Requests for new languages/Wikipedia South Korean

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South Korean Wikipedia[edit]

main page Requests for new languages (Wikipedia South Korean)
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This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

The closing committee member provided the following comment:

A Wikipedia in this language already exists. There is no linguistic evidence that this is a separate language. We will never create a South Korean Wikipedia unless we also allow for American English, Brazilian Portuguese, Finland-Swedish and the like. Jon Harald Søby 12:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Proposal summary
  • Language details: South korean (대한민국 표준어, ko ISO_639-1)
  • Editing community: WonYong (NP), (N)
    List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your
    name if you are a native speaker of this language.
  • Relevant pages: development wiki project
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Language information[edit]

  • South Korean is the language of South Korea.
  • North Korean language is so much different.
  • South Korean means Seoul dialects.
  • South Korean laguage people numbers are about 50,000,000.
  • Korean Wikipedia is aleasy exists. It is for South and North korea. (Korea = South + North) Korean Wikipedia is not for South Korean.
  • This South Korean version is only for south korean official language.

Arguments in favour[edit]

Arguments against[edit]

Now, whilst I am not an expert on any variety of the Korean language, this request seems superfluous. Surely 99.9% of the native speakers on Korean wiki will be from the South? How many North Koreans have access to the internet? I don't see how anything productive can come from a split. If there is a South Korean wiki and a general Korean wiki, there will be a lot of repetition, and one (almost certainly the new one) will fail to survive. If there is a North Korean and a South Korean wiki, the North Korean one will have only a few editors (very patriotic emigrants and people in North Korea who are very brave and very techno-savvy), due to the regime there. Either that, or it will be filled with propaganda from Kim Jong Il's computer hackers. LeighvsOptimvsMaximvs (talk) 11:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

This is a ridiculous idea. The 99.9% the Korean Wikipedia users are from South Korea, and even the 0.1% of foreigners are now using “South Korean”, not “North Korean”. So this is a useless thought. --Hnc197 12:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

ridiculous? you insult me? Korean wikipedia says it is south Korean wikipedia and also north Korean wikipedia. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia jeju is what? Korean wikipedia insist they are all korean lagauge wikipedia. -- WonYong (talk contribs count logs page moves block log email) 14:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

General discussion[edit]

다음은 이 버전을 신청한 취지입니다:

국적 불명의 위키백과를 거부하고, 대한민국 위키백과를 추구합니다. 설마...다 남쪽 사람이 쓰는데, 무슨 국적불명? 초보 사용자시군요. 실상은 그렇지 않습니다. 매우 어리둥절 할 거라고 봅니다. 이제는 그 곳에서 바꾸는 것도 지겹고 해서, 새로운 시도를 해봅니다.

대한민국의 법률에도 분명하게 표준어를 쓰라고 나와있는데, "한국어 위키백과"는 대한민국 표준어와 북한 표준어를 모두 쓸 수 있어야지, 대한민국 언어를 써야 한다는 것은 중립 위반이라면서, 국적 불명의 해석을 하고 있습니다. 대한민국 법률을 중립성 위반이라고 지적하고 있기에 수용 불가합니다. 위헌도 아니고 중립성 위반이랍니다!!

그래서, 이 위키백과 대한민국 표준어 버전을 새로 만들었습니다.

본 위키백과는 매우 개방적이면서도, 합리적인 정책을 추구하여, 훨씬 혁신된 위키백과를 구성해 나갈 것입니다.

특히 대한민국 법률이 중립성 위반이라는 식으로 대한민국의 헌정질서를 무시하는 태도는 금지되면서도, 매우 민주적이면서 효율적인 프로젝트가 될 것입니다.

관리자도 1년임기로 일부씩 나눠서 새로 선출될 것이며, 입법, 사법, 행정의 3권이 분리되어 여러 사용자들이 크게 다투지 않으면서도 매우 합리적으로 운용될 것입니다.

무엇보다, 국적불명을 배격합니다.

분명히 지적하는데, 이 위키백과는 북한의 위키백과가 아닙니다. 조선족이나 재일교포나 재미교포의 위키백과도 아닙니다. 주체는 서울말을 쓰면서 대한민국의 헌정질서를 존중하는 사용자입니다. -- WonYong (talk contribs count logs page moves block log email) 10:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

So rapid conclusion... w:Korean language North-South differences -- WonYong (talk contribs count logs page moves block log email) 14:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of that page, yes (and also was when rejecting). I am also aware of w:American and British English differences, and that doesn't change the fact that English, or Korean, each is one language with several varieties. Jon Harald Søby 20:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)