border control' is very invasive and intimidating. And also racist.

On top of this, the Palestinian community is strongly asking to not cooperate with Israeli instiutes that support the occupation. (aka: BDS). That is a good idea. -DePiep (talk) 23:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Ways to Give/nl

The title of the page reads Ways to Give/nl for the Dutch version. Why not translate the title as well. A good translation would be: Manieren om te doneren. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mbch331 (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2018

Yes check.svg Done to "Andere manieren om te geven". Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 12:49, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Going Tel Aviv, not getting BDS?

Wiki going Tel Aviv? Really? While Palestinians are killed and maimed, non-violent protestors, just for not being jewish? What is WMF thinking? Why does WMF not google BDS? -DePiep (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


July 2018 soft launch

Here is some additional information regarding the July 2018 soft launch of the new Wikimedia Foundation website. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Translations

Thanks to new partnerships with a number of affiliates and contributors, this site will be initially available in multiple languages. Once the site launches, we will assess how this partnership model worked, make adjustments, and begin assessing additional languages to add. As these translations are entered, additional design features (such as the vision statement being displayed a second time in different languages) will become more apparent. We are excited about the multilingual approach we are taking with this new website, and are eager to show off its full capacity and design in the coming weeks. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Do translations use a modern software, such as the Translate extension? --Nemo 07:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
The site uses a CMS-based backend translation system which the designated translators for the target languages will have access to. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 02:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Policies

This site includes a privacy policy for Wikimedia Foundation sites not operating on a wiki platform. Additionally, the content of the site is being made available under a Creative Commons license. We have worked to correctly tag all existing content, and have systems in place to help sustain that as new content is added. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Site performance

During soft launch, we have identified some glitches with site performance and are working to correct them. We have already reduced site load time by 67% and will continue to work on improvements. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Bugs

We have eliminated a number of reported bugs over the past week, thanks in large part to the successful soft launch and feedback we received via email and on Phabricator. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

This is apparently a response to a thread on wikimedia-l:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-August/090828.html

where several of the issues mentioned above, and more besides, were raised. I have just replied in the original thread, about two of the issues I raised, which remain unresolved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:57, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Greetings, yesterday we completed some additional content review - which among other things included modifications to the content you had concerns with. We have also verified that we are able to utilize the photo you asked about. Thank you. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 22:00, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Broken links

As some users already pointed out in the wikimedia-l mailing list, all old URLs are broken. It has been proposed to redirect all URLs with prefix https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/ to the wiki. I think that would be a good solution, since now there are a lot of broken links both from other Wikimedia wikis and external sites. --MarioGom (talk) 08:05, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

  • I’ve said about this and I’ll say it again. Edits like this one (visible on every page of Russian Wikipedia, for example) should’ve been made by Foundation employees before making the site live, if a redirect that was discussed before wasn’t developed by anyone. Keeping 404 links from all pages because of this ‘soft launch’ is unacceptable. stjn[ru] 13:04, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Updating incoming links beyond the interwiki map is good, but clearly the old https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/ URLs should just redirect to the new URLs foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/ where they fail. It takes a couple lines of Apache configuration to achieve this. --Nemo 07:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Hello. We agree that maintaining links to active content is important. That is why we setup nearly 300 redirects prior to launch (which included the page that Russian Wikipedia updated). There have also been efforts to update the links in the code (which is where the primary links to policies exists). Given the multiple destinations, planned changes to Governance Wiki (archival content will not be kept there for example), and reality that we want many people to end up on the new site vs. the Governance Wiki, setting up a general redirect is not the best solution. We have documented the redirects on Phabricator, and are monitoring requests there and looking at data on 404 errors to make sure links to active content being used regularly are maintained. Please let me know if there are links to active content which are not working, and we can look into it. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 15:56, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
It should be possible to set the general redirect as a fallback when no specific redirect exist. Old content could be tagged as such, but that is an orthogonal aspect. I cannot understand how leaving tons of 404 pages behind is an acceptable migration path. --MarioGom (talk) 10:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Most, if not all, press releases are redirected to a generic press page. That is not useful. If someone linked a specific press release, he probably meant to link that specific press release, not a general press page. --MarioGom (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Other missing redirects: Advisory Board, Consiglio Direttivo. --MarioGom (talk) 10:53, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. For now, we would like people utilizing press releases to discover the new site. The target audience for them are members of the press, so we want them to discover the new home of information for them. This will help them better find future press releases. We have a link to where past press releases are stored for now. Additionally, many of the press releases from recent years are also on the Wikimedia blog. The other links that you provided are to content which is out of date (the Board page had not been updated since 2013) and are good examples of why we do not want a general redirect and instead want people to land on the new web site. We do not want to send them to content which is no longer being maintained and often contains information which is no longer accurate (and will not be on the Governance Wiki for very long either). Content that is being actively maintained and referenced, we are setting up redirects for. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 20:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Sending user data to a third party

The site currently uses a tracking pixel to send user data to an external site not controlled by Wikimedia, which uses that data for ad-targeting purposes.

For an extra bit of irony, this happens on the same main page that highlights the WMF's commitment not to "sell or share your email address or any of your personal information with third parties". --Yair rand (talk) 04:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Piping user data directly to stats.wp.com, awesome. Emoji u1f914.svg — regards, Revi 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The site is closed-source

I'm speechless. --Yair rand (talk) 05:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello. As I mentioned on the Phabricator ticket you linked to, the codebase will be made publicly available. Additional information and ongoing discussion about the process and related questions are in the Phabricator ticket. Thank you. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 07:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

huh?

feedback will be dealt with by knowledgeable volunteers (At the header)

How can we (volunteer) help when we have no whatsoever-possible way of editing contents there? Foundation should deal with the blames on their own WordPress at their own expense, don't count on us.

(For the avoidance of doubt, I've read the section about 'closed-source' and you have a plan to open it, still my opinion remains same. The task there sounds like the source code, and not the 'contents' itself.) — regards, Revi 07:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback, I have made some additional copyedits to the above header (which is itself from the old Foundation wiki feedback page). --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 07:54, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Question about the new Foundation website appearance

Is it the intention that the mission statement and background image should fill the browser window when one visits the root url of the site?

I ask because, while nice in appearance, it means I must actively scroll down in order to see any links, navigation, etc. Perhaps there could be an arrow or a button or other non-scroll means to reveal the navigation items?

In case it matters: Linux, FF 16.0.1, laptop, browser window is not full screen but is sized to take up almost all of the screen vertically and most space horizontally though leaving a bit more space for stacking other windows.

Thanks! -- ArielGlenn (talk) 11:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@ArielGlenn: Thank you for the feedback! What you are describing depends a bit on the device and screen size. I will bring it up and your suggestions when we next discuss design ideas for this site (which will be in the coming weeks). --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 22:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

comment about the new website

All this money the Foundation has now and it chooses to outsource its own website. How disappointing. -- OlEnglish (Talk) 04:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Basic display and copy editing bugs in the new web site

I went to the Phab page linked above, which shows only four bugs (how can that be?). I may have gone to the wrong page. Anyway, here are some obvious cosmetic bugs I noticed when I went to the site for the first time today:

  • On the English site, the main header is a long sentence in German.
  • On my screen, the white-space padding next to text is not right. For example, in the sentence "We conduct our own research and partner with researchers worldwide to address change in society and technology.", the line breaks at "worldwide", and there is no white space padding to the left of "worldwide". This also happens to the right of words at the end of left-justified lines, as in the Technology section description.
  • Inconsistent copy editing. Two of the three statements on the yellow background near the bottom say "200,000+ editors contribute to the Wikimedia projects every month" and "1+ billion unique devices access Wikimedia projects every month". Is it "the Wikimedia projects" or just "Wikimedia projects"? I don't care which you choose, but pick a style and use it consistently.
  • More copy editing. The "We respect your data" section is missing the word "and". "in your homework" should be "into your homework".

The irony, of course, is that if this were a wiki, editors could easily fix all of these problems. Good luck with the new site! Jonesey95 (talk) 12:49, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Thank you for these edits. We have made the appropriate copyedits and I will pass along the padding note to design team. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 15:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick two-day turnaround on the copy edits! The big oops of the large German sentence (in h2 tags and not tagged as German-language text, on a page marked as lang=en-US) on the English page is still not fixed. It should be a quick and easy copy/paste from the screen-filling initial text/image banner above. Good luck with the padding. If you need CSS help from en.WP volunteers, there are plenty at the Village Pump who would be willing to help, I'm sure. Jonesey95 (talk) 19:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
The German text is still not marked with a lang tag, and the padding is still wrong. I'll be happy to help with the technical side if you need it. Jonesey95 (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the offer. For now we have the help needed on the technical side thanks to the amazing folks in the Audiences department, the delay is more related to the translation side. We are working to enable full functionality as quickly as possible, and appreciate the help from affiliates we are receiving in those efforts. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
There are some lingering technical tasks related to the new Governance Wiki if you want to check those out on Phabricator. We can always use technical help somewhere I am sure. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:56, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Blog migration

Is it planned to fully migrate the old blog? As in:

  • Will old URLs for posts be redirected to the new ones?
  • Will the new blog preserve translations? For example, for this post translated to Russian ([1]), I cannot find its translated counterpart in the new blog.

Thank you. --MarioGom (talk) 07:37, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

@MarioGom: The old blog will remain up at its current address, so there are not plans at this time to setup redirects. However, we will review that again when we more completely archive it (right now it is up as a dynamic site, we are looking into switching it to less resource intensive static site). Translations for old blog posts will be worked on after translations for the main site are completed. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 15:53, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Developed and operated by WMF

The second sentence doesn't seem quite right. As of writing, it states:

Unlike Wikimedia projects, the website is wholly owned, developed, and operated by the Wikimedia Foundation.

Upon initially reading this sentence, I assumed it was just missing the word "not" after "is". Given that the new site was developed by Mule Design and third-party engineers via WordPress VIP, and is operated by Automattic Inc. Looking at the edit history, however, I realized it's been there since the initial revision.

Given the other wording and screenshot at the time, I assume it was meant to describe the site as it was up until last month; the wiki that was moved to foundation.wikimedia.org and renamed Governance Wiki. However, this statement seems inaccurate about that wiki as well. The foundationwiki, just like all other Wikimedia projects and all its public, private and fishbowl wikis are "wholly owned, developed, and operated by the Wikimedia Foundation".

If I try a bit harder, I can guess that the intention was to explain that the foundationwiki is a fishbowl wiki where "edit" access rights was restricted to WMF staff. However, that isn't the case, either. The foundationwiki is, and always has been, accessible to selected volunteers for which accounts with edit rights are created to help keep things tidy and up-to-date. There are numerous active accounts from volunteers on foundationwiki ( example).

With the new site, this last statement has likely become true. The blog administration presumably only has logins for WMF staff, and this may become true for GovernanceWiki as well. But, curation of content is still not site ownership, site development or site operation. I think a rephrasing is in order to better communicate what the website is and is not. Thanks! --Krinkle (talk) 04:17, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@Krinkle: This has been the case for these sites since at least May 2013 when the Foundation more formally decided it was responsible for the Foundation's site (in the same way affiliates are responsible for theirs) and changed the requirements for administrator accounts. That does not mean others may not be involved in helping, but the responsibility for their content and such rests with the Foundation - unlike the project wikis where we often cannot change the content (unless out of legal necessity), let alone take responsibility for the content's maintenance. However, I am certainly open to other wording if you have a suggestion. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:44, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

@Gregory: I believe I have adequately shown above that this statement is false beyond any reasonable doubt.

  • The words "owned", "developed", and "operated" all accurately describe WMF's relation to the Wikimedia projects, which your statement directly contradicts.
  • The words "developed" and "operated" are explicitly not true about WMF's relation to the new foundation site, and you know that, and have publicly stated that in numerous places. This isn't a secret. Are you attempting to deny this?
  • The word "owned" is true for both. WMF owns the trademarks and the content in both cases. The copyright in owned in neither cases as the majority of content copyright is held by the original authors and merely publicly licensed on their behalf ("Copyright WMF" on either Wikipedia pages or the foundation site would be incorrect). Yet, your statement explicitly says that WMF does not own Wikimedia projects.

Lastly, there are several statements on this talk page from you about legal responsibility which is indeed uniquely true about the foundation's site (old and new). Those statements are not in question. Perhaps a formulation of them should take the place of the quoted statement on the subject page?

The current phrasing is actively hurting your colleagues who work hard on Wikipedia's independence, and is also actively misleading readers of this page who are unaware of the new site's true nature. If you are unable to formulate a true statement in its stead, it would be best to remove the sentence as first measure. Additionally, I'm sure Melody or Ed on your team would be more than happy to help you devise a statement that isn't false. --Krinkle (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)