Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Meänkieli 2

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Meänkieli 2
submitted verification final decision
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The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval, will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code fit (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Meänkieli Language name in English
Language name Meänkieli Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q13357 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Meänkieli
  • native label (P1705) = meänkieli
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Finnic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = fit
  • writing system (P282) = Finnish alphabet
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 60,000, 150,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)


Since April 1, 2000, Meänkieli became one of the five nationally recognized minority languages of Sweden. It is most commonly used in the municipalities of Gällivare, Haparanda, Kiruna, Pajala and Övertorneå. Today, grammar books are being written in Meänkieli, as such, the Bible is being translated into Meänkieli; there is drama performed in Meänkieli and some TV programs are being made in Meänkieli.

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Support: Native speakers of Meänkieli have the competency and willingness to contribute to this project in the long-term. Hence the Meänkieli language deserves to be given the opportunity and privilege to have its own language edition of Wikipedia along with the existing Baltic-Finnic languages such as Estonian, Võro and so on. --Jose77 23:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support: The Wiki test project seems to be a good one, so I support this Wikipedia edition. Kanzler31 16:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Support Chabi 06:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

* Support --U.Steele 20:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Support It is very important to have a Wikipedia in Meänkieli. It is comparable with the Bible in the former oral languages of Europe, which the intelligent man Martin Luther understood in the 16th century. He fired an social, economic and later on an industrial revolution. Today is the same thoughts needed. Wikipedia in the people's oral languages
  • Support --N KOziTalk 12:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Support Support--Erdemaslancan (talk) 09:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
    Please note that voting does not have any effect. --MF-W 20:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Strong Support Meänkieli may be linguistically considered as a dialect on Finnish but it is very essential to notice that the speakers form an unique ethnos as they have been separeted from other Finns because of Treaty of Fredrikshamn. Their culture is developed into a different direction during these 200+ years. That has also affected to their language. --109.240.24.48 01:23, 9 March 2017.

Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support - Meänkieli is now officialy considered a language and this wikipedia already has altmost 2k articles so why should it not get accepted????

Arguments against[edit]

  • Don't support Meänkieli is completely mutually intelligible with Finnish and is basically just a Northwest dialect of it. We don't have a Scanian Wikipedia separate from the Swedish one, or a Geordie Wikipedia, do we? This is politically motivated nonsense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 94.101.2.145 (talk) 28 Nov 2010
  • Oppose. Very strange articles and only one active user.--U.Steele 03:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Other discussion[edit]

  • U.Steele, you listed "Very strange articles" as your argument against the creation of a Meänkieli Wikipedia. Could you develop your idea and post some examples? --Iketsi 17:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC)