Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Northumbrian

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Northumbrian
submitted verification final decision
Process-stop.svg This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

No language code. Generally considered a dialect of English. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code  (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Northumbrian Language name in English
Language name ' Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q5378612 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = English of Northumbria
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language /
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) =
  • number of speakers (P1098) =


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipeadia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Proposal[edit]

Second most spoken language in England.

Discussion[edit]

Geordie has no ISO code, so no Wikipedia can be created. Additionally, it is usually considered to be just a dialect of English. However, there is a Scots Wikipedia... which has an ISO code. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

The proposal's aime is to the cover broad northumbrian dialects and not particularly geordie, the reason why it's being called georgie by English speakers is unknown. BTW It DOES actually has an ISO, though it's a reletevly new one: 52-ABA-ab --Eitanish (talk) 00:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for saying "Geordie". That's a Linguasphere code, not an ISO 639 one. Example ISO 639 codes: en, sco, fr, de. We require ISO 639, not Linguasphere codes like 52-ABA-* for English dialects. Sorry. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Think it would be nice to have a wikpedia in Pitmatic? --77.126.27.214 15:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

It might be nice but it appears that Pitmatic does not have an ISO code. Also see PiRSquared17's comment above. --Glaisher [talk] 15:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Isn't this just a dialect? PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Weak support - Yes, I would like to see this written, but not just as a collection of crap jokes, and using the full range of this dialect.-MacRusgail (talk) 23:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
    The problem is iso639-3:nth does not exist, so if still needed then some experts should request a code. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:21, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose No ISO code, no project. --117.15.55.228 08:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not convinced it's sufficiently distinct from English. Also, with reference to other proposals, are there standard grammar books and dictionaries? Is it taught as a "language" at any school? —DIV (120.17.94.115 07:36, 11 February 2019 (UTC))

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