Requests for new languages/Wikinews Kurdish (Sorani)

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikinews Kurdish (Sorani)
submitted verification final decision
Applications-system.svg This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Project is eligible. Please contribute at incubator:Wn/ckb. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 23:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ckb (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Kurdish (Sorani) Language name in English
Language name (كوردى (سۆرانی)' Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36811 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Sorani
  • native label (P1705) = کوردیی ناوەندی, زمانێ کوردی‎ (zimanê kurdî), کوردی‎ (kurdî)
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Kurdish languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = ckb
  • writing system (P282) = Arabic alphabet, Kurdish alphabets
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 3,700,000±50,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name ویکیھەواڵ "Wikinews" in your language
Project namespace ویکیھەواڵ usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace لێدوانی_ویکیھەواڵ "Wikinews talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Ckb-Wikinews-logo-135px.svg 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone UTC "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces بۆچوون For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

Bulleted list item Sorani and Kurmanci are the two major dialects of Kurdish language. They are different in both grammar and vocabulary. People of these dialects may understand each other but they are not able to speak and write in the other one. Unlike Kurmancis that use Latin script, Soranis prefer to use Arabic script.

Language facts:[edit]
  • Number of speakers: more than 8 million.
  • Locations spoken: Iraq and Iran.
  • Related languages: Iranian Languages.
  • Kurmanji and Sorani are linguistically sufficiently different.
  • Kurdish (Sorani) is the second official language in Iraq now and using in Iraqi Council of Representatives.

Discussion[edit]

Arguments in favour[edit]

Arguments against[edit]

  • Oppose Kurdish users are not active enough in Wikimedia projects. --Doostdar (talk) 13:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not yet until multiple Wikinews projects are revitalized or popular for the first time. --George Ho (talk) 05:06, 27 April 2017 (UTC); mostly struck, 16:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
    • @George Ho: you're making no sense. So just because other Wikinews projects aren't active enough, we shouldn't have our own project?--Épine (talk) 14:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Other discussion[edit]