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What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ayh (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Hadhrami Arabic Language name in English
Language name حضرمي Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q3510366 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality RTL Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Settings
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Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
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If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
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Additional settings Anything else that should be set
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Proposal

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Hello! I am proposing the creation of a Hadhrami Arabic Wikipedia. Hadhrami Arabic is the L1 for many people in and outside Yemen. There are aprox. 6 million w:Hadharem (People of w:Hadhramaut) who use this language, and it would make sense for there to be a wikipedia in their language variant --𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Arguments in favour

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  • Support, over 5 million speakers ought to be more than enough, and we have several wikis on non-standardised Arabic dialects. Need to get a few more people editing the incubator though, idk if you've tried asking people on ar.wiki? Kowal2701 (talk) 19:10, 25 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against

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  • Oppose Though I am not Hadhrami, but I think the core of the matter in creating Wikipedia is creating better communication and better information at global level, freely created by anybody and every body. That is partly why the "Interwiki" was created. Creating an additional language might seem reasonable, why not there are some 250 languages already, what harm could adding another language do. This will certainly harm the Arabic Wikipedia, because it will only pull out of its resources; mainly the Arabic speaking writers that contentedly contribute there. I also want to metaphorically add a question: "Would you accept to have an American English Wikipedia, an Australian English Wikipedia, a British English Wikipedia, a New zealand English Wikipedia a Hindi English Wikipedia?" If the reasons are not strong enough, and would not add value then I do not think so, because all the English litriture in the world is written in one standard language with some differences depending on who the writer is, his or her style of writing and the topic he or she is writing about. The Simple English Wikipedia is created for a totally different set of reasons, yet it applies to the English Speaking People any where in the world. Almajidy (Talk) 06:44, 23 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The argument is flawed, as Hadhrami Arabic is not a subvariety of Standard Arabic, but one of the so-called "dialects" of Arabic, several of which already have wikipedias of their own. By the way, Scots, which historically and structurally is an English "dialect", also has its own wikipedia. Nobody is impeded from contributing to both the Standard Arabic wikipedia and the one in his own dialect. A "pulling out of resources" would only occur if wikipedia were a kind of planned command economy with limited but fixed "resources" at its disposal, which simply is not the case. --~2026-13665-67 (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]