Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Veps

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See the second proposal, which was approved.

Veps Wikipedia[edit]

main page Requests for new languages (Wikipedia Veps)
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Process-stop.svg This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

The closing committee member provided the following comment:

this project is not proposed/supported by anyone who has a working knowledge of this language. —GerardM 07:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Proposal summary
  • Language details: Veps (Vepsän kel, vep ISO 639-3)
  • Editing community: Budelberger (P)
    List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your
    name if you are a native speaker of this language.
  • Relevant pages: development wiki project
  • External links:
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Among the twelve major Finno-Ugric languages, nine have their Wikipedia (number of articles in brackets) – Finnish (187,000), Hungarian (112,000), Estonian (57,000), Sami (2,700), Võro (1,900), Komi (990), Erzya (632), Udmurt (370), Moksha (292) –, three are on the Incubator – Eastern Mari (900), Karelian (130), Veps (49). Finnish, Hungarian and Estonian are very active ; the others… ; Mari : about a half are articles about the calendar (dates)… articles of those small languages are mainly substubs.

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • None. Nobody is interested. Every living language must have its Wikipedia, but without native speakers ? But… :
    • Strong support ; the Veps test needs some basic translations, see here but without a « request for a new language », no translation in Betawiki (see here) . --Budelberger 23:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC) (Flag of France.svg).
    • What's the problem? Many vepses are interested in the project, and they shall come here very soon. We have about 8000 - 9000 speakers (my figures; officially - less)... Some people are really very active. Игорь Бродский 20:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  • A very small language. I'm alone (User : Veps-0) in the Veps test. --Budelberger 23:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC) (Flag of France.svg).
  • Just asking for a new project because you can is not a good idea. Without the support of anyone with any capability in this language it does not seem like a viable request. Thanks, GerardM 00:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Other discussion[edit]

It should not be so strict and quick decision. Veps language is vital and (surprisingly) has a big internet community with real specialists-linguists and even writers and poets - native veps speakers. Now I'm trying to involve them in this project and there is some sucess. So it is not a dead proposal - when the betawiki translation is nearly completed and the incubator project is OK I will make a new proposal. Sura 23:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

    • Well, we need some time to complete the work in betawiki... but it is in progress :-) We will try to look like Võrõ Wiki-activists ;-) Игорь Бродский 20:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)