Requests for new languages/Wikinews Tagalog

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Request for a new language edition: Wikinews Tagalog

submitted verification final decision This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

• The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
• The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
• The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	tl (SIL, Ethnologue)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Tagalog	Language name in English
Language name	Wikang Tagalog	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q34057 - item has currently the following values: en label = Tagalog native label (P1705) = Wikang Tagalog instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Central Philippine languages Wikimedia language code (P424) = tl writing system (P282) = Latin script, Filipino alphabet, Abakada alphabet, Philippine Braille, Baybayin number of speakers (P1098) = 24,000,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community	Sky Harbor (PN), Ooswesthoesbes, Felipe Aira (N), JL 09 (N) You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	tl.wikinews.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikinews	"Wikinews" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikinews talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	yes	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone		"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

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Tagalog is the largest language in the Philippines (24 million native speakers), and as Filipino, is the national language of the Philippines. As the old proposal was closed in a "supposed" merger of the Wikinews request process into this process, I guess I should refile this proposal here.

While there is a substantial Tagalog-language press in the Philippines, there is a perceived "lack" of credible news in Tagalog. A substantial majority of Tagalog-language newspapers are entertainment-oriented tabloids with some credible news content, and there is no more Tagalog broadsheet. I think Wikinews can fill that gap, even if it is a primarily online news source.

Arguments in favour

• Support Support If the situation is as described by the proposer, this might be one of the rare cases, where Wikinews really has a chance to make a difference. --Johannes Rohr 14:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support Per nom and Johannes Rohr. And I would add free content is not so popular idea in Asia yet: Wikinews, news under free licence might make a difference. --Aphaia 16:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support I think this project will run. --Ooswesthoesbes 12:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support Create this online news source in Tagalog, when there are not a lot now (or not enough for a large overview, in Tagalog language, of World and local news), seems to be interesting, even if it is a primarily online news source, as written by proposer. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support I do not think it would be the most active wikinews but there is enough people who speak Tagalog for this project to make it.--James, La gloria è a dio 23:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support I also think this project will run.--Absar 10:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support. World news can be appreciated better in the Philippines through Tagalog rather in English. Starczamora 01:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support The project has to begin. Without an official start, the Tagalog and/or Filipino and/or mixed Tagalog-English language tabloid-formatted newspapers will continue to run without a competent competitor written in formal and proper Tagalog such as Wikibalita (Wikinews). - AnakngAraw 18:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
• Support Support Tagalog is a major language in the Philippines, and the Tagalog Wikipedia has a very active community of editors Mk32 23:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
• Support Support Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 04:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
• Support Support JL 09 16:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
• Support Support' A news project in Tagalog would uplift the state of the language and would open the floodgate of news projects in other Philippine languages and scripts. --23prootie 00:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
• Support Support' That new site will do it. --User:Supergabbyshoe 22:57, 4 December 2010 (PST)
• Support Support The site has to be created. --User:Vincentangeles005 16:53, 15 November 2012 (UST)

Arguments against

• Oppose Oppose The Tagalog Wikipedia is still very small. Please focus on Wikipedia first, before starting a WikiNews. --Jeroen 02:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

  The Tagalog Wikipedia is currently the second largest Philippine-language Wikipedia (>16,500 articles), and the most active Philippine-language Wikipedia (>42 active contributors). Although, I would say that its Wikinews will be only a bit active, it is sure to gather active contributors. See the growth of contributors below. -- Felipe Aira 12:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

number of active contributors have grown significantly

• Oppose--Reality006 23:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose --Pitpisit (talk) 09:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

General discussion

• FYI Localisation is a precondition to final approval. Given that only 39.31% of the most important messages have been localised at this time, it falls short from what is expected of second projects for a language. Expected is localisation for all MediaWiki messages and all the extensions used in the WMF. GerardM 12:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Sadly, most localization before was performed on the Tagalog Wikipedia and not BetaWiki. I'm spearheading efforts to unify the translations used on the Tagalog Wikipedia and Wiktionary in order to make a unified standard translation, as these have two different sets of translated messages. --Sky Harbor 00:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Localisations will be copied into Betawiki on request. Once this is done, there are likely to be many messages that have to be generalised so that they are usable in MediaWiki (project specific information has to be removed).
• With localisation effectively done, it is important that there is sufficient activity to appreciate that the project will have a living community. Thanks, GerardM 12:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Localisation update

• Currently 24.84% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.37% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• Currently 24.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.45% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
• Currently 21.70% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.29% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 11:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
• Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 99.91% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. A REALLY big effort was made by AnakngAraw Thanks, GerardM 12:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)