Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Glosa 2
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- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
| What | Value | Example / Explanation |
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| Proposal | ||
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| Language code | (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
| Language name | Glosa | Language name in English |
| Language name | Glosa | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
| Language Wikidata item | Q1138529 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
| Directionality | LTR | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
| Site URL | .wikipedia.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
| Settings | ||
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| Project name | Wikipedia | "Wikipedia" in your language |
| Project namespace | usually the same as the project name | |
| Project talk namespace | "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) | |
| Enable uploads | no | Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons. |
| Optional settings | ||
| Project logo | File:... | This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation). |
| Default project timezone | Continent/City | "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
| Additional namespaces | For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". | |
| Additional settings | Anything else that should be set | |
Proposal
[edit]Glosa is an evolution of Interglossa, which was a draft of an international auxiliary language constructed by Lancelot Hogben in 1943. The idea was to create an isolating language with an easy-to-learn grammar and a vocabulary based on the international lexicon of science and technology mainly of Greek and Latin origin. The language has acquired its ISO 639-3 code of "igs". Given the fact that nobody uses Interglossa but Glosa (as Interglossa was just a draft and Glosa is its development, we would like to use the Interglossa code to create a Wikipedia in Glosa.
The two main speakers of this language are interested in participating in this project, and the community supports the idea. There is already a wiki in Glosa with more than 1,500 articles, about different topics like Buddhism or Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, which will be transferred here at the same time the wiki gets developed.
The language is used outside Wikipedia, with even a YouTube channel, and a journal being published in the language. There are textbooks in Glosa about different topics like history and interlinguistics, as well as literary texts such as Around the World in Eighty Days, Hills Like White Elephants and the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, as well as the Acts of the Apostles.
- Communities: a website, a subreddit, a Facebook group, a Telegram group, a French academic project, a Wiki on Fandom. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 16:41, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]Arguments in favour
[edit]- --Caro de Segeda (talk) 16:41, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Caro de Segeda iso639-3:igs points to Interglossa, might be somewhat a different conlang, should you try to apply for another new code or re-write your request to reflect Interglossa instead? Anyway, even if the Interglossa one, it was rejected in the last year, has there any new changes happened rather than repeating the previous rejected one? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, so in that case, I understand we cannot create a Wikipedia for Glosa using the Interglossa code even if Interglossa was never used and almost immediately since the time of its creation evolved to Glosa. Is that correct? Regarding the changes, now we have a Glosa community, before we were just two people. What do we need to do then in order to create a wiki in Incubators Plus 2.0? Caro de Segeda (talk) 07:33, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Caro de Segeda For create a wiki in Incubators Plus 2.0, you don't need this RFC anymore, just join [1], someone else already created it. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:57, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, so in that case, I understand we cannot create a Wikipedia for Glosa using the Interglossa code even if Interglossa was never used and almost immediately since the time of its creation evolved to Glosa. Is that correct? Regarding the changes, now we have a Glosa community, before we were just two people. What do we need to do then in order to create a wiki in Incubators Plus 2.0? Caro de Segeda (talk) 07:33, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Caro de Segeda iso639-3:igs points to Interglossa, might be somewhat a different conlang, should you try to apply for another new code or re-write your request to reflect Interglossa instead? Anyway, even if the Interglossa one, it was rejected in the last year, has there any new changes happened rather than repeating the previous rejected one? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. I am not convinced about the viability of a Wikipedia in Glosa given the very tiny number of people who practise it, and I don't think it will add much of value for the disseminiation of knowledge either; at best, it will turn out be be something like the WIkipedia in Novial. However, the argument that Glosa does not have an ISO code is moot. Interglossa was little more than a draft (it shouldn't have gotten an ISO code in the first place, but that's another story), which then was developed further into what would become Glosa, partly by the creator of Interglossa himself. Mind, a different name doesn't automatically make a different language. Nobody would argue that Interlingue is not the same language as Occidental, and Esperanto had been given various names by its creator before it became La lingvo internacia. Volapük, on the other hand, underwent serious changes in the 1930s, long after the death of its original creator J.M. Schleyer, yet its name remained the same and nobody would think of it as a new language. If Interglossa would have retained its old name Interglossa like Volapük did, would anybody still argue that it is not the same language? I don't think so. Therefore, in my opinion Glosa should at least be given a fair chance to develop a successful project in the Incubator under the code igs. IJzeren Jan (talk) 14:57, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
- The difference is ausbau, but ausbau is still a valid difference for Wikimedia purposes; maybe not in extreme cases like Serbian/Montenegrin/Bosnian/Croatian but certainly in cases like Afrikaans/Dutch and Norwegian/Swedish/Danish. We can’t repurpose an ISO code out of convenience. Dronebogus (talk) 11:25, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
Arguments against
[edit]- Oppose as stated above, unless one day Glosa got its new ISO code, any of the process of this request won't be happened. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:56, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose no ISO code no wiki. Even if it had one I do not support any new conlang wikis as they are dominated by insular circles of hobbyists and are not serious communication media. --Dronebogus (talk) 06:51, 29 December 2025 (UTC)