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#babel extension: boxes in languages that are not available (or not available yet) from translatewiki.net[edit]

Note: I'm not sure if I should really bring this here or Babel. I think I would test the proposition first (which needs a sysop). Then if I'm right, we can ask the community's approval at Babel.

A couple of different requests have come in at Talk:User language—one at #Ryu infoboxes and ruby and one at #Klingon (tlh) is broken—to fix Babel extension language boxes. See example at right. My suggestions for ryu didn't work, and I've come to realize that the reason is because ryu has not reached the threshold translation percentage necessary to allow the translations to be imported from translatewiki.net.

As a workaround, I think if we edit the local (Meta) copy of MediaWiki:Babel-3-n/ryu (and the rest), then we could make the boxes come out correctly here at Meta. There are two ways to do so:

  • Simply change the word "English" to "Okinawan"
  • Replace the text with the Okinawan version (which is available within a collapsed box back on that page)

I have the technical ability to do this, but I don't think this is within the remit of my limited administrator status. So I wonder if someone else wouldn't just test this out and see if it works—or give me explicit permission to do it myself.

Obviously, the ideal and preferred solution would be for ryu (and other languages in the same boat) to be translated sufficiently at translatewiki.net for the translations to be brought in. But absent that, perhaps we can ask the community if they would find it acceptable to allow the local translation of these boxes for this purpose.

Even in the context of the above, the question concerning a language like Klingon—which was purposefully frozen here and at translatewiki.net—is also a policy question. It's possible that this solution would be non-invasive enough to allow for Klingon as well, but it's also possible that WMF would prefer not to go there. I defer that to the judgment of others. (I have no skin in that game, by the way.) StevenJ81 (talk) 19:53, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Having received no response, I tried it. It worked, as you can see. I will go ahead and change the remaining ryu boxes in the same way. I do not plan to touch the tlh boxes at present. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:49, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Well, it is a wrong way to fix it as it fixes it just for Meta. Do search it on Phab, it is a known thing for not yet supported on TWN langs or something like that, I am sorry I did not have time to do it because of being busy with other stuff. --Base (talk) 18:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
@Base: That's not (entirely) the problem. Ryu is supported on TWN. But translatewiki:Portal:Ryu is also not quite right, for reasons I don't entirely understand. Still, even the copy that appears there—This user has ... knowledge of ʔucināguci—did not come here. And the reason it didn't is because not enough of the "core messages" group has been translated to trigger the import of messages from TWN to the Wikimedia projects.
So then you end up here with This user has ... knowledge of English, which is absurd on its face. If you want to say that the real Okinawan version shouldn't appear here until enough of the core messages are translated, I'm ok with that. but then we at least need the local copy to say This user has ... knowledge of Okinawan. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I mean it is phab:T64714 which takes about 1 min to look for at Phab :) As to how to fix that in a good way it looks there is no easy answer, as just deleting the local hack which per that task has lead to that as far as I can see (I never really read the task before) will break back the global userpages :/ --Base (talk) 22:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Well it does just fix it for Meta, but since this is a problem really just on Meta, that's not such a problem. The issue is that it fixes it only for that language and not any other languages affected. -- KTC (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Sure. But I think the only real way to fix it across the board is for us to allow that one particular series of messages to be imported from translatewiki.net even if 13% of the "core MediaWiki messages" group is not translated. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
By the way, potentially this could be a problem on any seriously multilingual project, including Wikidata, Wikispecies, Old Wikisource, Beta Wikiversity and Incubator. But it's far more likely to be a material issue here, especially since user pages from here transclude elsewhere. So having a local fix here has some real value. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:08, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and modify the local tlh pages to read "Klingon" (in English, not in Klingon). I appreciate that Klingon is mostly not welcome here, and I don't necessarily even disagree with that. But as long as {{User language/tlh}} exists here and is used, and as long as tlh is a valid code input to {{#babel: ...}}, it's silly for {{#babel:tlh}} to say "English". StevenJ81 (talk) 18:30, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Request to mark article for translation[edit]

There have been some new edits to the Wikimedia Uruguay page on Meta in the last months. Could some administrator mark the changes for translation, so I can translate the new version to other languages? Thank you very much. --Pepe piton (talk) 20:00, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Matiia (talk) 19:46, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Spam filter[edit]

I'm trying to summit a request here. But the anti-spam filter won't let me do it. Help please? --Leonfd1992 (talk) 23:34, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Nothing to do here. The user was able to create the page. Matiia (talk) 19:57, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protection request on Wikimedia News[edit]

This need semi-protection due to reverts lately. --George Ho (talk) 08:41, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Done. --Steinsplitter (talk) 10:47, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Import c:Template:Verified account[edit]

Hello,

Could an admin, an importer or a trans-wiki importer import the aforementioned template here ? This would be useful for OTRS.

If there is already such a template, could you simply tell me which one it is ? I didn't find it.

Best regards,

--AntonierCH(d) 11:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Do we require account verification on meta? --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
I'd say we don't. No valid use case (if there is any at all) for verified accounts applies to meta. --Krd 11:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
There is one use case actually, the meta user page is used on other wiki if there is not a local one. Example with User:Louvain Coopération who uses the global userpage for FR wiki and Commons. --AntonierCH(d) 14:06, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
I would like to add that if this template is not imported, it implies that 1) the agent has to create local pages on all involved wikis (here only FR + Commons) and 2) the user can't use the global user page functionality entirely. Let's work efficiently and UX oriented :-) --AntonierCH(d) 14:31, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Is there any account verification policy on Commons and/or on frwiki? --Krd 14:41, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes for sure, on FR wiki and probably yes for Commons since there is the template and it is used... However, none is written in OTRS wiki and maybe it would be great to have a common cross-wiki policy. --AntonierCH(d) 14:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
See en:WP:REALNAME, which is also policy at simplewiki. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
I agree that a global policy could be useful, and I'd say the policy and the corresponding guidelines for OTRS agents should be established before facts are made by using a new template. I'd appreciate if anybody could take care of building such global policy. --Krd 15:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
@Krd: Sure, but I am currently in Cuba and know how much time consuming creating a global policy can be (weeks or months !), there is no way I am working on this in the next weeks, so I solved the problem by adding a simple line on the meta user page of the user. --AntonierCH(d) 09:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

remove protection[edit]

Hi, please remove protection from Tech/Server switch 2017. TYVM! Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Seems like the protection you set already expired. Stryn (talk) 15:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Request to Language committee[edit]

Good afternoon. Can someone from the Language committee confirm the receipt/acceptance of this request? Thanks! --LIVE NIEUWS (talk) 13:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Language committee will see it in the other places you've posted. If they do not respond soon I will poke. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)