Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hijazi Arabic

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Hijazi Arabic
submitted verification final decision
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code acw (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Hijazi Arabic Language name in English
Language name الحجازيه Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q56608 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Hijazi Arabic
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Peninsular Arabic
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Arabic alphabet
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 6,031,700±1
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name ويكيپيديا "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Asia/Jedda "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

Hijazi Arabic is a language with over 6 million native speakers in Saudi Arabia and Eritrea, and is also the most widely understood second language among Arabic speakers on the Arabian Peninsula. It is in active use on radio and television in Saudi Arabia and in social media online. It is sufficiently distinct in its grammar, vocabulary, and orthography from Modern Standard Arabic to warrant its inclusion, to as equal a degree as Egyptian Arabic which has at present its own Wikipedia--Dirtylittlefingers (talk) 21:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Oppose --Alaa :)..! 11:44, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose it is not a separate language but rather an accent of Arabic language---مصعب (talk) 12:25, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose --أبو هشام السوعان (talk) 10:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- What a absurd coincidences! Migration season to the absurd. -- صالح (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose As long as there is an Arabic encyclopedia, there is no benefit from this project. --عبد الله (talk) 06:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- I am from Hijaz and my language is Arabic, it is not a separate language.--Bander7799 (talk) 08:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose All speakers of Hijazi understand and speak Arabic as an official language. So I'm definitely against these projects.--Faisal talk 15:44, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose No need to create too many Arabic dialects wikis, their users can and should contribute to ar:. --117.13.95.80 09:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose It's a dialect of Arabic, this is why we have an Arabic Wikipedia. Random Wikimedian (talk) 13:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Support --Hijazi is a language with a different phonology, its grammar is quite different along with its vocabulary.--Al-khataei (talk) 14:57, 14 September 2019 (UTC)