Grants talk:PEG/WIkimedia User Group Nigeria/Wiki Photo Tours

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GAC members votes[edit]

GAC members who support this request[edit]

  1. --DerekvG (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
  2. --Violetova (talk) 08:37, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
  3. Polimerek (talk) 23:23, 15 February 2016 (UTC) (although I am still not sure if the budget is still precise enough for WMF)

GAC members who support this request with adjustments[edit]

  1. The project and its idea is very enthusiastic and inspiriting. In case of success it can be model project for other African communities. So I support this project, but I think organizers need to give more detailed info on how much they plan to spend on hotel, food and etc. How they plan to travel (by bus, car or train) and how much it will cost. So they need to rewrite budget.--Wertuose (talk) 14:44, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done per your recommendations. As per the budget, we provided shared accommodation for each team. Since each team members were recruited from the region they are to cover. The remaining balance from their budget are bundles for food and local travels. Thanks you so much. We appreciate your brilliant recommendations. Warm regards. Wikicology (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

GAC members who oppose this request[edit]

GAC members who abstain from voting/comment[edit]

GAC comments[edit]

Great project and seems to be relatively cheap if the goal is achieved. Anyway - would be good to have more detailed and realistic budget. How do you want to organize the 100 trips? (10 x 10) ? Is there going to be a coordinator? List of objects to be photographed? How long are they about to take? Just one day trips or weekend ones? When do you want to start and end the project? Polimerek (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Polimerek for this extremely useful comment and questions. We wish to state here that your questions are helpful because we unintentionally omitted a state in the former budget. Your questions opened our eyes to see this omission. The former budget only cater for five (5) states. We have adjusted our budget accordingly. If you could recall from the proposal we are planning to visit the southwestern Nigeria which consist of six (6) states including Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ondo and Ekiti state.

However, we answered your questions below:

  • Would be good to have more detailed and realistic budget.
Thank you, we had used a table that clarify the budget.
  • How do you want to organize the 100 trips? (10 x 10) ?'
We are not embarking on 100 trips but 10 trips per team. Our volunteers are divided into six (6) teams and each state will be anchored by one team consisting of 2 members, a professional photographer and a coordinator who is an experienced Wikimedian. In total we will have six teams for the six states. We plan to embark on each journey over the Weekend because this is when our volunteer photographers can engaged in volunteering activities. Each team will travel 4 times in a month since there are approximately 4 weeks in a month. Thus, each team will travel 10 times in two and a half months.

Therefore, 10 journey per team of two members (an experienced photographer and a coordinator)

  • Is there going to be a coordinator?
Yes, there is going to be a coordinator. Each team will consist of a professional photographer and a coordinator.
  • List of objects to be photographed?
The lists of objects to be photographed are listed in our proposal. For example, an historic building that was the first administrative office in Nigeria built in 1863. This building is located in Badagry, Lagos State. We also have Madam Tinubu Shrine, Osuuru water spring in Ogun State, the Palace of Soun Ogbomoso in Osun State which housed the oldest living animal in the world are typical examples of what we intend to cover [1]. We will take the image of this animal (tortoise) and this will remain one of the 200 articles we intend to create.
  • How long are they about to take? Just one day trips or weekend ones?
We will embark on each journey over the Weekend because this is when our volunteer photographers can engaged in volunteering activities.
  • When do you want to start and end the project?
We plan to start the project on 25 March 2016 and end it on 24 July 2016.

Please let us know, if you required further clarification and thanks for your brilliant questions. Warm regards. Wikicology (talk) 09:22, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Thnak you for clarification, it is very helpful, but there are still some questions regarding budget. Polimerek (talk) 12:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

About budget[edit]

Budget is still unclear. Please indicate number of days and teams, number of participants in each team, costs per each person and show total costs. We need to know how you come to grand total of 5.000 USD.--Wertuose (talk) 07:35, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Many thanks. Wikicology (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Not really, I still second Wertouse to clarify the budget - We now know that there are to be 6 teams each of them performing 10 journeys. I guess from your previous answer that it is altogether 60 journeys 2/3 days long, 2 people for each journey. So there will be 60 x 2 travels + 60 x 2 x 2 or 3 booking of rooms in hotels. There is still a question what kind of hotels and what kinds of travels (by bus, by train, by own car? ). Polimerek (talk) 12:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done.@Polimerek and Wertuose: I agree that the previous form of the budget seemed unclear after a closer look. However, it has been clarified now. Thanks for being patient with us. Warm regards. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Community comments[edit]

The funding for this project should be put on hold until Olaniyan Olushola's Wikimedia Commons uploads have been scrutinized for further copyright violations. He has not corrected all his problematic files despite receiving repeated notices of copyright problems.

  • File:Ram to be slaughter for the Celebration of Ileya Festiva by Muslims.jpg
  • File:Cashless policy2.jpg
  • File:Cashless policy1.jpg
  • File:Jigi Bolav2.jpg
  • File:Enyimba-logo.png

He uploaded this which already appeared in this story. His continual flouting of copyright restrictions, in spite of repeated warnings, is a glaring red flag. Page Planet (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

WMF Comments[edit]

Hi Olaniyan Olushola, thank you for the effort you have put into developing this request and responding to questions on the discussion page. This is a unique approach to working with professional photographers to fill content gaps with quality images, and the plan to pair photographers with experienced Wikipedians sounds like a great way to benefit from the specialized skills of all participants. It will be interesting to see other ways that your community may benefit from pairing experienced editors and new contributors. That said, we are concerned about the size of this project. When trying out a new idea like this one, it is a good idea to run a pilot version of the project so that you can learn what works well and what needs to change before investing a lot of volunteer time or financial resources to a project. Below are suggestions for planning the pilot:

  • The current plan requires a rather significant time commitment from participants, who would have to travel most weekends for 4 months. For the pilot project, we recommend that you work with a smaller number of teams and have them complete no more than one trip per month.
Now we are working with two teams, and 2 trips per month for 3 month per your recommendation
  • The pilot should focus on high priority topics and/or regions. Do you have a system to prioritize regions, or lists of images that are needed from each region?
Yes, the pilot will focus on high priority topics and/or regions we already have a list of images that are needed from each state/region
  • What is your plan for getting people to add the images to articles or write new articles?
We are making use of members of the community. On the weekends when people are not traveling, the participants and the user group will work on uploading the images, adding them to articles and creating new articles. We have decided to use 10 community members that based in Lagos for the uploading. However, volunteers can work for 5 hours per day but based on our past experience, an average Nigerian Wikimedian/Volunteer can only upload a maximum of 50 high quality images per day/session. This is due to several factors including poor internet connection service in Nigeria. With 10 Wikimedians/Volunteers we can upload 500 - 600 images per day.
  • Have you identified which Wikimedians from your community will participate as coordinators?
Yes, User:Wikicology and User:Olaniyan Olushola will participate as coordinators
  • Please take a look at the report from WM CZ on Mediagrant II for ideas on how to use maps, topics lists and reimbursement systems to support photography projects like this.
Thanks for pointing us to this. We will certainly find it useful in our pilot
  • Keep in mind that other communities who have worked with professional photographers have learned that it is important to ensure that the photographers are aware that they will need to release images under free license.
Yes, our volunteer photographers are aware that the images will be released under free license

Again, this sounds like a very interesting plan and we look forward to seeing how it works in your community. The pilot phase of the project will be a great opportunity to develop systems to plan trips, track coverage of priority images and work out systems for reimbursement so that your community can work effectively with the large number of photographers who have expressed interest in participating in Wiki Photo Tours. Please let us know if you have questions or need clarification about our comments. Cheers, --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 19:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Kacie. The community also expresses their thanks to the GAC members who participated in the discussions that brought about improvement to this proposal. Warm regards. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 22:12, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Funding decision[edit]

Hi Olaniyan Olushola, The revisions you have made to the program plan look great - we are pleased to approve funding to pilot Wiki Photo Tours in Nigeria. Cheers, --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Update on Wikipedia 15 in Nigeria[edit]

Dear all, We are happy to inform you that we had a successful celebration of Wikipedia @ 15 in Nigeria as planned.

See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_15_in_Nigeria

It was celebrated at Fountain University and in attendance was the Vice Chancellor of the University and the event was attended by over 50 people. The VC in his speech said " It is a great honor to join the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria to celebrate Wikipedia @ 15 in Nigeria. I've always wanted to know how contents get to this amazing encyclopedia founded by Jimmy Wales in 2001 and considering the role of this incredible resource in academics, my institution is more than ready to collaborate with the affiliate in Nigeria to build the world largest encyclopedia in human history, to the best of my knowledge." The first workshop was held on 16 January 2015 as planned and students were trained on how to contribute to the encyclopedia. 30 students were nominated to participate in the workshop by the University but only 24 student attended the workshop. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Workshop_for_Students_of_Fountain_University

After the first workshop, an adoption program was setup to mentor them. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikicology/Adopt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Olaniyan_Olushola/Adopt. This program will continues for at least 60 days. When they were asked to share their experience before the second workshop, the students said "editing Wikipedia is fun! Though our exams is fast approaching but we will continue to make significant contributions prior to and after our exams". We understand that students preparation for exams is likely to reduce the rate at which they will edit Wikipedia but some of them are really doing fine.

See for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jaybakky and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Amunique

Our major challenge is that the students edit using the university internet service and the proxy is an open proxy and almost all the students are affected by a range block as a result of using an open proxy. Today, we requested for the proxy address which will be sent to a checkuser for unblock request. The second workshop was held today, 28 January 2016 and also marked the commencement our article writing contest titled "Wiki Loves Nigeria Writing Contest"

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wiki_Loves_Nigeria/Writing_Contest

This contest starts today and will close by 28 February 2016. Warm regards, Wikicology (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Request for a change to the completion date and start date for our grant[edit]

We are requesting an extension of the project completion date for WIkimedia User Group Nigeria "WIkimedia User Group Nigeria/Wiki Photo"

  1. The new proposed completion date will be 30 September 2016, and the corrected start date will be 25 March 2016.
  2. We require an extension because we experienced many occurrences that were not envisaged as at the time of the planning of the proposal which led to the group in ability to work within our schedule. Some of these happenings include :
  • Non availability of Photographers for some of our schedule trips.
  • Disturbances by land owners that most times challenges our authority to snap structures in their domain
  • Since majority of us are volunteers we could not secure majority participation during our photographic uploading session.

All the above mentioned challenges had to make us to change date on our plan and hence affected our deliverables. We request that WMF also adjust the reporting schedule for our grant so that we have enough time to finish our final report. SincerelyOlaniyan Olushola (talk) 20:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Olaniyan Olushola. Thank you for this detailed update. The new report due date is approved as 30 September 2016. Please remember to post extension requests before your grant end date in the future. Best, Alex Wang (WMF) (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Request for additional extension to the completion date and start date for our grant[edit]

We are requesting additional extension of the project completion date for Wikimedia User Group Nigeria(WUGN) "WIkimedia User Group Nigeria/Wiki Photo"

  1. The new proposed completion date will be 30 October 2016, and the corrected start date will be 25 March 2016.
  2. We require additional extension in order to fully discharge our obligation on Wikiphoto because WUGN did not envisage shortage of volunteers during the period. This is largely due to increase Wikimedia activities especially with traveling for the Wiki Loves Monuments 2016, series of meeting with content partners and preparation for many of our outreach programs such as launching of "SHE CAN with ICT" in Lagos and Wiki Loves Women event in Abuja which are stated for the month of September.

This shift is inevitable because WUGN is largely supported by volunteers, therefore its usually difficult to compel volunteers in meeting certain deadline. However, by the mid of October we would have completed some of the earlier mentioned event. Then we can channel our limited resources toward the completion of the project. We appreciate your understanding in this regards.Thanks. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 06:39, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Olaniyan Olushola. Thank you for this detailed update. The new report due date will be October 30th. Alex Wang (WMF) (talk) 03:50, 29 September 2016 (UTC)