Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Serer

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Serer
submitted verification final decision
Applications-system.svg This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval, will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Please contribute to the test project on Incubator. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code srr (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Serer Language name in English
Language name Seereer Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36284 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Serer
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Senegambian languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) =
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 1,200,000
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipédia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

Serer is a one of main languages spoken in Senegal. --Marcello Gianola (talk) 19:53, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

@Marcello Gianola: Per Ignore all rules, shouldn't you feel free to just start by creating main page? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
@Marcello Gianola and Liuxinyu970226: That doesn't even require you to ignore the rules. Eventually, we would need LangCom to rule on the eligibility of the project, but there is no reason that this project wouldn't be eligible. It is certainly eligible for a test project at Incubator. So as Liuxinyu970226 says, just go ahead and start a test project at Incubator. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:00, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
I would add Serer (in English, or Sérère in French) is spelled Seereer in Serer proper. I think it would be great to create this language as there is a huge bundle of work on both the English and French Wikipedia. This language is spoken in Senegal, Gambia and Mauritania. Pinging @OMT5500:, @Liuxinyu970226:, @Tamsier:, @Gamadji: & @Ji-Elle: Senegambianamestudy (talk) 15:08, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about this Senegambianamestudy. I agree with Senegambianamestudy. Seereer (sometimes spelled Sereer) is the proper spelling. I have been an editor for many years now but when it comes to a new language project I find it quite overwhelming. I don't know where to start. I will endeavour my utmost to build a Serer community behind this. I think many people do not even know that this language has even been nominated/requested. I also wanted to request this many years ago but decided not to as was quite overwhelming at the time. So I take my hat off to Marcello Gianola for requesting this language. There is already a huge field of work in this language. There are plenty of written books/papers in this language and about this language. In my view, I think this request satisfies the first 3 eligibility criteria. My only concern is the viability (criteria 4) - i.e. building a community behind this. However, I think that can be easily remedied by letting other native speakers know. Many people do not even know, and some are scared off by the technicalities of the project. I know I was many years ago when I wanted to propose it. Therefore, I think the first step is to rally some native speakers and help them build a community behind this. It is noteworthy to point out here that, I also used to contribute to Wikipedia Wolof (and still do). In the first few years, it was very difficult getting Wolof speakers to rally behind it, but once they got to know about the project, they joined. I envisage the same issues for this language. I will start rallying native speakers in the next few days and also start doing some active tests. Thanks again Marcello Gianola and all those who participated. Tamsier (talk) 04:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
@OMT5500:. Tamsier (talk) 05:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@Tamsier and Marcello Gianola: I will probably get up to deciding on this request during October. So far, there is no test started at Incubator. Understand that if I reject this request as "stale" (because you never acted on it), you can make a new request whenever you're ready to start a project. Still, if you'd like me to approve the request as "eligible", please start creating content on Incubator. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:18, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: Thanks. Tamsier (talk) 11:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
I have started creating some articles in incubator but needs help from experienced people here as to whether I am doing it right. As I stated above, this whole process of creating a new language project scare the day light out of me. I just don't know where to start and afraid that I may muck up things. Any help would be appreciated. Here are 3 articles I've created so far: [1] (copied here just in case I made an error), [2] and [3]. Thanks. Tamsier (talk) 11:56, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
@Tamsier: Please, do not create main page on test wiki portal page, both are at least different things. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:32, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
@Liuxinyu970226: Thanks for telling me. Can you please tell me what to do and how to do it? This is totally new to me that's why I decided not to go further with the project several years ago as there are so many complicated rules. I'm more used to writing articles, creating portals etc, for Wikipedia. This is totally different and I don't know where to start. Tamsier (talk) 12:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

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I have created some articles, templates and categories. All can be found here. It is my understanding that new editors are trying to join the project but as anticipated, have been having issues i.e. getting confused. One poor editor even tried to create a Seereer language article at French Wikipedia and it was obviously deleted by the French team. I think some are getting confused with the various Wikimedia projects. I am currently creating a help page that hopefully would help. Tamsier (talk) 10:10, 19 November 2018 (UTC)