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Joual Wikipedia[edit]

main page Requests for new languages (Wikipedia Joual)
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  • Language details: Joual (Pfälzisch, qc ISO— [invented])
  • Editing community: David (P)
    List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your
    name if you are a native speaker of this language.
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Quebec variety of French is spoken in Quebec

Support Stettlerj 18:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Support David_qc 1 November 2006
Oppose Vilallonga · (digui digui) 16:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose Its the same language with few variations, mainly in pronunciation, not in spelling or grammar. Unless you want to create an encyclopedia in Quebecois slang. --Alonso 19:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose No slang Wikipedia allowed!! Rakuten06 20:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Neutral Acadian is not Slang, it's a vernacular language (variant). But I think it's too close to Parisian to have its own Wikipedia. You might change my mind if you create a flourishing test wiki at which many people collaborate. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 21:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose Zabumon This is ridiculous. Quebec French is not a language, simply a dialect, and it has no written form. Anybody Québécois can understand standard French, so there is absolutely no need for this. The comparison with Norman doesn't stand, because Norman is a language, I suggest you read more about it. You see, the difference between Joual and the "dialects" of France is that those so-called dialects did not spawn directly from standard French, they evolved from Old French, as did Parisian French. Quebec French has no history of being a separate language. A Joual wikipedia would be completely useless, and since there is no written form for it, as it is not meant to be written, it would be a total mess. --Zabumon 00:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose --Bertrand GRONDIN 10:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose --Yes0song 14:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Is it true that Quebec French is different enuf from French French to warrant a Wiki? If so, is there a standardized orthography, grammar, syntax, et cætera?Cameron Nedland 15:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • No, there are no standardized orthography, etc., but there is a Wikipedia in Normand or in other French dialects. Quebec Joual is strongly different from standard French! David_qc