Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Chinese

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikiversity Chinese
submitted verification final decision
Application-certificate.svg This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Project is approved. Congratulations! Please see comments at Beta Wikiversity on a couple of items to help facilitate creation of the new wiki. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 20:29, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code zh (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Chinese Language name in English
Language name 中文 Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q7850 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Chinese
  • native label (P1705) = 汉语
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language family / Sino-Tibetan languages, Sinitic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = zh
  • writing system (P282) = Chinese characters, traditional Chinese characters, simplified Chinese characters
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 1,299,877,520


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community Gabrielchihonglee (talk) N (sysop), Shujenchang (talk) N (sysop), Stang (talk) N
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name 維基學院 "Wikiversity" in your language
Project namespace Wikiversity usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Wikiversity talk "Wikiversity talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wikiversity-logo-zh.svg 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone UTC "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces Portal, School, Topic For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal

中文維基用户一直對 Wikiversity 計劃有興趣,尤其容納「原創研究」(original research)一點。近月在 betawikiversity: 之討論再興,而計劃的中文名(維基學院)已定[1],亦有新教材出現。

中文維基社羣有必要開設維基學院。他們有熱心,愛學習。大多數中文維基人活躍於維基百科;然而,維基百科之模式(不許原創,每題目只許單一而觀點中立之條目)未必適合他們所有學習活動。欲從特定而已宣示之觀點探討一些課題 - 維基學院正係合適之場所。中文維基學院應主動與各項維基媒體計劃交流,互相豐富,正如計劃書所述。

这里有些統計資料。

中文維基學院計劃蘊釀已久,現在是再進一步的時候。

-- Hillgentleman 03:34, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

Chinese is a major language with many internet users. There has been on-going interests amongst wikimedians in the Wikiversity project in the Chinese community. The potential of "original research", which is prohibited in wikipedia and many other projects, is particularly well-received. Recently we have seen a revival of activities, and the project name has been determined [2], and new learning resources have been written.

The Chinese Wikimedia community is very much in need of a wikiversity. They are a bunch of enthusiastic individuals, eager to learn. Most of them work on the Chinese wikipedia; however, the wikipedia model (no original research and a single article with a neutral point of view on every topic) may not be ideal for some of their learning activities. Some may wish to explore issues and problems from certain (disclosed) viewpoints - Wikiversity is a natural home for them. A Chinese wikiversity should dynamically interact with the other Chinese projects (especially Chinese wikipedia, which has the largest community) and enrich each other, as stated in the wikiversity project proposal.

Here we can find some useful statistics.

The Chinese wikiversity project has taken time to mature, and it is time it springs to life.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hillgentleman (talk) 9 Feb, 2009 08:40 (UTC)

Arguments

  1. 尽快开通,更多的人才能参与。--119.118.56.10 10:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  2. 先试一试,咱们以后看好不好。我想这回变成一个很好东西!--Adulcar 14:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
  3. Support--Ffaarr 02:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
  4. Support--pedist (talk) 06:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
  5. Support『Skjackey tse』 15:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
  6. Strongly SUPPORT. --Bcnof 15:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  7. SupportHW 08:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
  8. SupportHnusazeig 06:44, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
  9. Support--UAL55 08:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
  10. Support I think that Chinese Wikiversity is useful. Because China have many surprising contents :) --Sotiale (Talk·Contribs) 06:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  11. Support--2011wp (talk) 02:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
  12. There is currently nobody who proposes this request. GerardM 18:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
    • There is now a list elsewhere.. that suffices. GerardM 13:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
  13. Support, Wikiversity Chinese will be accepted more easily by Chinese users than Beta.--Guoyunhebrave (talk) 05:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
  14. Support--法尔汉 Aplikasi 14:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
  15. Support-- Chinese have many surprising contents .--安可對話中文維基百科用戶) 13:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
  16. Support--Huangjinghai (talk) 06:02, 29 May 2013 (UTC)无法保证会有足够活跃度--Huangjinghai (talk) 07:14, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
  17. Support--John123521 (talk) 13:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
  18. Support--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:41, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
  19. Support It's a must, according to population.--Kafkasmurat (talk) 12:06, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
  20. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support, content is ok in my view.--Stang 13:20, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  21. Support This is Taiwania Justo speaking (Reception Room) 00:33, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
  22. Support - Long overdue, regardless of activity. This year, Hindi Wikiversity was created. I really hope someday zh.WV is created. --George Ho (talk) 07:44, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
  23. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support -I'm really hope about it.--夢蝶葬花@zhwikivoyage 23:27, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
  24. Support--Jusjih (talk) 01:11, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  25. Support, im surprised this isn't a thing but I hope for this as well. --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 05:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
  26. Support --CreativeC (talk) 19:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
  27. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support -I'm really hope about it.--云间守望 - (Talk with WQL) 15:03, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Other discussion

beta上实际内容还是太少了一点,应当再观察一段时间--Shizhao 08:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

同意,但放在beta也是沒有人願意活躍的原因之一。—『Skjackey tse』 11:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
确如书生所说,内容实在有些单薄。我个人也觉得即便脱离beta,可能也不会有太大的效果。不过我也不反对就是了,不过脱离Beta时至少需要把繁简的问题一并解决了。--Demigod 11:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
基本上有人願意參與的計畫就支持,不過現在成立任何新計畫都需要一個持續活躍的beta版才可能通過,就看大家的努力了!--Ffaarr 02:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
  • 跟百科一样的问题:内容扩充不是问题,关键是人手。维基的机制出现了问题。--Loadpage 16:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
当然至少现阶段没人反对吧。--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:23, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
还有各位需要教育计划(Extension:Education Program)扩展么?感觉这跟学院的工作密切相关。--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • About the content, things like this need to be cleaned up or deleted altogether. hiàn 01:55, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Localisation update

  • Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki core messages and 63.39% of the messages of the extensions used by the WMF have been localised for zh-Hans. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. Thanks, GerardM 10:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
    • How about zh-hant? -- 202.40.137.201 05:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
      • Given that the Chinese use a conversion engine, it includes all the scripts et al they convert to. GerardM 08:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
        • Currently 99.15% core and 55.52% extension used on WMF are translated for zh-Hant. As the conversion engine does not apply on the MediaWiki messages. Shinjiman 13:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
          • MW core is already done.-Waihorace 08:40, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
            • Currently, 100.00% of MediaWiki core, 100.00% of the messages used by the Wikimedia Foundation have been localised to zh-Hans. Hydriz 15:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
              • MW core and most used MW messages has done. Also, zh-hans translation for extension is done and some messages for zh-hant is on going. Am I right?--Waihorace 04:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
  • zh-hans is verified to have finished MW core and Extensions used by Wikimedia. For zh-hant, translations are still on-going. Hydriz 13:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
    • I have done the translation for WM main extension in zh-hant. It seems to be all translation is done[3][4]. Can anyone confirm it and can it be submit to Language Committee?--Waihorace 14:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Currently Approval State in Approving. --Assoc (talk) 02:48, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
    @Assoc: [citation needed]. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)