Grants talk:Project/Rapid/GR-WCSA/4Gym Agios Dimitrios

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Hello, Ενσυναίσθηση! Thank you for this WMF Rapid Grant request. We had some recommendations and questions before moving forward with a deicision:

  1. We will not fund the t-shirts for the student participants. More expensive items like shirts are generally reserved as special thank you gifts for project organizers or as prizes for contests. We can send you some stickers and pins for the students if you make a request here. You don't have to budget for it as part of your grant.
  2. Funds for the photowalk are included in your budget but this is not mentioned elsewhere in the grant application. Can you explain how this photowalk is related to your project and what outcomes you expect?

Thank you for your responses! Winifred Olliff (WMF Program Officer) talk 00:39, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Comment: Winifred Olliff I am surprised to learn that the WMF does not fund T-shirts for student participants; when did the WMF's policy to including Wikipedia-branded merchandise in a grant proposal change? Two random examples of where the WMF supplied individual editors (i.e. not prizes or project organizers) on a funded program with T-shirts can be seen here and here. I am quite certain that if I had more time I would easily locate more. Awarding a T-shirt to a teenage student makes much more of an impact as a reward of their accomplishment. Given that this is a group of 12 students - i.e. the number of T-shirts required is small - and that this school is situated in a not-fancy district (i.e. little gestures like this make a big difference), I believe the value added would be much greater than the cost incurred. That said, I too am anxious to learn more about the photowalk and its outcomes. Finally, the "T-shirt as a prize" rationale reminded me of an edit I meant to make months ago and totally forgot... thanks for reminding me:)--Saintfevrier (talk) 11:21, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Saintfevrier, thanks for that additional perspective. We didn't state this was a change in WMF policy about funding tshirts, and it isn't. It is more of a general principle we think about when we make decisions about each grant application. After all, it would be cost-prohibitive to fund tshirts for all student participants in programs like this. In this case we will not fund tshirts, but we will send some less expensive items if they are requested through the SWAG page. We are still waiting on answers from the organizers about the photowalk before making a decision about that part of the grant. Best, Winifred Olliff (WMF Program Officer) talk 17:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Moving the proposal back to draft[edit]

Hello, Ενσυναίσθηση! As explained by email, I have put back the grant request to a draft status, please change the things you want to change in the budget so that it reflects your whole project as you stated in your email. You can ask for funding for all, or just part of it if you feel this is better. Make sure that the parts that you ask funding for are very related to Wikimedia (for example, if really you are looking at full funding for the trip to Rhodes, you might want to make sure that the photowalk brings more pictures than just 30? Or make sure that you work with the students work after the photowalk to add good pictures to articles?). Do not hesitate if you have questions. Best regards, Delphine (WMF) (talk) 10:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]