Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Quenya

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Quenya
submitted verification final decision
Process-stop.svg This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

A fictional constructed language without native speakers. --Millosh (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code qya (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Quenya Language name in English
Language name Ouenya Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q56383 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Quenya
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = languages constructed by J. R. R. Tolkien, Elvish languages, fictional language /
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Sarati, Tengwar, Latin script, Cirth
  • number of speakers (P1098) =


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone No and never any "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

Quenya is the most popular of Tolkien-created languages; in enwiki there is more than 100 users who know quenya and, maybe, can egit this wiki. In ruwiki there is a user that speaks natively. --Cat of the Six (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Oppose One can't have a Wikipedia with an ISO 639-3 language code, period. Even after that, qya is a valid ISO 639-3 code. Still, the only artificial languages to get Wikipedias have languages designed for human communication, not for artistic reasons. The Klingon Wikipedia was moved from Wikipedia to Wikia; see History of the Klingon Wikipedia. Quenya would suffer the same problems, including I believe an even more incomplete grammar and vocabulary.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Fixed parameter, as iso639-3:qua means en:Quapaw language, not Quenya. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now, but support in the future. --173.55.239.44 04:08, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now, there is a Wikia for this, which I support. Elenire (talk) 15:58, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose There is no recognition nor a valid ISO language code. Does it even have a complete grammar? This is a artistic-purposed language, not intended for human communication. --Zerabat (discusión) 13:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
    • qya is a valid ISO 639-3 code for the language.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:58, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment. There is Neo-Quenya Wiki at Wikia for quenya. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 18:08, 17 September 2016 (UTC)