Requests for comment/Restrict non-confirmed users of all wikis from crosswiki-uploading files to Commons
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In response to the study on crosswiki uploads conducted by the WMF (document, discussion), the Commons community agreed to disallow (or prevent) non-(auto)confirmed users from transferring local uploads into Commons (discussion).
I soon then created a Phabricator task (phab:T370598), which is still ongoing. After insufficient or lack of progress, I even proposed a Community Wish, which the WMF then rejected or "archived" or whatever you call it (subpage).
The following communities subject to the WMF study release approved restricting local wiki users from transferring uploads (via crosswiki tools especially) into Commons: enwiki, arwiki.
I don't feel like re-proposing this in every other wiki, especially after trying at dewiki. Here I am re-proposing what's already agreed/approved by the Commons community. George Ho (talk) 20:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Support
[edit]- * Pppery * it has begun 22:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ahri Boy (talk) 23:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yann (talk) 10:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- This needs to be done, and would help stop a lot of spam. signed, Aafi (talk) 06:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with Aafi that this is necessary. Abzeronow (talk) 20:24, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Leaderboard (talk) 15:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose
[edit]Neutral or other
[edit]General discussion
[edit]- Are the enwiki and arwiki configuration changes in place already? If yes, did it bring any observable positive effect (and perhaps, some negative effect as well)? If not, why not? It seems sensible to start from the 2 wikis first, wait for a while, and check some initial results. --whym (talk) 13:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why don't you visit either community and ask then? You've been obviously concerned about restricting users from doing things, haven't you? George Ho (talk) 05:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Has someone wrote a patch for this already? Or is this just a plea to get someone else to do that first? — xaosflux Talk 03:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- The Chinese Wikipedia has disabled cross-wiki uploads, and instead their users are directed to their local Upload Wizard phab:T208397. I'm very much in favor of restricting cross-wiki uploads from new users, but it's not clear to me how it would work technically in this request. @George Ho Is the idea that non-confirmed users couldn't even see the Upload dialog (little icon in the edit window)? Or should they still see it but when they click it, they're going to be directed to the Upload Wizard in Commons? kyykaarme (talk) 10:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Is the idea that non-confirmed users couldn't even see the Upload dialog (little icon in the edit window)? Not exactly. How about hide the "Export to Wikimedia Commons" button from non-confirmed users? Wait, this was already done, right? (phab:T160891)
- Or should they still see it but when they click it, they're going to be directed to the Upload Wizard in Commons? And then what? Let those users infringe copyright by uploading someone else's work without permission? George Ho (talk) 16:24, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- The Chinese Wikipedia has disabled cross-wiki uploads, and instead their users are directed to their local Upload Wizard phab:T208397. I'm very much in favor of restricting cross-wiki uploads from new users, but it's not clear to me how it would work technically in this request. @George Ho Is the idea that non-confirmed users couldn't even see the Upload dialog (little icon in the edit window)? Or should they still see it but when they click it, they're going to be directed to the Upload Wizard in Commons? kyykaarme (talk) 10:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)