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Follow-up questions on your application

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Latest comment: 2 months ago5 comments3 people in discussion

Hello @Hurohukidaikon,

Thank you for your application. Your application is being reviewed by the ESEAP Regional Funds Committee and Programme Officer. Here are some questions/comments that may require more information.

Thank you for taking a moment to respond.

Regards, Jacqueline

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1) We have funded many rapid projects from Japan. Here are some examples:

How is your project approach similar or different to these projects in terms of approach? What areas of innovation can we learn from your project? And how will your project contribute to building a thriving community of volunteers or contributors to the wikimedia movement in Japan?


2) Comparing the metrics across projects above, our sense is the target contribution for your project could be higher. Could you review and propose new contribution targets?


3) There has been a recent interest within the Wikimedia Community in Japan about suggestions related to guidelines and consistency across projects related to compensation for well-defined roles that do not replace volunteer activities, including (but not limited to) graphic design, training, childcare services, translation, project management, and Wikimedian-in-Residence roles. Apart from the billable hours to the project that you have captured in your budget, what other in-kind contribution are you providing/ offering? JChen (WMF) (talk) 06:21, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello @JChen (WMF)
Thank you for your questions.
We need to consider about them to answer, so please give us few days.
Thank you for your understanding. Hurohukidaikon (talk) 12:10, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hello @JChen (WMF),
Sorry my late reply. These are the answers for your questions. If you have any additional questions, please let me know feel free.
Thanks.

Smilar points
  • Editing about a theme related in specific location.
  • Main participants are living in the target location.
  • Aiming to make participants' interesting for their living location.

Different points
  • location selection is based on "Japan Heritage" area, not in advanced specific location first.
  • We hope to get hints for regional promotion in Japan through the events.

Innovation
We think we can use the hints getting through our events for regional promotion not only in Wikimedia project but also the outer of them.
In particular, we can suggest any plans using Wikimedia project to local governments, or advice about visitors and immigrants enhancement based on our project.

Contribution for community
Because 104 of the Japan Heritages was certified by Japanese government at the time of October 2024, anyone can hold similar events in those many place in Japan.
It can digging "Potential Wikipedian" who researching their own living location independently.
And it will enrich amount and quality of articles about underrated local histories or cultures.
Not only that, it can make opportunities to discus about sustainability of small local cities in Japan.

New contribution targets
We change the target for uploading resources in Wikimedia Commons from 20 photos to 40 photos.
And we think improving article's quality is more important than increasing it's amount.
So we set two complementary targets about numbers of adding characters and references bellow.
  • Adding characters: total 30000 characters (3000 characters per article)
  • Adding references: total 50 references (5 references per article)
We will use these metics getting from Outreach Dashboard.

Not billable contribution
  • We spending our time and money out of budget like bellow: meeting, demonstrating, on-site inspection, research and collecting resources, event planning, writing documents, writing reports, event promotions.
  • And we also spending time for answering like this questions.
Hurohukidaikon (talk) 22:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC)Reply


  • @Hurohukidaikonさん、こんにちは。石川県における映像ワークショップ合同会社の取り組みはいつも好ましく拝見しています。こちらの提案はその流れを汲む取り組みとお見受けしました。勘違いでしたら、すみません。

申請書では明言がなくわかりにくいのですが、経費説明では「エディタソン」の経費として３回分の予算が計上されていますので、つまりウィキペディアタウンのイベントの経費なのかと思い、その前提でお尋ねします。項目は3エディタソンとなっていますが、実質2回のエディタソンの経費として計上されていて、助成金総額の半分以上が時給6,100円×65時間（総額396,500円）の人件費となっていますが、この時間給の設定は日本のベンチマークとしてはいささか高額に思われます。これらの受取人は、具体的にどちらの方々なのでしょうか？　

エディタソンを外部に業務委託するということであれば、それがウィキメディア財団の公式な取り組みならわかりますが、個人のウィキペディアンが助成金で行うことは違和感があり、外部委託しなければならないほどの規模の取り組みなのか説明が必要だと思います。

前述のジャクリーンさんの質問へのご回答内容は、現在日本全国で多くの団体や個人によって一般的に行われているウィキペディアタウンの規模や影響と差別化される部分が無いように思います。決してご提案を軽んじるつもりはないので、失礼な言い方に思われましたら申し訳ありません。

もし、こちらの人件費が、申請者とそのチームの人件費として計上されているのであれば、エディタソンでWikipedia編集を指導する講師やテーブルファシリテーターにウィキメディア助成金で報酬を設定することは、迅速助成基金の対象外と思われ、また、日本のベンチマークでも容認されているとはいえません。ウィキペディア日本語版のこちらの井戸端[1]における議論もご参照ください。

以上、日本のごく平均的なウィキペディアタウンの規模であれば、あまり妥当ではない人件費が設定されていますので、企画の詳細（活動予定地域外への影響や貢献など、平均的なウィキペディアタウンの規模では得られない派生効果の見込み）についても、もう少し説明（または予算案の再検討）が必要かと思います。--漱石の猫 (talk) 20:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

参考資料として、日本国内のウィキペディアタウンの記録はこちらなどがあります。
・全国各地のエディタソン記録（～2022の比較的詳細な主催者の開催ノウハウの共有）
・プロジェクト:アウトリーチ/ウィキペディアタウン/アーカイブ
・日本遺産地域でのウィキペディアタウン開催記録日本語英語
・2024年に地域で3回のウィキペディアタウンを実施し、「良質な記事[2]」も立項する水準の成果をあげている島根県・知夫里島の例[3][4][5]。この企画では地域外のウィキペディア講師はオンライン１回・現地参加１回のみで人件費は支給無し。参加者はベトナムに移住後も現地で活動を続けるなど波及効果も高いです。--漱石の猫 (talk) 05:48, 30 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Your application has been approved

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Latest comment: 2 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello @Hurohukidaikon,


Thank you for your application and for taking time to respond with additional information. Congratulations, your application has been approved in the amount of JPY 300,000 from 20 April 2025 to 31 January 2026.

  • Please add a revised tab in your budget sheet to match the approved amount and provide an update when this is completed.
  • From the review process, the common observation among the reviewers were that the project can have higher target metrics and more efficient budget costings. Hence, the approved budget has been adjusted. We also thank you for taking into account our suggestion to increase the project's contribution targets.


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We thank you for your participation in the grant application process and hope to continue to journey with you as you embark on this project. Good luck!

Regards, Jacqueline on behalf of the ESEAP Funds Committee JChen (WMF) (talk) 03:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Follow-up conversation

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Latest comment: 15 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello @Hurohukidaikon,

Thank you for taking time to join a conversation on 19 May.

We are confirming that there is no change to the funding outcomes that has been approved.

During our call, we discussed about your proposed payment standards and understand that the time contribution to the project is likely much higher.

For purposes of learning, we agreed that you will document the time spent on the project in your final report so that we can understand the hours that you have contributed to the project. This will also help the Regional Funds Committee understand the total time commitment to conceptualise -> implement and report on a project.

For future applications, we also hope you can consider focusing on community building in addition to outreach and awareness building.

Thank you once again for your efforts and contribution to the Wikimedia movement.

Regards, Jacqueline JChen (WMF) (talk) 02:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

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