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<!-- Please don't translate this page with sub pages (it will render support of that menu for your language very likely unmaintainable) --> <div id="mw-edittools-charinsert" class="mw-charinsert-buttons" title="Click on the wanted special character."> <p class="mw-edittools-section" data-section-title="Standard">&nbsp; '''Insertable wiki markup''': <charinsert><nowiki>{{</nowiki>+<nowiki>}}</nowiki> </charinsert> · <charinsert><nowiki>|</nowiki></charinsert> · <charinsert>[+]</charinsert> · <charinsert>[[+]]</charinsert> · <charinsert>[[|+]]</charinsert> · <charinsert>[[Special:MyLanguage/+]]</charinsert> · <charinsert>{{ll|+}}</charinsert> · <charinsert>{{Ping|+}}</charinsert> · <charinsert>~~~~</charinsert> · <charinsert>{{subst:Test+}}</charinsert> · <charinsert>[[Category:+]]</charinsert> · <charinsert>#REDIRECT[[+]]</charinsert> · <charinsert><s>+</s></charinsert> · <charinsert><sup>+</sup></charinsert> · <charinsert><sub>+</sub></charinsert> · <charinsert><code>+</code></charinsert> · <charinsert><blockquote>+</blockquote></charinsert> · <charinsert><ref>+</ref></charinsert> · <charinsert><nowiki><div class="references-small"></nowiki></charinsert> · <charinsert><references/></charinsert> · <charinsert><nowiki><!-- + --></nowiki></charinsert> · <charinsert><includeonly>+</includeonly></charinsert> · <charinsert><noinclude>+</noinclude></charinsert> · <charinsert><nowiki><syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"></nowiki>+</syntaxhighlight></charinsert> · <charinsert>&lt;nowiki>+</nowiki></charinsert>&nbsp;<charinsert><code><nowiki>&lt;nowiki>+&lt;/nowiki></code></nowiki></charinsert> · ([[Help:Template|template help]])<br /> '''Translations''': <charinsert>&lt;translate>+&lt;/translate></charinsert> · <charinsert><languages/></charinsert> · <charinsert>{{#translation:}}</charinsert> · <charinsert>{{#if:{{#translation:}}|[[Category:{{subst:PAGENAME}}/Translations|{{#translation:}}]]}}</charinsert> · <charinsert><nowiki>&lt;tvar name="1">+&lt;/tvar></nowiki></charinsert> · </p> </div>

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see MediaZilla:04100 – Make CharInsert available on Special:Upload and w:en:MediaWiki:Edittools regards Gangleri | Th | T 09:45, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

To save other folks the trouble, it seems that to get the charinsert javascript for special characters below the exit box as at Wikipedia, setting this Edittools is a key part but not enough. The message isn't read by MediaWiki 1.53. However, the above referenced bug report shows that the necessary changes are in the CVS version of MediaWiki so should hit the real world some time in the future. --Kingboyk 00:53, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fix nowiki code button, seperate from arrow[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please change this line: 

<charinsert><nowiki>+</nowiki></charinsert> <charinsert><code><nowiki>+</nowiki></code> → </charinsert>  • 

to this (view source code, don't trust what it looks like) : 

<charinsert><nowiki>+</nowiki></charinsert> <charinsert><code><nowiki>+</nowiki></code></charinsert>  • 

reason: the arrow was attached to the snippet, instead of making a new charinsert for it, remove it since it is already higher up in Edittools. –Krinkletalk 02:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Hoo man (talk) 13:14, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The arrow was there deliberately, as this is a standard combination used for demonstrating what a particular wikitext produces. If there are no objections I will restore it.--Patrick (talk) 06:57, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note that you can specify the preference to underline links, to see the difference between two items separately linked and two items combinedly linked (this also applies in the page bodies).--Patrick (talk) 07:07, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please revert [1]. Custom buttons in the toolbar have been recently broken and now I can't even have my translate tags, redirect button and so on? How are we supposed to work on this wiki? --Nemo 21:04, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will notify MZ. PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm having difficulty following you. The custom toolbar and its buttons are completely unrelated to this page. The old version of this page was overly large, obnoxious, and unhelpful. I don't see a good reason to restore it. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think he's referring to the toolbar above the editbox, but rather to the edittools section (this page). For example, he added the "translate tags" he mentioned in his original post. PiRSquared17 (talk) 22:04, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure the "custom buttons in the toolbar have been recently broken" piece refers to a separate (unrelated) issue. Nemo will clarify. :-) Personally, I think we should switch to a JavaScript gadget if there are users who want this feature (I believe the CharInsert extension is mostly deprecated in favor of the editing toolbar). I think we should also look at refining what's included, if it's made opt-in. Or perhaps we can just refine it here. Hmmm, I have a thought. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I meant this. --Nemo 17:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Would a JavaScript gadget be sufficient here? --MZMcBride (talk) 20:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A gadget doing what, adding all those tags as individual buttons to both the old and new edit toolbar? --Nemo 17:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Future of this message[edit]

I think there are a few options for this message:

  1. leave it like this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Edittools&oldid=4248316
  2. leave it like this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Edittools&oldid=5491472
  3. and/or switch to an opt-in JavaScript gadget such as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-charinsert.js
  4. and/or refine the list of included markup to be more limited and easier to read/use

Thoughts? --MZMcBride (talk) 00:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Option 4 or 1 please. It's useful for tags like < translate > and others which are custom and don't show up in the edit tools above the edit box (which is also annoying to search in). Additionally (probably I'm doing something wrong?) the old ones still show up here on Meta for me (you know, those 11 buttons for bold, italics, signing etc.). --MF-W 13:01, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed implementation of option 4:

I think this is a reasonable compromise. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:01, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

pff /me created a tab "translation" at the top panel and dont cares to fancy bottom changes. I think improving top panel for self is too easy to waste a lot of time to discuss the bottom. :) --Base (talk) 04:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At least I would welcome if I wouldn't have to type <nowiki> and the like by hand. -- Rillke (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And also references (just had to do so). Oh, and redirects. And noinclude, includeonly, onlyinclude. And categories of course, so much work categorising pages for others. In short, the whole "Wiki markup" section at least? --Nemo 17:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that seems entirely reasonable. I've restored the wiki markup section: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Edittools&oldid=5525582>.
I'm going to disable the edit protected request now, as there's still a note pointing to this discussion in the message and I think we've reached a healthy compromise. But if others disagree, we can certainly continue the discussion. (I admit, I'm glad I left a pointer here, as I'd almost forgotten about this thread!) I don't want this page to seem like it's the subject to the whims of a single admin. I realize that others use this, even if I don't. I'm certainly capable of hiding this message for my personal account, but I believe that the text and disclaimers and other cruft really isn't needed for anyone. Please let me know if you disagree. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The emdash[edit]

Can we please get the emdash (i.e. the —) added to this? Thanks. Leucosticte (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Signature code in tilde form[edit]

{{editrequest}} The tilde (~~~~) tool used to sign comments should be added. I disabled the toolbar for months because I haven't used it frequently. --George Ho (talk) 20:03, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done used to sign this response. — xaosflux Talk 12:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

tvar[edit]

The syntax for the <tvar>s in the Translate extension has changed. Please change line 37 from this:

<charinsert><tvar|>+</></charinsert> ·

to this:

<charinsert>+</charinsert> ·

Thank you. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon Harald Søby: Done per special:diff/21437792  — billinghurst sDrewth 16:42, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Billinghurst: Thanks! Apparently it needs some extra syntax because of the space. Could you change it to:
<charinsert><nowiki></nowiki>+</charinsert>
Jon Harald Søby (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Sgd. —Hasley 19:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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