Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Dutch

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  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Language code nl (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Dutch Language name in English
Language name Nederlands Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q7411 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Project name Wikiversity "Wikiversity" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikiversity talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Arguments in favor[edit]

Arguments against[edit]

Well, ISO code is there - so I dont see a problem why not to have Duth Wikiversity:-)--Juan de Vojnikov 20:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion[edit]

Is there any point in requesting a Dutch Wikiversity besides Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Limburgish? --Erwin(85) 15:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, but RedTribe said Limburgish is a dialect of Dutch, but you could see it from the other side too. Compare the Dutch and Limburgish words for Bible: Bijbel (Dutch) vs Biebel (Limburgish), the original source was Biblia, one point for Limburgish. --OosWesThoesBes 17:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Limburgish and Dutch are languages that are very related. It is a fact that allmost every Limburgish speakers understand Dutch, but sadly does everyone of the 30 milion Dutchspeakers understand Limburgish. The official language of the Netherlands is Dutch. Limburgish is spoken mostly in the Limburg that one of the lands that forms the Netherlands. Just like Fryslan (land) and Frysk (language). Carsrac 11:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Limburgish-Dutch=Same language. The Native American languages have nothing to do with Dutch dialects. (Red4tribe 05:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Limburgish is the same language as Dutch? I guess you don't speak Dutch either... --OosWesThoesBes 11:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nosense Limburgish and Dutch are not same languages and that is a fact. Both are official languages of the EU. The same as Native American languages, Spanish and Irish official languages are of the USA. Carsrac 11:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is nonsense. The standard language of the USA is English too, but you could hardly say the Native American languages are dialects of English. --OosWesThoesBes 05:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The standard language is Dutch. Standard Dutch. Thus saying Dutch is a dialect of Low Saxon or Limburgish is incorrect. (Red4tribe 18:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC))</[reply]

Oh, come on! This discussion is going nowhere! Limburgish, like Low Saxon are regional languages spoken in the Netherlands. The question which should be answered is: Should there be a Duch Wikiversity? JosN 13:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as said above, I believe there should be. (Red4tribe 17:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

This is not the first attempt[edit]

I have tried several times now to set-up a community for Dutch Wikiversity (Within Dutch Wikipedia and Dutch Wikibooks community), which failed equal times. There is just not enough interest or participation for this at this moment. Therefore I have tried to set-up a wikiversity within the Wikibooks-project (we also host Wikijunior there) with the idea this could be a separate project afterwards after it has grown. Alas due to lack of participation and interest I did nog fully develop this as yet, but I intend to and welcome help.

Setting up a separate Wikiversity at this time is a waste of resources for localisation and also for maintenance on the wiki, but I do welcome you to join the Dutch Wikibooks community so that we can set-up the Wikiversity within this environment and use some synergy.

For me it is still dificult to find out the difference between Wikibooks en Wikiversity. If I look to courses on EN:WV and books on EN:WB the distinction is not too big. Some books on Dutch Wikibooks have been expanded with something I think would be Wikiversity like: tests about the content: external links to educative sites about the subject, and so on.

I propose to set-up a department Wikiversity within Wikibooks and redirect to that. Pjetter 07:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well but instead, the translation of localisation would be a great job.--Juan de Vojnikov 12:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]