Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Early Middle English (EMe)

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Early Middle English (EMe)
submitted verification final decision
Process-stop.svg This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

It was rejected since in historical languages, only Wikisource projects can maybe be eligible per LPP. --MF-W 15:38, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code  (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Late Old / Early-Middle English Language name in English
Language name Enɜlisch Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Ƿicipædia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

  • Related languages: Icelandic, Frisian, Proto-Scandinavian, Modern English, Old Saxon (Anglo-Saxon)
  • Locations spoken: Mercia, Northumbria around 950-1250

100% Pure Germanic roots

Discussion[edit]

No new dead language projects will be created, but you can contribute to incubator:Wp/enm (in no particular period of ME) or ang: (in Old English). PiRSquared17 (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

The Old English Wikipedia is in a completely different language which is called by experts "Anglo-Saxon", or more preferably, "old-Saxon". Since modern English isn't based on Bristol dialect, Anglo-saxon would seem alian to a modern English speaker compared to Early Modern English, which has lost inflections and influxed by old norse words. User:Eitansh (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Note: [1] for signature history. --MF-W 21:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
I know they are different languages. And, by the way, isn't Old Saxon (osx) different from Anglo-Saxon/Old English (ang)? At least according to ISO it is. They are both Ingvaeonic though. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
  • The ISO codes given by the page creator (eme, ea) are non-existant or assigned to different languages. --MF-W 21:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
    @MF-Warburg: enm is a valid language code, but refers to all time periods of Middle English. Anyway this will be rejected as even Ancient Greek was. PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
    bug 55491 That is possible, but I referred to the codes given by the proposer. --MF-W 23:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I figured out about the new policy a while ago, and I'm kinda pissed.. Although I truely think Early Middle English deserves at the very least a mentioning on Wikipedia, as it has a community dedicated for it englesaxe and Ancient Greek already has a nice article about it and is thoroughly studied, the early period of middle english is usualy looked over by scholars and doesnt't even have a single mentioning of it on the English Language article. --User:Eitansh (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.125.81.58 (talk)