Requests for new languages/Wikinews Tagalog

submitted	verification	final decision

	This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	tl (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Tagalog	Language name in English
Language name	Wikang Tagalog	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q34057 - item has currently the following values: English label: Tagalog native label (P1705): wikang Tagalog instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, modern language / Tagalogic Wikimedia language code (P424): tl writing system (P282): Filipino alphabet number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 23,600,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	no indication	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	tl.wikinews.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikinews	"Wikinews" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikinews talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	yes	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone		"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Tagalog is the largest language in the Philippines (24 million native speakers), and as Filipino, is the national language of the Philippines. As the old proposal was closed in a "supposed" merger of the Wikinews request process into this process, I guess I should refile this proposal here.

While there is a substantial Tagalog-language press in the Philippines, there is a perceived "lack" of credible news in Tagalog. A substantial majority of Tagalog-language newspapers are entertainment-oriented tabloids with some credible news content, and there is no more Tagalog broadsheet. I think Wikinews can fill that gap, even if it is a primarily online news source.

Arguments in favour

Support Support If the situation is as described by the proposer, this might be one of the rare cases, where Wikinews really has a chance to make a difference. --Johannes Rohr 14:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support Per nom and Johannes Rohr. And I would add free content is not so popular idea in Asia yet: Wikinews, news under free licence might make a difference. --Aphaia 16:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support I think this project will run. --Ooswesthoesbes 12:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support Create this online news source in Tagalog, when there are not a lot now (or not enough for a large overview, in Tagalog language, of World and local news), seems to be interesting, even if it is a primarily online news source, as written by proposer. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support I do not think it would be the most active wikinews but there is enough people who speak Tagalog for this project to make it.--James, La gloria è a dio 23:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support I also think this project will run.--Absar 10:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support. World news can be appreciated better in the Philippines through Tagalog rather in English. Starczamora 01:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support The project has to begin. Without an official start, the Tagalog and/or Filipino and/or mixed Tagalog-English language tabloid-formatted newspapers will continue to run without a competent competitor written in formal and proper Tagalog such as Wikibalita (Wikinews). - AnakngAraw 18:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support Tagalog is a major language in the Philippines, and the Tagalog Wikipedia has a very active community of editors Mk32 23:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 04:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support JL 09 16:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support' A news project in Tagalog would uplift the state of the language and would open the floodgate of news projects in other Philippine languages and scripts. --23prootie 00:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Support' That new site will do it. --User:Supergabbyshoe 22:57, 4 December 2010 (PST)
Support Support The site has to be created. --User:Vincentangeles005 16:53, 15 November 2012 (UST)
Support Support Reopen. Will be created! --Cyrus noto3at bulaga (Talk to me) 08:55, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Tmv (talk) 01:54, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against

Oppose Oppose The Tagalog Wikipedia is still very small. Please focus on Wikipedia first, before starting a WikiNews. --Jeroen 02:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Tagalog Wikipedia is currently the second largest Philippine-language Wikipedia (>16,500 articles), and the most active Philippine-language Wikipedia (>42 active contributors). Although, I would say that its Wikinews will be only a bit active, it is sure to gather active contributors. See the growth of contributors below. -- Felipe Aira 12:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

number of active contributors have grown significantly

Oppose--Reality006 23:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose --Pitpisit (talk) 09:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion

FYI Localisation is a precondition to final approval. Given that only 39.31% of the most important messages have been localised at this time, it falls short from what is expected of second projects for a language. Expected is localisation for all MediaWiki messages and all the extensions used in the WMF. GerardM 12:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sadly, most localization before was performed on the Tagalog Wikipedia and not BetaWiki. I'm spearheading efforts to unify the translations used on the Tagalog Wikipedia and Wiktionary in order to make a unified standard translation, as these have two different sets of translated messages. --Sky Harbor 00:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Localisations will be copied into Betawiki on request. Once this is done, there are likely to be many messages that have to be generalised so that they are usable in MediaWiki (project specific information has to be removed).
With localisation effectively done, it is important that there is sufficient activity to appreciate that the project will have a living community. Thanks, GerardM 12:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Localisation update

Currently 24.84% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.37% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Currently 24.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.45% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Currently 21.70% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.29% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 11:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 99.91% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. A REALLY big effort was made by AnakngAraw Thanks, GerardM 12:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]