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Emergency deflag of Verdy_p

Please remove translationadmin flag to Verdy_p immediately. He completely disrupted the page Wikimedia Community Logo/Reclaim the Logo with a number of edits and actions, I was fixing it but I found it moved and suppressed and he refuses to stop and talk, instead continuing in write only mode.[1] I need him to be deflagged so that I have some minutes to fix the problems and then explain him. --Nemo 10:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

For the record, there have been many other instances where he has refused to listen to concerns about his use of translationadmin, noting several threads on his usertalk page. --Rschen7754 10:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

For the record, you should read these: it's a portuguese women that did not understand anything, and also used an automatic translator to submit changes and introduing English words.

She has been corrected not just by me. Most of her texts are needing corrections. She does not know or understand the basics of Wiki syntax found in pages she operated on.

This is the only issue I had with someone. verdy_p (talk) 10:59, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I have asked him to stop until there is a resolution, and if he doesn't we can block and take to his talk page.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I have absolutely not broken the page.' Nemo just look for the page for one minute during the edits, as I had not synchronized the versions with a null-edit. This is fully OK. now. He asked this too fst to you. And Nemo has NOT corrected anything in what I did. Removeing the flag for a single bage being actively edited for a couple of minutes is an extreme solution. verdy_p (talk) 10:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Rschen7754, I'm not aware of a general pattern, discussing that would be better suited for Meta talk:Babylon. --Nemo 11:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

 Closed All by-the-by. The rights have not been touched, and you are directed to take your battle to meta talk:Babylon  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

With the closure above and as it seems that this isn't that much of an emergency: If you want a right removed, please go to RFA and fill a request for de-translation adminship. -Barras talk 11:11, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, seems the emergency has passed: thanks billinghurst for making him stop. --Nemo 11:16, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I had stopped. The "emergency" above was absolutely not justified, and I have not refused to talk, in fact I was not even contacted before it was sent here by Nemo (first sentence of this section). He just saw a page renamed and certainly saw notifications of this and reacted immediately here, he could opposed to that and explain. I have never deleted any page, the page was only moved in a single action, the only one for which he reacted immediately here.

That author even finally admitted (in its own edits) that my edits were correct ('see its comment "can"t believe it" in the page, then finally he sees that the link is effectively broken, and finally choose an other link though my suggestion of replacement was correct). I have fully accepted the reversal of the renamed page and that was the only issue. I have not abused it, I thought it was OK becuse the parent page itself had been moved too (also with the same "Wikimedia" prefix I used) ! I acted under good faith.

The emergency measure was clearly abused here. (byt someone whose adminship was removed due to various conflicts Meta:Requests for adminship/Nemo bis (removal) an his continued practicing of owning pages for himself). Even if he's no longer an admin, he continues acting as if he was owning pages. He never negociates, and in fact he is the only one that refused to talk (and he never talked to Babylon as instructed here...) Nemo has also deleted one of my responses here (see the history of this page), when trying to hide the one to which I was replying.

And about the other comments on my talk page, I have defenders against the same new Portuguese women that ignores repeatedly al what I (and others) are saying to her and that uses Google Translate (there are very visible proofs of that, including the way Google Translators converts the double or triple quotes found in some messages containing bold or italic, because Google Translator ignores the Wiki syntax, but also in the way it breaks source HTML tags like &lt:br /> by inserting extra spaces or dropping the slash or moving it elsewhere in the sentence, or how some template transclusions get also broken, also Google Translator transates the template names or parameter names...) to submit everything she sees, without understanding any word of what she "translates" (by evidence she does not understand English, doesn't understand the basic Wiki syntax, and had never read anything in the doc about translation). Only another Pourguese-speaking contributor will attempt to stop her and explain things that she clearly does not understand. May be she's good in Portuguese Wikipedia, but not here as a translator if she does not understand English. verdy_p (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Your counter-deduction here will be lost within some weeks, setting apart from personal considerations (basically you should care of behaviours rather than people) you'd better explain your action on the babel tp. --Vituzzu (talk) 01:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

 Closed Issue managed  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Meta:Requests for adminship/Nemo bis (removal)

Triggered by some recent publicity I finally remembered to break, as I announced almost a year ago, some external links pointing to blatant insults/harassments, someone didn't like my horrible censorship so I think the drama could end with a PP. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Barras protected the page. @Barras: There was already a discussion, and there wasn't any consensus to censor those hyperlinks. Those hyperlinks led to evidence that I listed and explained on a forum. It isn't harassment. Vituzzu is the only user that was involved in that discussion that desired censorship. None of the discussion's other participants complained about the links or desired censorship. Those links had been on that page uncensored for nearly a year without causing any issues or incidences. This changed today, and it wasn't because someone complained about those links recently; it was because I mentioned the discussion in an opinion that I offered during Vituzzu's Steward confirmation discussion. Those links had been here for nearly a year without hurting anyone, so they shouldn't be censored. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 00:50, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Uiiii linkspam to wikipediocracy.com, nothing really new; at Commons we even considered blacklisting them. -- Rillke (talk) 21:35, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

+1, it looks like a anti-wikipedia troll blog... --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:33, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

It isn't a "troll blog". As with many other online forums, Wikipediocracy simply allows its contributors to exercise free speech. Some users there dislike Wikipedia and Wikimedia. Some of them are or had been banned from enwiki. Some users there love contributing to Wikipedia and Wikimedia, including some enwiki sysops. I don't see anything inherently wrong with linking to a website that contains some "anti-Wikipedia" sentiments. Criticism exists, and I don't believe that we shouldn't deny its existence or suppress it. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:44, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Since I only just happened to see this, I only protected it because I saw the reverts on my watchlist for whatever reason (no idea why I was still watching the page). I've no real opinion on what was going on there I was just the one to stop the edit war and to encourage the involved parties to discuss it rather than reverting each other over and over again. Whatever the result will be, I don't really care, I haven't checked the links or whatever. Just don't go on with the edit war and find a solution. -Barras talk 22:06, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Alright. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:26, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

@Rillke: I wasn't spamming. "Considered"? Yes, but the blacklisting attempt failed by a landslide. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:26, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

 Closed It is dead and irrelevant issue at this page, please take the battle elsewhere.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Abd

Can an administrator please warn Abd not to harass Miriam Hondjo? This was a brand new user who originally wasn't very aware of general wiki conventions and repeatedly tried to bring her post to the top of the page despite being warned not to do so, which led to her nasty comments and personal attacks resulting in a short block to get her attention and calm her down. Presumably, she did this because she was understandably upset people were moving her comments. After the block she stopped most of her behavior, but while she was still under block Abd taunted her implicitly saying she was a hypocrite and not smart enough to be able to listen to others. I've tried to help this user in the process, the result was she removed my comment from Wikimedia Forum then Abd again believing he had total knowledge of the situation resumes taunting her with comments like "if being blocked is what you want, carry on, you obviously know how to make that happen". Please tell him to stop, toxic comments like that is what drives new users away. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 00:15, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

New users can make some errors, but harassing/insulting them is not a solution, notably when doing that during a period where she cannot even reply due to her temporary blocking. May be she was upset seeing her comments moved down some talk page. On many other places on the Internet, new comments are posted at top of pages, not at bottom. We may assume good faith for newcomers, that this is the right place to do that also in Wikimedia.

We can explain things, and give time to the newcomer to read (the small break of the tempoaray blocking should be used to explain things.

However if she want to see comments on her own talk page posted at top, we should not forbid it; just like we allow everyone managing his/her own talk page to create archive subpages, close discussions or performing some clenaup there... His/her talk page is the space where he/she will want to see the last conversations in priority, and if for him/her this means placing them at top, it's OK there (even if it's not in other talk pages, where one's own priority does not matter). Keep this freeedom in user talk pages for their owner to manage their own priorities and sort the discussions as they want. verdy_p (talk) 00:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with Miriam's control of her own Talk page. It has nothing to do with the old "top posting" issue. It has to do with TCNSV removing comments. I warned Mirian, because her behavior could easily get her blocked. I do not want her blocked. I do not want her harassed. I want her treated with respect, which includes frank and straight comment, and clear warnings when warranted. --Abd (talk) 01:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You could issue a proper warning without this comment: "if being blocked is what you want, carry on, you obviously know how to make that happen" and if you still think you are in the right and continue this disruptive behavior towards her, this could all end very badly. The "top posting" issue is mostly irrelevant in light of the more pressing issue, which is your harassment. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 01:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Then I question the wisdom of this TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks like Vituzzu ran with that one. Jimbo Wales is not like Miriam Hondjo. She may not know she can read diffs in her page history, and nothing was removed from User talk:Jimbo Wales that was not archived, with an explicit link to the archive.[2] --Abd (talk) 01:53, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I left Abd some advice. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 01:07, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) If anyone else has issues with me over this, please raise them with me; TCNSV has attempted to control her talk page with removal of comments[3] or deflecting warnings,[4] (as she has removed his comment from the Forum.[5].)
• This filing appears to be a response to [6] a warning on his talk page, confirmed by a steward.
• I am known for reaching out to disruptive users, to honestly and frankly engage with them, and it works sometimes. TCNSV's work here may have been helpful to a point, but could end up helping get her blocked. At least he didn't remove that last warning, nor did he attempt to tell her "not to worry" about it. --Abd (talk) 01:10, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I would prefer Abd be prevented from interacting with her at all until he can demonstrate a mature capability to calm someone down and not resort to taunts. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 01:12, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

(editconf tons of times)While Miriam Hondjo has a pretty weird pattern with unacceptable tones Abd closely followed her in worsening the overall quality of their talk. So I agree Abd must refrain from biting her/carrying on that polemic. Dealing with Jimbo's talkpage it is supposed to be managed by Jimbo himself. There's also no need for further quarrels. --Vituzzu (talk) 01:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Jimbo wrote on that page: Better to not leave messages for me here, because I don't always look at meta. Put them on en:User talk:Jimbo Wales. His page had turned into a coatrack for various complaints, and a flame war had broken out. So I whacked that, archiving the comments. If Jimbo is supposed to manage his own user page, why then does Vituzzu think he should? His revert and deletion of the archive. It is common for users to make helpful changes to user talk pages, and the user may always revert them. The community or Jimbo will decide if Vituzzu's intervention here is helpful or otherwise. --Abd (talk) 01:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I see that Vituzzu also just full-protected User talk:Jimbo Wales. Vandalism claimed, but there hadn't been vandalism in months. Is this related to voting in Stewards/Confirm/2014/Vituzzu, and a threat from Vituzzu about "ex-enwiki users" on meta? --Abd (talk) 01:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Look carefully. Vituzzu merely restored the "move" protection. That protection was there previously, but it was removed when Vituzzu deleted the page (deleting a page resets its protection level). --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 04:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You are correct, Michael. Struck the claim about protection, I misread the log. It talked about vandalism and I didn't realize it was move vandalism, which didn't happen recently. --Abd (talk) 04:45, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I've also left Miriam Hondjo some advice, since that's the user that all of us here wish to help. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 01:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Michael. That is how to handle a warning perceived as being too harsh. You did not deflect it. It may make no difference, but it won't hurt. --Abd (talk) 01:47, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. Let's hope for the best. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 04:12, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Almost immediately before her block and throughout the course of it, Abd had called her out as a "troll" and that "checkuser might be in order" to imply she was a sockpuppet, a serious accusation leveled right on her very own talkpage with no evidence whatsoever. Things like "It...has nothing to do with the intelligence of participants here or others, including the administrators who blocked you. It does have do with your intelligence" leads me to believe that contrary to his claim of trying to help a new user, he is in fact driving her away.TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 01:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I did not "call her out" as a a troll in [[7]. I wrote that checkuser might be in order, "If someone recognizes the behavior." I said that I didn't. All those comments should be read in context, not only of what I wrote, but of what Miriam had written and done, to which I was responding. When I make a serious accusation, I don't do it on the user's talk page. I'd do it here. Who brought all this here? Hint: not me.

I am now making a serious accusation: TCNSV is falsely quoting what I wrote, taking it out of context, to shift the meaning. Please warn him. He has already been warned about removing the talk page comments of others. --Abd (talk) 02:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You two have been arguing here long enough. Please leave each other alone, or try to make amends. Sorry, but this is getting on my nerves. I've tried to help both of you to do this for a while, but alas... PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:18, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

• Miriam Hondjo is now blocked for a week. From my experience, there was a thin chance that the user would engage, if frankly addressed, and no chance that she would engage with clueless "support," attempting to protect her from frank warnings and conversation. She was not "harassed" by anyone. The user was headed for a block early on, and has shown no sign of deviating from that path. I hope she continues with her talk page access, even if uncivil, she can do little harm there, and in a week, it remains possible that she will engage with this community. There is no need for action here, there never was, -- beyond the report above [8] -- the blanking on the Forum would be seen by many users, quickly reverted, and once it was clear that she had been thoroughly warned, and including offers of support, and was continuing, a block was inevitable. --Abd (talk) 20:11, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Taunting someone on a Wikimedia project like that is not acceptable anywhere on the Wikimedia projects, whether the person is underneath a block or not. Especially when they are underneath a block and unable to respond, you should not taunt them and make them more upset, more likely to repeat their behavior and cause more disruption. Your behavior has been uncivil toward her, and Vituzzu agrees and has warned you above. I doubt you can provide evidence to refute that claim, nor find many supporters to try to do so. And trying to deflect criticism toward me for some other matter does not provide you with a get-out-of-jail-free card either. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 22:06, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't really like the weekly TeleComNasSprVen/Abd disputes, but I doubt blocks will help. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:58, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

 Closed To what seems incessant bickering with each of you, try to separate, learn to appreciate difference, allow them to have an opinion, and stop arguing over over over and over again. If you need to say something, try to get it said once, and move on.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:56, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Terms of use/Paid contributions amendment

This page has really degenerated with editors not signing posts and removing and replaces other editor's comments. There are also numerous personal attacks towards other users. The page is so big I can't keep track of it. Could we deal with this? Techman224^Talk 07:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

And delete 50.129.83.83's translations. Techman224^Talk 08:05, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

 Closed appears resolve.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:59, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Mark for translation: Legal and Community Advocacy/Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline

I need from a sysop with translation-admin rights to mark for translation the protected page Legal and Community Advocacy/Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline, and also add a <languages/> in the beginning of the page. Thanks. --Zerabat (discusión) 23:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done although the translation markup is not written as recommended. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Mark for translation: Wikimedia Argentina/Open letter regarding URAA

Hello again. I need a translation admin to mark Wikimedia Argentina/Open letter regarding URAA for translation. The page is stable and ready for translation. Thanks. --Zerabat (discusión) 03:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done --Rschen7754 03:45, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Russavia

Could you blocked user Russavia? [9]. Are the vulgarisms and obscenities accepted? Best wishes --Piotr967 (talk) 21:01, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, this is no personal attack. It's like saying "Fuck yeah" or "Yeah, bitch". Certainly not enough for a block, IMO. Please correct me if I am wrong. PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Sporadic vulgarities are not worth any sanction, maybe just worth an invite to use a proper language in very public contexts but no sanctions at all. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not bothered by that sort of language. @Piotr967: In the future, can you please start a dialogue between you and the person who offended you instead of going straight to the "request for help" board? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 21:44, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything wrong with coming on a request for help board if you're requesting help, which this user was. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 18:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Piotr967 was requesting a block, not help. Russavia isn't popular among Polish users. Russavia was involved in the EEML dispute and the Polandball dispute at enwiki. Piotr967 is one of Russavia's enemies. Piotr967 is here to have someone that he or she dislikes banned, not to resolve a dispute. That is why Piotr967 came straight to this page instead of starting a dialogue with Russavia. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 18:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

• I do not lead a dialogue with Russavia about vulgarisms or each over who use vulgarisms. I saw the obvious vulgarism by Russavia, so I submitted this vulgarism to sysops. I was sure that vulgarism or obscenities are not accepted in Wikimedia discussions (see [10]). Now I have read your opinions and I know that I was wrong. Vulgarism are accepted in Wikimedia. OK. that this is not a project for me. --Piotr967 (talk) 19:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

You're wrong but the discussion has no reasons to go on. --Vituzzu (talk) 19:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

ToU CentralNotice translations

What needs to be done so that somebody notices the list of translations of Special:CentralNoticeBanners/edit/ChangeToU2014_v1 waiting for approval, and replaces the English version with the long-waiting translations in those languages? Or, is there any CentralNotice admin noticeboard? --Mormegil (cs) 15:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

There is no need for a different CN admin noticeboard, this one works just fine. :-) I don't really want to mark each translation as published right now, as it is tedious. Maybe you can contact someone from the WMF (or a less busy admin) to help? Really, the person who creates the banner (WMF staff) should be the one to do this. Note to admins: You can go to Special:Translate, select the right group, set translation group status as "published", and it will automatically edit the MediaWiki messages with the Centralnotice-*. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:09, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I published all the ones marked "ready" except /bg which seems wrong. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.

(As per the “contact someone from the WMF” – that was my point: is there a centralized place they watch? I would assume the author should always monitor “his/her” CN campaigns and manage them accordingly, but it doesn’t seem to be the case...)

--Mormegil (cs) 15:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Main

Saw today a lot of "Template loop detected" errors when I clicked on some of the pages linked to this template. Could an administrator take a brief look at the underlying template code and fix whatever is wrong with it? TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

It's some problem with TNT I guess that is recently spreading on various pages. I have long given up to follow the bazillion changes made to these templates to know what exactly. --MF-W 12:55, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Since the most recent contributor to these templates were Verdy p, I think he's familiar enough with the code that he might be able to help us. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 19:20, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Meetup/Hong Kong

Please semi-protect this page, it's a vandalism target of cross-wiki abuse 1abacada: [11][12][13][14][15].--GZWDer (talk) 16:06, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Protected for three months. It can be extended as needed. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Translation

I need a translator admin with sysop rights to mark Legal and Community Advocacy/Foundation Policy and Political Association FAQ to translation (the page is protected). Thanks. --Zerabat (discusión) 21:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Normally sysops do not mark pages for translations (many of them are not translators, they operate only on a technical level), they only unprotect a page so that editors can update the text, then a translation admin (not necessaily a sysop) mark the page for translation after validating the format.

A translation admin should be a translator aware of translation issues, and able to test it by actually performing at least one translation.

The translation admin should also help fixing some left vs. right layout issues for RTL (languages like Arabic, Farsi or Hebrew) or numeric expressions involving dates due to the number formatting (such as dot vs/comma decimal separator, comma vs. space for group separators), or punctuation issues (including the unwanted space, not used as word separator in East Asian scripts). Or ask for help (this often means that the source page (eve if it's already been marked a first time, may still need to be updated.

Most pages on Meta do not need any protection (translate admins are monitoring them, and anyway there's alsways a stable /en version which is not editable directly (and nt modifiable by the public translate tool, only modified when a source page is updated and marked again for translation).

So basically, you just want to look for an admin to unprotect the page.

Note that Bureaucrats do not do that; their job is for handling cross-wiki configuration, they have lots of privileges so there are not many of them and they are too busy to handle such unprotection request on a single page of a single wiki. So look for an admin only to have the page unprotected. verdy_p (talk) 22:17, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Translations:Terms of use/Paid contributions amendment/13/ar

Could an admin, please, delete this message? It is not translated. (Created by an IP with contents identical to the English source.) --Meno25 (talk) 04:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

There's no need for any admin here. Deleting the message would not change the fact that the transalted page wil still display the English message.

Keep it; it does not matter and does not harm anyone. Admins have more serious things to do than this minor issue created by someone just clicking a button on the translate interface and not fully completing the translation.

Instead, if you really want to help, translate this message to Arabic; if you can; if you cannot because you do not understand Arabic, leave it unchanged and leave the Arabic translators do the job.

As long as the item is not a spam; you don't need to do anything (only spa,s used in creation need to be deleted; because you can't revert them easily; except by replacing it by the content of the English source).

In summary: we should not ask to admins to delete pages that are extremely likely to be recreated under the same name and for the same purpose.

If you want, you can insert "!!FUZZY!!" at the begining of the English text to force that resource to be considered as if it was untranslated (as long as this tag is present, the source in English will still be displayed in the rendered page, but newcoming translators will see that this resource needs translation. verdy_p (talk) 13:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

question about mass message

Hello! I am a bureaucrat of ru.wiki and now we are reviewing inactive bots in order to remove flags from those that won't be used in future - discussion.

I wanted to ask, whether it's possible to use Global MassMessage to notify all botowners about this discussion in order to learn about their future plans? Before introduction of MassMessage I've done it manually but it would save me much time to use a tool... If it's possible I would provide some meta sysop with the list and message to be delivered rubin16 (talk) 08:10, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

@Rubin16: You can use MassMessage on ruwiki as a local sysop. LlamaAl (talk) 12:15, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I know but a lot of botowners come from other wikis and I can't use MassMessage there rubin16 (talk) 12:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

How would you determine which wiki to send each message to? PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

all user pages of bots have template with username of botowner - I've manually looked through them and prepared list of userpages of all bot owners and their home wikis rubin16 (talk) 18:41, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

If you want to; feel free to put the list and the message you want to send in your userspace and an administrator or another MassMessage-sender will take a look and probably send it on your behalf. Assuming I see the message a list before deciding - I'd be willing to do it within reason. John F. Lewis (talk) 18:45, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

That's the list: User:Rubin16/list. That's the message: User:Rubin16/message. Thanks rubin16 (talk) 05:30, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

MassMessage right

Hi :) Please add me to the list of senders? Thanks! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done, thank you. --M/ (talk) 12:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)