Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Seri

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Seri Wikipedia[edit]

main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Seri
submitted verification final decision
Applications-system.svg This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval, will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code sei (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Seri Language name in English
Language name cmique itom Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36583 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Seri
  • native label (P1705) = cmiique iitom, Cmiique Iitom
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Indigenous languages of the Americas, Hokan languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = sei
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script, unwritten language
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 900


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community SeriCtam (P) Ccaxjoj Iteja Z Iti Poop (N) RosaCazáplc, Powerhouse (N) Battroid, Ollein, Marrovi
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Seri on Ethnologue.com Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Seri (cmique itom) spoken natively by 800 people in Mexico.

to do[edit]

  • Find more native speakers
  • Continue with translating the localization files (currently 800 messages translated)

Signed by: Xazoj CoospojQuitlc 14:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • I speak this language at a near-native level and I think this Wikipedia will be a good project. SeriCtam 17:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I speak native language. I think it be good having a Wikipedia in Seri. Xazoj CoospojQuitlc
  • A native speaker is willing to contribute to this project in the long-term hence this project has the potential to flourish like the Quechua and Nahuatl Wikipedias. Therefore the Seri language ought to be given the opportunity and priviledge to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 20:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
    Two active contributors and most of articles are no stubs. So why not create this wikipedia? --Ooswesthoesbes 13:10, 23 September 2007 (UTC) After studying some Seri and reviewing the Test project: I oppose. --OosWesThoesBes 15:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Certainly support. Pietras1988 11:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I speak this language also at a near-native level and I hope more native people join us to help creating the Seri Wikipedia. RosaCazáplc 15:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
  • A big part of the localization translations are done. SF-Language 05:12, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
  • My native language needs a Wikipedia. Seri is a living language in Mexico and the US. There are about 900 people in Mexico and many in the US. Powerhouse 08:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Σςαρςομδε Wikipedia Γμιφυε Ιςχαμ ιςι γογγεβι ιδέε βαιλιπ! Ποηραβασ 11:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
    Latinized and translated: Starting a Wikipedia in Seri ¿is? good idea. Don't you mean coccebj? SeriCtam 14:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong support. --Battroid 02:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Support, it goes like a train. Ollein 17:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Many users willing to contribute. Deutschlehrer 14:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support, hey .25% that might be the highest %age of speakers of any language that use wikipedia! and few speakers but some willing to participate is all the more reason to approve this. it may go extinct and we'll be able to preserve their worldview and perspective on well everything!!Qrc2006 17:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Mexican languages have been learned in Wikipedia for native speakers and no-native speakers.--Marrovi 21:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong support.Md. Farhan 13:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong support --U.Steele 19:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  • According to Ethnologue there are only 800 people that speak this language.. How realistic is this proposal ? GerardM 16:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Only 2 people claim to be native, that's 0,25% of all natives. SF-Language 16:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Dead as a horse. Unfortunately, I agree with Gerard. 0,25% of all natives is a little much too much and they can't speak Spanish but are able to speak English? Further, the seri wikipedia claims that a Seri variant is spoken in the US? And it does not look like Seri, it's dictionary mess and some words are obviously made up. For example inflewentenam, the article states:
    "Seri": Inflewentenam coccebj ctám necaitom Cmique Itom jöx diijömde itóm hualtecras
    Translation: 'Inflewentenam' is (this is not Seri, but another language, I guess it's is) of the human not spook Seri language ¿jöx? two (dii, some kind of latin?) all (Jömde is not Seri, but another language, it looks like homdi, which is Tale, a constructed language based on Dutch) language ¿hualtecras? (made up, I guess it means natively)
    Normal English: ¿Inflewent people are people who do not speak Seri natively.?
  • Conclusion: Speedily reject the "Seri" Wikipedia. (also useful if you've got a little bit of knowledge of many languages) --OosWesThoesBes 15:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

General discussion[edit]

  • Question: Why do we write this Wikipedia in Latin writing and no in Greekish or another writing. Latin writing wasn't original writing of th Seri people. I think it's more better, more cleaner and more beautiful to write this ensiklopédiam in Greek Αλθα-Βετα. Ποηραβασ 14:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Because the Spanish brought Latin script to Mexico. SeriCtam 14:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
      • The right and only answer should be because Seri is written in the Latin script. GerardM 16:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Localisation update[edit]

Currently 72.19% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised on Betawiki. Thanks, GerardM 06:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Currently 69.02% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 12:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 58.05% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. When you update at translatewiki.net, you are likely to notice the newly localised messages the next day. Thanks, GerardM 09:07, 5 October 2009 (UTC)